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I met xdiggity twice recently, he's great, basically exactly what you'd expect from his website copy.

Let me put it this way: in other threads on this forum, several members said that he did provide both. He told me that he does not provided those services, so I'll leave this answer as consistent with what he told me, even if I know otherwise. I'd say that as another member suggests, he's clearly a case of YMMV.

I agree with this. I prefer to read something positive on here before trying someone new, but this isn't always possible, particularly when traveling. So once in a while I rely on the factors Apex listed above. Maybe I've just been really lucky, or maybe copy/messages/instinct really are enough, because it's worked out great for me so far! Some cities don't seem to have a stable base of highly-rated (and thoroughly discussed on here) providers, which is surprising...

I'd venture to say that a LARGE percentage of people here have had to not tell the truth about where they spent the last hour, 2 hours, night and weekend... I think we're dealing with a  tempest in a tea pot here and it's a FANTASY after all... it's not high treason or the ultimate betrayal ... let's remember that "nobody's perfect"
 

Met xdiggity too. Great nice guy. 

I met xdiggity twice recently, he's great, basically exactly what you'd expect from his website copy.

That's the kind of warning I'm always eager to hear.
 
But on a serious note, I do want to echo @ThroatCummer and say that you and @Jamie21 (and a couple others) are doing yourself a good service by spending time on here explaining your side of things, I am definitely adding you guys to my list based on your thoughtful and genuine responses, please keep it up!

That's the kind of warning I'm always eager to hear.
 
But on a serious note, I do want to echo @ThroatCummer and say that you and @Jamie21 (and a couple others) are doing yourself a good service by spending time on here explaining your side of things, I am definitely adding you guys to my list based on your thoughtful and genuine responses, please keep it up!

⚠️Warning: this is long.
Here are a few hot tips for finding skilled masseurs, who may (or may NOT) also happen to offer sensual, erotic, or escort services.
1) Start with referrals from people who have seen men they like and trust to deliver quality massage services. I refer my new and existing clients to other good masseurs when I can’t see them for some reason like a schedule conflict. If the masseur you’re reaching out to is unavailable, don’t be afraid to ask him for a referral. Be patient. The best guys are popular and are worth waiting for and scheduling around.
2) Leverage CoM. Gather as much info as possible on masseurs you’re interested in. When none exists, post a new thread. Ask specific questions:
Opinions i.e. Is he good? Rate his massage
Facts i.e. does he use a professional table?
A client here may hesitate on writing an opinion on the masseur’s work overall, but it’s easy to answer a yes/no question like does he use a table? Or was his space clean?
3) Read his ad. No, really. Do it. Actually read the entire ad. Does he have a business website or links to socials? Does he advertise elsewhere? Review those. So many clients view the photos and go straight to clicking the contact button, never bothering to reference the rest of the info the masseur has already provided.
4) Evaluate:
Does the masseur provide enough information to give you a good idea of what to expect? Or is it a short, cryptic blurb? More information is a good sign.
From there, glean as much as you can pertaining to the rest of these points.
5) Does he have formal training, such as a license or certification required in his home jurisdiction? Education is not everything. Plenty of bad masseurs have formal training, and plenty of good masseurs have informal or no training. In general, more of the good ones have professional training and list their documentation on their ads. Keep in mind, many gay masseurs use an alias for legitimate safety reasons, so they may not be willing to present their documentation listing their full legal name. It just depends if they work in spas or practice privately. 
6) What are his jobs? Is he a full time masseur, or is this just a side gig? Is he a porn star or a fan site content creator? How much of his time does he spend doing those vs massage? Knowing these answers gives you a general sense of his availability and priorities. Is he likely to flake on you because he is a popular performer filming a last minute shoot? Or is it reasonable for you to request a massage at 2pm on a Tuesday knowing he works 8-5 M-F? Check whatever schedule he lists on his ads and respect it.
The full time masseur guys are more likely to be good at their work. There are exceptions. For a time, I only worked my massage business on nights and weekends, but then demand overtook my schedule and it didn’t make sense for me to have two jobs anymore.
7) How much experience does he have? Years? Months? Is that full time, or part time? 5+ years of experience is a good sign. That means a guy taking two years out of high school to get certified at 20 years old will be at LEAST 25 years old by the time you see him. Younger guys can be good, but you’re more likely to get a guy who knows what he’s doing in his late 20s to early 30s and beyond. Some start their massage careers later, so it’s not purely about age. Experience matters.
8)That leads me to my next point. Stop hiring based on LOOKS. Get a list of good providers together and compare them based on SKILLS. Then once you narrow your list, you can consider looks. You can’t reasonably compare the hot muscled 22 year old shirtless guy having no experience and mixed reviews with the 50 year old out of shape guy with a shirt on, tons of experience, and a great track record. It’s apples and oranges. I completely understand the desire to have a hot (often younger) guy touching you for an hour or more, and your desire to perhaps touch him too. However, you can’t reasonably expect every hot guy to be good at massages. He knows he’s hot and he’s using that against you. Prioritize skills over looks. Consider looks AFTER you have a shortlist of skilled providers. Your body and mind will thank you.
9) Professionalism. Find what you can to indicate his level of professionalism. How does he communicate? Is he consistent and reliable? Is he reasonable? Does he get back to you promptly or within a reasonable period? Does he have boundaries and stick to them? Does he lay out his rates and services clearly? Does he use an automatic booking system like Square or Booksy? The pros use these types of systems. It also indicates he is organized.
10) Rates. Is he charging appropriate rates for your market? Exorbitant rates indicate escort services thinly veiled as ‘massage’, or scams where the masseur is hot but provides neither a skilled massage nor escort services.
11) Do you like the guy as a person? Find what you can about him online and see if you would click as human beings. Do you respect him? If he has an interview, read it. 
12) Reviews. This one is tricky. TRY to look past the vague descriptions and overexcited OPINIONS and look for FACTS. Clues in the reviews tell you how easy he is to communicate with, what equipment he uses, techniques he employs, massage styles he’s trained in, his general knowledge base, and how he delivers his services. Some clients post specific issues in their body the masseur addressed successfully, which is a good sign. The better impression you get on all these points, the more promising he is.
13) See where he advertises. MasseurFinder is no guarantee he will be professional or skilled, but chances are he will be. He may share more on one platform than another. For example, MasseurFinder uses algorithms to screen out even a hint of sexual content providers try to include. On RentMasseur, he may show a full frontal photo with an erection, indicating exactly what is on offer. This is not necessarily a red flag, but it is bad when there is nothing else in his ads to indicate he has experience offering professional massage services. Are the only photos he posts designed primarily to show off his body or suggest sex acts? Or does he present himself as someone capable of giving a quality massage?
14) Why does he do this work? Does he love it and find fulfillment in it? Does he actually care about his clients? If you know the answers form his ads, that’s promising.
15) This is controversial, but I’ll say it anyway. Try straight providers. Not “straight” providers advertising on gay sites. I mean mainstream massage therapists who see all genders. I know a great one in my office building. He drapes and stays clothed and he’s licensed. He’s married (to a woman) with kids. He’s EXCELLENT. Among the best. I don’t have any thoughts or anxieties about getting aroused or “getting my money’s worth” in terms of sexual interaction with him. He’s cute, but I know nothing is going to happen and that’s a relief in some ways because I know what to expect and I can relax and fully enjoy a high quality massage without any agenda on his end or mine. His rates are very reasonable, and his skill level is top notch.
Getting a few of these legit massages will help some of you learn how to be more objective about selecting and evaluating good masseurs advertising on gay sites. When you have had excellent work before, you know what to look for and it helps you get better at picking the good ones, and recognizing when you’ve found a gem.

Having been to both in person recently, the blond is definitely Anthony (Saxon West) but the other (brunette) is not Damiano. 

I agree with this. I prefer to read something positive on here before trying someone new, but this isn't always possible, particularly when traveling. So once in a while I rely on the factors Apex listed above. Maybe I've just been really lucky, or maybe copy/messages/instinct really are enough, because it's worked out great for me so far! Some cities don't seem to have a stable base of highly-rated (and thoroughly discussed on here) providers, which is surprising...

Agreed, and I don't usually mention those experiences here because they've never been bad so much as not great. I think this might be due to differences in expectations, for instance I prefer a proper therapeutic-only massage to a mediocre sex-pretty-much-guaranteed massage. 

I agree with this. I prefer to read something positive on here before trying someone new, but this isn't always possible, particularly when traveling. So once in a while I rely on the factors Apex listed above. Maybe I've just been really lucky, or maybe copy/messages/instinct really are enough, because it's worked out great for me so far! Some cities don't seem to have a stable base of highly-rated (and thoroughly discussed on here) providers, which is surprising...

I agree with this. I prefer to read something positive on here before trying someone new, but this isn't always possible, particularly when traveling. So once in a while I rely on the factors Apex listed above. Maybe I've just been really lucky, or maybe copy/messages/instinct really are enough, because it's worked out great for me so far! Some cities don't seem to have a stable base of highly-rated (and thoroughly discussed on here) providers, which is surprising...

@Hot4latin Haha, we did not video the session for content or anything like that. We barely took one bad photo as an afterthought. Linking these masseur ads for you below. You will find some chatter on them here on CoM, which you can continue if you wish in the Spas and Masseurs threads that mention them. Didn’t mean to distract that much from the topic here.
Peter is on the road, traveling frequently, so you will see him in different cities. He mentioned moving back to New York at the end of a months long tour. MasseurFinder banned Peter because he started a competitor site called Gay Wellness. The other guys are in San Diego. I’ve mentioned Tal Sharone before and his competitor site, Allformen, which is similar to Gay Wellness. Anyone interested in these guys feel free to PM me.
André:
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/39190/
Brant:
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/41104/
Peter:
Peter | Wellness | Phoenix
GAYWELLNESS.COM Learn about Peter , Massage in Phoenix, Arizona. Find Peter reviews and more on Gay Wellness. Newell:
MuscleGingerXL on RentMasseur
RENTMASSEUR.COM View my profile on RentMasseur.com I expect to do more group massage trades in the future with other guys, probably a larger group next time. Newell offered to host so we can set up 6-8 tables. We all enjoyed learning from one another.

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I met xdiggity twice recently, he's great, basically exactly what you'd expect from his website copy.

Let me put it this way: in other threads on this forum, several members said that he did provide both. He told me that he does not provided those services, so I'll leave this answer as consistent with what he told me, even if I know otherwise. I'd say that as another member suggests, he's clearly a case of YMMV.

I feel like this is a common theme on here, and it might be a misunderstanding of how this business works... as others have pointed out before, you don't pay an escort to show up, you pay them to leave. That is a good start to understanding why people who don't have to pay for sex might choose to pay for sex. If you talk to providers, you'll know that they occasionally even hire each other, and they're the very definition of someone who doesn't have to pay for sex.

Thanks, this is great info!

I feel like this is a common theme on here, and it might be a misunderstanding of how this business works... as others have pointed out before, you don't pay an escort to show up, you pay them to leave. That is a good start to understanding why people who don't have to pay for sex might choose to pay for sex. If you talk to providers, you'll know that they occasionally even hire each other, and they're the very definition of someone who doesn't have to pay for sex.

And when I want them to stay, I also pay.

I feel like this is a common theme on here, and it might be a misunderstanding of how this business works... as others have pointed out before, you don't pay an escort to show up, you pay them to leave. That is a good start to understanding why people who don't have to pay for sex might choose to pay for sex. If you talk to providers, you'll know that they occasionally even hire each other, and they're the very definition of someone who doesn't have to pay for sex.

The best place to research the info you are looking for is the local forum, I wrote a report about it.
Specifically, research the pinned threads in this subform: 
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There is definitely a convenience to hiring as opposed to hooking up.
This young man is clearly marketing himself to people who enjoy the convenience of escort services, not people who NEED escort services.