Hlparx

Not a provider, but in general, tipping is a US-only phenomenon so I’d venture to say it’s not the norm for massages in the UK.

I met him in November.  Feel free to PM.

7 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

I’ve come across clients who like to get a discount. I think it’s because they enjoy the feeling of getting something that others don’t, a kind of ego boost. They can tell themselves it was because they’re hot or are cleverer than the sex worker. 

I think this is correct.  I’ll also add that “discounts for hot” are a myth that certain sex workers encourage as a sales tactic.  I’ve seen ads in the past where the worker suggests that there’ll be a discount for hot, a certain body type, or hung, but given that the worker doesn’t have a listed rate, a client has no way of telling whether he’s getting a discount!

Also, given the number of guys on Rentmen I who also have Grindr or Scruff profiles for recreational use, I doubt that there’s much motivation to discount for a “hot client” when there’s ready access to whatever they consider “hot” at their fingertips.

2 hours ago, Midtownguy99 said:

Are these fees you all are quoting current (2022)? Not from 2019 or several years ago. Covid changed a lot of things. Several smoldering hot guys that I never thought would be for rent began escorting during the pandemic. The price for everything went up, as did several of the provider’s fees. From what I’ve seen $400 per hour is the norm currently. 
 

My game has changed since the pandemic and I don’t hire several different providers so often like I used to. I’m more selective and have my set guys that I will happily spoil instead of spreading myself so thin on hourly appointments with anyone that checks a box or two. 
 

I’ve seen several clients on the forums really complaining about the discrepancy between $300 and $400. Is it that serious to throw a fit or will that make not wanting to hire a provider because you solely base your experience on what you used to pay 3 or more years ago?

My guess is that if you're still paying the same amount you were paying before 2020, you're likely seeing someone you saw before 2020 and are getting a loyalty discount.  The escort I see regularly has not informed me a price increase.  It wouldn't surprise me if he's asking new clients for more.  The masseur that I see regularly has increased his price.  Same in the UK/Eurozone.  Before 2020, providers there usually asked for 150-200 currency units.  Now, almost everyone starts at 200

10 hours ago, Midtownguy99 said:

I’m curious to see what the escort you’re hiring for $200 an hour looks like. We probably have different types my friend. That’s about half or even less than what I usually pay for per hour.  Or it could just be your region but I’ve never seen someone (that I’m interested in) charge that little. 

While we often use price as a proxy for quality, that’s not always the case.  I live in a mid-sized West Coast city.  Since I started hiring in 2019, most guys that I’ve hired here ask for at least $250 with $300 being the standard.  I hired a hung, handsome, ginger muscle top in 2019 who asked for $200.  I had a fantastic time.

4 hours ago, arnemgreeves said:

Other reasons could be getting a feel for a client before booking. Or more sinister reasons like filtering out given races of people.

It's probably a regional/nationality thing too - since it seems it's common in the US but not as much in Europe.

Oddly, my experience is that I’m more likely to be asked for a picture In Europe than in the US. I’ve never actually been asked in the US. I have been asked several times in Europe.

I met him a few months ago.  He is very tall, very sweet, and very large.  Feel free to PM.

I’ve met him.  Will PM you.

44 minutes ago, tennisjock said:

Damn he is FINE

He is stunning.  Insane shape too.

On 11/22/2022 at 8:43 AM, Jarrod_Uncut said:

 

Never said he did. What I AM saying was: IF the CLIENT is/was not sure of his plans of traveling then, he should not have been reaching out to providers to book an appointment. 
 

If you’re not booking an appointment, then why are you contacting? This is not like other businesses where you get to “call around” for the best deal. You’re dealing with something very intimate and specific. Once you make that text or call, you have booked the session by default. It’s like booking an Uber: you don’t go on the app and ping drivers for availability until you’ve paid the fee and are ready to go somewhere. Not “if” whatever billion other things you have going on, work out. 

There’s a verse out there:

 

So don’t say yes I want to book, but then no I’m not booking an appointment. And this is not necessarily harping on the OP, but in general because I used to hear clients say ”but I didn’t book an appointment” all the time: 

Here’s the thing: most times it never gets that far. A provider can spend a whole minimum wage pay day worth of back and forth texting and not have any appointment time set up yet. 
 

That’s why I stopped doing all the small talk unless I know the client is ready to book a session.

I’m sorry,  but I don’t follow.

Particularly in the U.S. where the default is “Call for rates,” it’s unreasonable to say that “if you’re not booking an appointment, why are you contacting?”  There are lots of fair reasons to make contact that aren’t a guaranteed booking, including rate (where not stated), position, safety, particular limits, “are your travel plan set in stone,” availability, etc.

If a potential client contacts you and says that they would like to book an appointment at time X and you’ve already scheduled another client at that time, I assume that you wouldn’t say that you’re double-booked.  Or that if you proposed time Y to the disappointed client who was unavailable at that time, you wouldn’t say that he’d booked you for time Y.

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That’s why I stopped doing all the small talk unless I know the client is ready to book a session.

In any event, this is a tacit acknowledgment that contacting ≠ booking.

5 hours ago, builder boy said:

It’s strange I can’t see his phone contact on his ad 

I see his WhatsApp number.

Discussed here:

He has the @Hung_Cody seal of approval.

On 11/4/2022 at 11:44 AM, harlow said:

I see this thread is mainly about the price and legal differences between Europe and the US but I’m curious about differences in how providers respond to clientele of different ethnicities.  As a black American would I have an issue hiring someone?  I’m planning a trip to Europe next year and that’s something that I’ve been wondering about. 

I’ve hired in London, Paris, and Amsterdam and my ethnicity wasn’t an issue.  The men that I’ve hired have been Irish, English, French, Brazilian, Dutch, Serbian/Venezuelan, and Polish.

Happy to chat via PM if you’d like.

On 10/20/2022 at 10:50 AM, DynamicUno said:

I'd kill for lube packaging that didn't leak when flying.  I always have to put it in it's own zip lock bag so it doesn't get on anything else.

https://worldcondoms.com/products/uberlube-black-good-to-go-traveler-set-and-two-refills-15ml

3 hours ago, BonVivant said:

Excellent for the home and night stand. The best: very light but stays, doesn’t mess up sheets. Disappears when done. But Not so good for travel (cause of the packaging). 

They sell a travel version that is airport security compliant.

On 9/7/2022 at 4:41 PM, MikeLA said:

I'm going to be in Paris in early Nov.  Any recommendations for friendly and sexy guys?  Looking for someone who is good in and out of bed.  I go for a wide range of guys, but those that lean bottom or verse are best.  Thanks.

Met him a couple of times.  Very good-looking and charming.

https://app.rent.men/LeMasquiat

15 hours ago, Rudynate said:

I always tip - just not that much - usually $20.00

I’ll keep $20 in mind as an appropriate amount the next time I’m quoted “rate plus tip” for the donation.

14 hours ago, Jamie21 said:

And yes…you can usually spot an American (you usually hear them first) and then you see them. I don’t know what it is but they just don’t blend in to the background. And then you find they are extremely polite in person. I’m not used to being called Sir (unless it’s in a Dom/sub porn situation!!) but Americans seem to like using the phrase…”yes sir” when responding to requests. It’s very charming to English ears. 

In March, I was in a Paris pharmacy awaiting a Covid test to head home.  For the first 15 minutes, absolute silence.  In walks another group of Americans who take no note that no one else in the pharmacy is talking.  Another 45 minutes of hearing every detail of their trip, their connecting flights the next day, and the charms of Salt Lake City.

An English friend once told me that the English (or at least Londoners) seem to like American accents, which is funny since Americans (myself included) are over the moon for English accents.

On 7/26/2022 at 2:37 AM, Yoyotonodo said:

Is it common that clients do not tip or only when service is too bad? I had a few clients that feel very satisfied and says good things but then they do not tip and it feels so weird and confusing. I tried to provide best service and charge low base rate so when they do not tip I assume I did a bad job or is this common people just don't tip these days? 

I find the payment component awkward overall, so I usually put the provider’s fee in an envelope on my nightstand or hand him an envelope.  I usually do not include a tip because, at least in the US, part of the rationale for tipping is to supplement the wages of employees who usually are not making minimum wage.  Because the provider has set his rate, tipping isn’t on the table in my view.

As others have said, if I have a good time and we seem to mesh, I will make an effort to see the provider regularly.

That being said, I have tipped one provider (in Paris) who accepted me for an outcall, but quoted me his incall rate.  I did that because we’d had a previous meeting that had blown me away and he had volunteered to accept a lower rate than he normally charged. 

3 hours ago, ndy25 said:

@Hlparx did you end up following through? Potentially going to the UK and was also interested in his listing. Feel free to DM if you prefer, thanks.

3 hours ago, BtmBearDad said:

Same here @Hlparx - will be spending more time in London after Labor Day, so sny intel on this looker appreciated! 👍🏻

Thanks! 
BBD

I'm afraid not.  Planning on being back in London for a few days just after Labor Day myself so I may give him a look-see then.

Headed to NYC in a couple of weeks and am considering potential new friends.  This one gentleman caught my eye and I didn't see any discussion of him here.

Adamantium - Male Escort - New York City, NY | Rent.Men

Has anyone met him?  If so, any feedback would be appreciated.

23 hours ago, DrownedBoy said:

Good rundown. Thanks.

One question though. If a European escort figures out you're an American, do they try and raise their rates? Lots of businesspeople do.

And I back what John said. I'd be happy with less, but as an American, I have to get good health insurance (and still have my deductible in savings), squirrel away money so I don't retire in poverty, etc. There are no European-style social safety nets in the States, nor is there likely to be for 20 years at least.

Sometimes.  For example, with some providers who advertise on both Hunqz and RM, they will charge more if you mention that you saw their profile on RM versus Hunqz.  For example, one provider I saw in Paris a few years ago listed his RM rate at €200 and his Hunqz rate at €150.  He’s since aligned them at the RM rate. 

The rationale as I’ve heard it (from other members on the forum) is that Americans are more likely to use RM whereas Hunqz sees more European use.

6 hours ago, Daltxok said:

Has anyone met with Kurtis Wolfe recently? He’s had no new reviews on his RM page since 2020, and the most recent threads that discussed him on this site is 4 years old. I have tried reaching out to him on several occasions with no response from him. Does anyone know if he’s still seeing clients? Thanks!

https://rent.men/KurtisWolfe

If I'm reading his ad correctly, he's only seeing previous clients and his ad definitely reads "Not Available" as of today.

If you still want to give it a shot--and haven't tried it already--maybe reach out to him through RM messenger.  It looks like he's still checking that.

22 minutes ago, snogaholic said:

>> rent men account here as its not used in England. 

Rentmen is very much used in England, so not sure what that statement is about but we look forward to welcoming you back as and when ! 

In context, I took it to mean that he doesn't use Rentmen (or any other platform for that matter) in England.

On 4/10/2022 at 12:50 AM, Jamie21 said:

Ouch, that’s bad. I never had that happen but did once bruise my cock by thrusting into a guy who moved slightly so I missed his hole and pushed against the base of his spine.

It stung quite bad for a short while but we carried on (we were filming so we wanted to finish the scene). I managed to get to the end as there wasn’t long to go.

Next morning I look at my cock and it’s bruised all over, dark purple, and painful. I was out of action for about 3 weeks and couldn’t fuck for another 2 weeks. Industrial injury! 

Workers' compensation claim! 

On 4/30/2022 at 3:48 PM, Just Chuck said:

Does anyone know of an app that requires a password to open on top of end-to-end encryption?  I mean, if someone else has access to the phone,  is there an app that would require a password before someone could read the messages?

Wickr 

On 4/23/2022 at 11:57 AM, sbguy said:

Is it insulting to a provider if I don't leave them a tip?  I ask because I recently saw a provider for a two hour session (at $350/hr) and I didn't leave a tip.  After I sent them a thank you note afterwards and didn't hear back, I thought perhaps my not leaving a tip left them feeling insulted.  Thoughts?  

If a tip is given, what is a reasonable tip?  

I am asking as I don't want to ever leave a provider feeling insulted or unappreciated.  

On 4/23/2022 at 12:21 PM, Jamie21 said:

I can only speak for myself and I’m not insulted by the absence of a tip. I’m delighted to receive one of course but it’s never expected.

In fact what makes me more happy is a message afterwards from my client saying they enjoyed the session or a good review on Rentmasseur and best of all if they come back as repeat clients.

Those are the biggest indications for me that I’m doing something right, not a tip (but they’re always welcome!). 

On 4/23/2022 at 3:12 PM, Boink said:

Nah. A simple 'thank you' would have spoken a lot for his character and in this case would have hooked me as a regular customer.  The lack of response tells me he has no interest in seeing me again.

Just piping in to say that there seem to be a lot of assumptions along the way that may not be warranted.  For one, I'm not sure why "no response to a thank you message" means "insulted by the lack of a tip."  For starters, was there any discussion or hint that a tip might be desired or was expected?  You're also assuming that he's seen your message and that, even if he did, he didn't just forget to respond to it.  With one of the providers that I see regularly, I think I once saw him on a Sunday, thanked him by text for coming by, and he responded four or five days later, with a brief note that he'd just spotted the message.