LaffingBear

Fall for as in love?  Nope.
But one of my earliest hires... i sorta developed daddy feelings.  He was in his mid-20s, I  was near 40.  I paid for his flights to visit me.  We arranged hybrid visits, lots of time off the clock punctuated br some hourly sessions.   As I learned about his tough times, I was building a desire to be a benefactor.   He wanted none of that.  And I learned that "we're paying for time," is a good thing, and expecting time off the clock as part of a longer package arrangement is a very bad idea.

To be thorough, I haven't hired since Covid.  I'm older, retired, and any experience i have is not current/recent.
I canceled, walked out, or had him leave my hotel room several times.  I cant recall it specifically being due to not matching pictures.
I got up, got dressed and bolted from a hotel room 15 minutes in when I saw the big sore on his dick; he told me it was a spider bite. I made it five minutes with a last minute sorta desperate hire after a few cancelations and no shows.  Muscle guy.  Acknowledged roiding.  Hugged him, my hands came away very soggy.  He was, unfortunately, experiencing horrible backne due to the roids.  Yech!  I left a small amount $, departed.   I picked a guy up in my car in San Francisco and quickly realized it was going to be trouble.  Drove around 10 minutes wondering what to do.  Pulled into parking lot, told him to get out.  He wouldn't.  Took a deep breath, got out with my keys, went to passenger door, yanked him out.  I was scared, but refused to be a victim. I broke my own rule and arranged to meet a guy at my home first visit.  He arrived.  Leather jacket & mirror sunglasses.  Ballcap.  I stupidly paid up front.  Walked around my place searching for cameras - he studied the little LED on-light on my TV, etc.  Then hesitated to undress, wouldn't remove his hat or glasses, repeatedly citing anonymity & fear of video.  I asked him to leave, he resisted.  I somehow got all of my money back except $20 or $40, and got rid of him. The one experience I can think of as I learned pics were fake, the guy was en route to my place.  I had scheduled and canceled previously, he seemed very nice.  I was so eager, I reverse-searched his online images to find more, and discovered they belonged to a male model.. even confirmed the model was in Europe at the time.  I called my appointment,  started to cancel.  He asked me to give it a try anyway, agreed to meet publicly, and he'd walk away if I was at all unsatisfied.   We met near a coffee place.  He was better looking than his pics and maybe the hottest rent guy I ever interacted with.  I hired him multiple times, did overnights, etc.  I'd still advise: fake pics, walk away.  But, ya never know......

Fall for as in love?  Nope.
But one of my earliest hires... i sorta developed daddy feelings.  He was in his mid-20s, I  was near 40.  I paid for his flights to visit me.  We arranged hybrid visits, lots of time off the clock punctuated br some hourly sessions.   As I learned about his tough times, I was building a desire to be a benefactor.   He wanted none of that.  And I learned that "we're paying for time," is a good thing, and expecting time off the clock as part of a longer package arrangement is a very bad idea.

Fall for as in love?  Nope.
But one of my earliest hires... i sorta developed daddy feelings.  He was in his mid-20s, I  was near 40.  I paid for his flights to visit me.  We arranged hybrid visits, lots of time off the clock punctuated br some hourly sessions.   As I learned about his tough times, I was building a desire to be a benefactor.   He wanted none of that.  And I learned that "we're paying for time," is a good thing, and expecting time off the clock as part of a longer package arrangement is a very bad idea.

Wow... anger managementneeds is right!
 
And... I should take responsibility for not recognizing him from an interaction 6 mos ago. Different pic.
 
Getting the name Damo on Scruff app... I checked here... then declined. He unleashed a string of hostile comments, threats, name calling. I blocked him.
10 minutes later... I get a string of four Grindr messages from a guy using the name "traveling "
Go suck a dick old fuck. Stop Wasting people time online get a life. Asshole
Now I’m Gonna report your ass
I have your pics. And your phone number
For harassing people
 
WOW! That is a Nutjob with anger issues. Made an effort to compare my Scruff profile and find me on Grindr just to continue venting his spleen.
 
And.. before some tells me not to worry... he doesn't have my phone number... and how could someone soliciting report anyone?
 
Bullet dodged.

So... I was chatting with Damo in Las Vegas on an app. I ask alot of questions in advance. I know it can frustrate rentguys... Im willing to lose out on some good ones to weed out the bad ones. I was just getting ready to type YES when Damo sent:
My profile make it clear what I do
U read it
U are Not buying a house or a car.
Normal people they make appointment
Anyway. U sound. Creepy take care dude.
 
Ill acknowledge I ask alot of detailed questions. Even understand if a guy says "never mind..." and moves on.
 
But given that he went to hostile and name-calling.... Im pretty sure I dodged a bullet.

Ya know, I generally refrain from negative comments or reactions specific to an inquiry regarding a rentguy. I dont see the point in posting "he does nothing for me,""not my type," or even a childish "eeeeeww, I can't believe anyone likes that!" etc.
 
Im going to violate my own standards.
 
I have no interest in hiring or hooking up with guys displaying tattoos depicting guns. I dont care why they got them, what they intended to convey, or their personal politics. I dont care if everything else about them makes my mouth water. Interest-killer for me.

Interesting topic.
I never initiated with an offer in my years of hiring.  And I never negotiated a stated rate for an hour or overnight, etc.  A provider sets their rate, I'm either willing to pay it, or not.  
And, I'll admit it - I had an attitude if affordability came up during discussions.  If a fee was quoted and I declined, if the provider followed up with anything like "well, if you can't afford it...."  my reply was  "I didn't say I can't afford it.  I said I'm not willing to pay that."
 

Ive had a guy finish a session with me and move into my guestroom overnight afterwards. I respected his privacy 100% after our time together. I literally didnt see him from 9pm until I showed him out at 630am.
 
Had seen him previously, and offered the guestroom previously, which he'd declined. But he got jammed up on the subsequent visit and asked to stay.
 
I think its important to expect a very broad and generous interpretation of the concept of paying for their time if considering these situations. Dont expect them to hang out, share meals, parade unclothed, etc. If they do, its at their discretion; not a lonely client trying to barter lodging for free companionship or eye candy. Once you know a guy, and demonstrate respect for the boundaries, you can have friendly time off the clock.

Interesting topic.
I never initiated with an offer in my years of hiring.  And I never negotiated a stated rate for an hour or overnight, etc.  A provider sets their rate, I'm either willing to pay it, or not.  
And, I'll admit it - I had an attitude if affordability came up during discussions.  If a fee was quoted and I declined, if the provider followed up with anything like "well, if you can't afford it...."  my reply was  "I didn't say I can't afford it.  I said I'm not willing to pay that."
 

Interesting topic.
I never initiated with an offer in my years of hiring.  And I never negotiated a stated rate for an hour or overnight, etc.  A provider sets their rate, I'm either willing to pay it, or not.  
And, I'll admit it - I had an attitude if affordability came up during discussions.  If a fee was quoted and I declined, if the provider followed up with anything like "well, if you can't afford it...."  my reply was  "I didn't say I can't afford it.  I said I'm not willing to pay that."
 

Sorta stumped by the question.
 
There are things that I'd like to live to see.
 
And there are things that, I'd like to drop dead 5 minutes before they occur.

I'm not finding reddit to be that much different than other platforms.
I should note that I'm older, close to Boomer age.  I'm still a member of Facebook, but I haven't posted since 2017.  I lurk, check every few months, because that's the only communications some folks use - it's how I'll learn if a relative or old friend died. 
I quit Twitter/X when Elon did all of the BS here in SF Bay.  I joined TikTok because I felt I should be more aware of current communications modes.  I quit - If I believed it humanly possible, I'd support banning TikTok for its potential to make people stupid.  Really - like a Surgeon General warning that repeated exposure can drop your IQ!  I was never too involved with Insta, watched a bit.  I suppose my account is linked to my Facebook- I deleted the app from all devices.
A friend recommended Reddit. I like the potential for organization and focus.  I suppose as a percentage of posts, there's less lunacy.  But there's still plenty.  I'm in no politics subs.  
Have we moved past the age of search engines entirely?   I get people are suspect regarding ads and targeted results, but people can't look up the most basic question?  But it doesn't occur to a user to look up a map?  Or search how many feet in a mile? 
For me, it's a disturbing exposure to people who seem to be unable to think for themselves.  "The water rises up near the rim when I flush my toilet.  Do you think it's clogged?"  There are plenty of Nextdoor-like "What was that noise?" posts.  
Everything is catastrophized. Or politicized.  One bad customer service experience, Amazon are crooks.  Stubhub is a 100% scam.  Paranoia runs wild.. so users are posting concerns before anything goes badly.  I posted a comment that I think Whole Foods quality and service is deteriorating, sharing specifics from recent visits; I got attacked with attitude for ever liking the elitist store.  There's passionate hate for the way people queue at the Costco gas pumps.  
There's the same BS about things like tipping, just without the angry videos of TikTok GrubHub drivers or restaurant servers.  Join a sub about your local region, and it's, "why can't people here learn not to drive slowly in the left lane?"   
I'm in the cooking sub.  The paranoia and passion over Teflon is insane.  People post pictures of a pot with ¼" scratch "is this safe to use?"  "I took my chicken out of the refrigerator and got a 15-minute phone call.  Is it still safe to eat?" 
There are some very focused subs, and some very tightly moderated subs, that can be fun and/or informative.   The rest aren't really that different than the other social media platforms.  And, candidly, it's another depressing indicator of human online behavior and impressionability.  I'm already cutting back, leaving a variety of subs.

Hey all,
I'm a long-time member and I was hoping for some recommendations for Vegas as I'll be there today through the weekend.
I'm looking for providers who are open to muscle worship. I prefer the straight athlete type (like wrestler or rugby build) who is comfortable for flexing/worship and jerking off without reciprocation. I know there have been (many) threads in the past about Vegas providers, but I think muscle worship is a specific kink that some providers just don't have the physiques for or opens the door to providers who are more limited with their comfort zone but would be ok with being worshipped.
I'm a discreet physician with relatively vanilla tastes. I appreciate any help!
Anthony
 
 

I agree, rojjodc. When women were allowed in the gaiety theater, it ruined it for a lot of men.

One of the most important things I had to learn was to differentiate between ability to afford, and determination of worth.  Thankfully, I was lucky enough to never be in a situation that I couldn't somehow find the funds.  The decision became whether it was high enough priority to spend the funds, perhaps forgo some other non-essential.   
I wholehearted agree with this statement.   I can't relate to even considering hiring if it means struggling to pay the basics.  Early on, I'd have to choose between hiring and a home improvement project or maybe a weekend getaway.   Eventually, when funds weren't an issue, I had to consider other forms of affordability. 
Afford triggers multiple interpretations for me.  I know the intent here is to have the financial means.  Something I learned about myself: I couldn't afford to make a rash decision that resulted in an unsatisfactory session.  Kudos and a bit of envy to the guys who could spend $300 on an unsatisfactory session and shrug it off!  I couldn't, and would feel like I wasted money unnecessarily.   "Damn! Now I'd really rather I'd have put new blinds in the den. What a crotch-thinking fool!" 🥴

I might be skeptical if I was told that.  I might also have some hygiene concerns, not just about the person, but a backpack, etc.  
For me, it's not a prudent disclosure for the escort.  There are, potentially, bad actors on either side of these transactions.   Homeless escort seeking some assistance sounds like a script for a TV cop show with a bad outcome for the escort.  

Sad I never made it there.  I'm actually surprised I didn't.  I knew about.  I was in NY for work frequent 2000-2004, always added a weekend midtown,  saw broadway shows.  I wasn't nervous, as an SF bay resident and fairly frequent patron of NobHill Theater and Campus Theater.
I always felt some regret that I never experienced the place.
Perhaps those places don't match current/younger folks desires.  All of the SF places closed too.  

One of the most important things I had to learn was to differentiate between ability to afford, and determination of worth.  Thankfully, I was lucky enough to never be in a situation that I couldn't somehow find the funds.  The decision became whether it was high enough priority to spend the funds, perhaps forgo some other non-essential.   
I wholehearted agree with this statement.   I can't relate to even considering hiring if it means struggling to pay the basics.  Early on, I'd have to choose between hiring and a home improvement project or maybe a weekend getaway.   Eventually, when funds weren't an issue, I had to consider other forms of affordability. 
Afford triggers multiple interpretations for me.  I know the intent here is to have the financial means.  Something I learned about myself: I couldn't afford to make a rash decision that resulted in an unsatisfactory session.  Kudos and a bit of envy to the guys who could spend $300 on an unsatisfactory session and shrug it off!  I couldn't, and would feel like I wasted money unnecessarily.   "Damn! Now I'd really rather I'd have put new blinds in the den. What a crotch-thinking fool!" 🥴

Never forget that hiring someone to spend time with is a financial privilege.
Like luxury goods, you have to have the means to partake... Or go into debt trying to look the part, I suppose.
If you live somewhere that the cost of living is higher, a higher rate is just part of doing business.
If you're lucky enough to lock in a lower rate with a longtime escort, count your blessings.

There’s no rules about what should or shouldn’t happen in an overnight or for how long it lasts. It’s whatever gets agreed between you and the client. If that includes sleeping time then why not? Some people like to wake up with a warm body next to them ready to play.
Be warned though, I snore and I dribble in my sleep. I don’t charge extra for that……..Oh and I don’t do overnights as it’s too much hassle now unless of course he’s paying lots. Everyone has a price 😂. 

Indeed, a one-stop shop for all your out-of-your-league dreams. 
Despite the so called technology 'advancements' in hooking up, the old fashioned way of just getting out, being there and having a good time beats most of my digital encounters.

Sad I never made it there.  I'm actually surprised I didn't.  I knew about.  I was in NY for work frequent 2000-2004, always added a weekend midtown,  saw broadway shows.  I wasn't nervous, as an SF bay resident and fairly frequent patron of NobHill Theater and Campus Theater.
I always felt some regret that I never experienced the place.
Perhaps those places don't match current/younger folks desires.  All of the SF places closed too.  

Sad I never made it there.  I'm actually surprised I didn't.  I knew about.  I was in NY for work frequent 2000-2004, always added a weekend midtown,  saw broadway shows.  I wasn't nervous, as an SF bay resident and fairly frequent patron of NobHill Theater and Campus Theater.
I always felt some regret that I never experienced the place.
Perhaps those places don't match current/younger folks desires.  All of the SF places closed too.  

All but one of my initial sessions with a guy were 1-hour.  Situations vary.  I'd rather have an excellent time and ask if he wants to extend - willing to risk that he can't or won't.   
What I wanted to avoid... 30 minutes in, nothing is wrong, but the X-factor is missing.  Things felt ok, but I'd have been content to end things even before the full hour.  No complaints.   But if I'd have booked 1½ or 2 hours, I wouldn't end early and short change a guy for subjective reasons.  So I'd feel a bit frustrated.