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While some providers are kind and good-hearted people, a majority are not. Many are "entrepreneurs" turned on only by the easy money. Others have figured a way to scam older, often mild-mannered, sensitive, and kind but vulnerable gay old men who are often lonely.

I have learned this lesson the hard way. 

Look out for yourselves out there, guys. Without money, nobody's gonna give a shit when you are old and frail.

Also he has been "29" for several years now.

And just as i wrote my post above this happened . You thought you were smart and were incognito in the Chrome browser, but Google still tracked you!

5 hours ago, marylander1940 said:

This thread is directed at whether one day Alexa, Zuckerberg, AI, and others, will turn against us. 

They will. I am pretty sure. When Meta, Google eventually start going the route Yahoo did, and as they start scratching bottom of the barrel for new channels for revenue, and as politics of the land takes a hard right, the search phrases you enter into Google, Insta, Facebook, the sites you visited, the messages you sent, the Venmo/CashApp payments you made will all come back to haunt you. I bet Google already has an AI tool to tell who you are and what you will do next.

Not a good experience here. Was a no show after confirming an outcall. Stopped responding to texts 1 hr before the appt time. Looks like it is a handler managed profile.

Epstein basically pimped these young girls out to the rich and powerful. I wonder if he deliberately made sure they were underage, but didnt reveal that to the 'clients' so he could blackmail them.

26 minutes ago, Shoedog112 said:

Did you pay the balance off immediately, or follow the payment plan?

I followed the payment plan.

I have zero debts. I use credit cards to accumulate miles or cash back. Autopay pays off full balance every month.

My credit score went down because i had no loans. So when i purchased my last car, I financed half of it despite having the cash. Paid it off just to demonstrate to the credit agencies i am able take on a loan and pay it back. That added 5-10 points to my credit score. 

Phone call is still a good way to not leave a digital trail.

It's not foolproof, since it could be recorded by the other party and quickly transcribed automatically. 

These days you have to watch every word you transmit over a "communication device" ..since everything is recorded somewhere on some server and can be reproduced (i.e can come back to haunt you) . 

A good escort is a friend for the time he is paid. If he is not friendly, he probably wont get hired again unless the client has some sort of fetish for getting mistreated. 

It's best to not expect any emotional connection with an escort. There may be an occasional exception to this, but it's rare. I know it's hard to not fall for a hot one you just had great time with, but you have to learn it to  get the most pleasure out of your hard earned money. It took me 15-20 years of hiring to get good at my game as a regular client. 

These days sob stories are easy to ascertain for truth Just this weekend, a very friendly guy i had great times with the prior weekend, told me he would not be able see me because he was sick and didnt want to spread the germs. Well, hours later he posted an instagram story hanging out, hugging, and being handsy with a bunch of friends the same evening. Did I feel hurt? May be a little. But was I surprised? Absolutely not.

It kinda hurts when you get rejected even when you are willing to pay for getting some. 

Escorts who accept selective clientele should clearly state in their ad the type of clients they will work with.

So, the young and pretty ones have a chance on Grindr and, of course, the bars. The affluent can hire. What is the rest of the population supposed to do? Be the inCels?

I experienced a lot of attitude from him even for the most common questions we ask when hiring an escort. I passed.

But are they hot ? 

On 10/23/2023 at 2:45 AM, timj said:

The last guy pictured, Max, is a real douchebag. Rest of the guys have been very hot and very cool. This guy Max basically mugged me.

He also advertised on RM. I was planning on hiring him.as he was very responsive. But my gut feeling told me to not go ahead. It was right! Whew!

1 minute ago, Archangel said:

People value youth and vitality. Even loved ones will forget you when you no longer serve the same relational benefits as you once did.

100% . I saw, not too long ago, how relations abandoned seeing my parents as they aged. This happens even more,, when friends are all you have, which is common in the gay world.

On 12/6/2023 at 5:39 PM, Nodalguy said:

When you hit 30 as a gay man, no one gives a crap about you anymore.

Yes, in the popular gay world, after 30, you gotta pay the old age tax, one way or the other.

On 12/1/2023 at 6:25 PM, Coolwave35 said:

It’s when they tried to fuck me when I wanted friendship that problems formed

This is the crux of the issue. As an older gay man near 50, I have found myself having an ulterior motive when mentoring or helping a younger guy. 

You will find that a hot younger guy will have no problem finding a couch to crash on in WeHo while a homeless elderly woman will have to sleep on the Santa Monica blvd. 

Over the years, my personal experience has taught me that all altruistic endeavors have a hidden agenda (sex, money, power, religious evangelism, etc) behind them. 

Coming back to the subject at hand, as I age, I dont expect a younger guy to help me out of kindness of his heart. It will have to be some sort of financial arrangement, not unlike the ones I have to make today with providers for some body bliss. 

Those who get all this because of love are extraordinarily lucky and rare.

This is older gay men's perpetual fantasy. Today's younger generation is very practical and money-minded. They smartly figured being attracted to a silver daddy may mean living in a beach house in their 20s or 30s.

On 11/13/2023 at 10:27 AM, nycman said:

I shot back with "I’m talking about the hard part, like having someone to wipe my ass, not someone to count to ten at my bedside". His response?…"the only hard part is going to be keeping you from grabbing my ass while I’m wiping yours."

By the way, this part of depending on someone scares me the most. Today, hygiene with respect to this bodily function is super important to me. I can't even properly evacuate myself if i hear people outside a toilet. I find it very difficult to share a bathroom with someone. That's probably why i have never been able to have a relationship. I always wonder how boyfriends remain attractive to each other despite sharing a bathroom and potentially hear the other person 'go' in small hotel rooms.

A guy's ass and the hole are such sensual things for me and i consider it unfortunate that its other function is to handle the most disagreeable odor and substance to come out of a human body. I think the wires in my brain that are able to handle the co-existence of the two contradictory functions haven't crossed well.

I pray to god to take me before i have to get my ass wiped by a hot str8 guy.

PS: I realize this post will come across very shallow to folks who have found their soulmates. Love, affection transcends any bodily function. So i apologize in advance, but this is the only forum where I can speak my mind about these things.

2 hours ago, Pensant said:

I heartily agree. I have many younger friends. The best ones are straight. They seem more centered and reliable than my younger and, sadly, flakey gay ones.

100% . When i was a 20something gay man, i remember wanting to be only with guys around my age. Older men were invisible to me. Now the tables have turned. But judging from own attitude back then I expect to be invisible to the younger gay men.

Str8/bi guys do make for a better company and i feel less judged by them. 

The 1998 film Gods and Monsters based on James Whale's life portrayed the bond between an older gay man and his str8 muse quite well.

Your post made my eyes tear up.

I am probably 15-20 yrs away from this (most likely much less than that) and my situation is different. I have never been able to find a spouse, let alone a bf. I have an older brother, but i can not count on him or my niece or nephew in my old and frail days. I had a couple of gay best friends and my hope was they would be around to at least keep an eye on me even if I could not expect them to take care of me. But they too drifted apart during Covid stresses.

My only hope is with my retirement savings i will be able to afford some elder care or a nursing home. I am also researching into options to make it financially attractive to a younger gay man to keep me alive and well. Life insurance alone would make a caretaker want me to pass away sooner than later.

In my 50s itself i am feeling discarded enough to dread what life would be like when i am frail. I am also actively looking in to options to end my life on a high note before i reach a point where i am unable to physically take care of myself.

Meanwhile my gay 'community' at work is fighting with the corporate IT to allow the company chat system to display a person's preferred pronouns.

Unless UK's SleepyBoy is already owned by RM, it's a good opportunity for Sleepy to expand into the US market.

I am not sure why PlanetRomeo's Hunqz despite being available in the US never really picked up here. 

If the current internet trend continues, quality providers will only be available to the super rich (e.g. David Geffen) and for the rest of us, since OF won't fulfil our need for a real human, we will have no choice but to be inCels ! 😱 

I think it's already happening. 

I dont quite understand Coolwave's rape allegation. Oral play and anal play are both common acts in gay sex. So if during the same play session, the masseur performed one sexual act, it's ok, but if he performed another sexual act for which no explicit 'no' was said, it's rape?  Very confusing. 

Does this mean during consensual sex one has to get separate consent for every act? 

The fact that he is only on FriendBoy is the first clue.