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Not yet - we live in cities quite far from each other. I'll have to wait until our paths cross.... and I am on the lookout.

Both will be pretty sparse, weekdays usually are. I don't think one is better than the other. Dancers have to put in a few weekdays to be allowed to work on the weekends, so there should be someone to turn you on. I don't think it will be worth it to get there much before 10, however. There are dancers there before, but it's usually quite dead. One of the weekday advantages is that if you have a dancer you like, and he likes you, he'll be more willing to spend time with you. He's there at work, but not having to prowl the floor. I've done this with some of mine when I visit on weekdays. I would suggest being fair to the dancer. To mean that means getting lap dances every so often so they are making money. I would take mine back for a long VIP session at the end of the night. He knew it so he knew he was going to come out well financially. I do this because this is how they make their living, and if I'm getting their time, they get my money.

Yes, I appreciate the bump, I'd love to get time with this man again if it's who's in the picture. I may take the plunge if our travels coincide.

I lurked for a while before I made my first post. A newbie posting can be someone rehashing something because they have done no searching to see if it is a topic already covered, or someone trying to stir the pot just to get a rise out of people. The rankings under the username is a great tool here. A provocative post by someone who has been around would carry more weight to me than one by someone who has just joined on. I'm not telling anyone anything they don't know, but the internet is full of people who just want to make trouble. If the others on the board don't respond there, they don't get the joy out of it.

As a client who has submitted a few reviews, I don't expect anything in return. I do it to help keep escorts in business so I can visit with them again. I have gotten verbal/text "Thank you"s, and I'm sure it means when I ask for another appointment they are more willing to see me again. But that's it. The difficult part may be in finding clients who will do reviews. Many do not, for a multitude of reasons. But I think if you offer good service you will get someone who is of a mind to review you. I would be very uncomfortable with a provider who offered something to me to do a review of them. I wouldn't be bothered by a simple ask to do a review, but I wouldn't like the offer of a kickback.

As for the shaved/short hair. My regular once explained that his short hair made it easier for him to leave from an appointment. He didn't have to worry about his hair being mussed. I don't happen to like tattoos at all, it's a full turn-off for me. But that's my preference.

I've been thinking about the logistics a bit. I've still not been back to SR since they implemented "Dick Dollars" for lap dances, but it has to be a pain. Do you get to turn them back in for the full about you gave? Or do you just get the face back? I try to be generous with my dancers, but I won't load up just to lose money to the bar. So a guy approaches me for a lapdance. I'm game so I then go to exchange, than get it? Awkward. I can see their rationale for doing it, but it's a decision driven by something other than getting money to the dancers - which is want ultimately keeps them in business. I've only ever been to 2 straight strip bars*, but they manage it somehow, so SR should be able to as well. *One with with my favorite SR dancer, I met him for dinner before and that's where he wanted to eat. And see women. He's bi/mostly straight.

Swinging Richards (Atlanta) had a problem for a while of too many women and people just in for drinks. The too many woman too the straight dancers time, and often didn't tip as well. It had gone from the occasional bacholerette party to a lot of women. The people who just wanted to drink choked up the tables since the drinks were good. The weren't interested in the dancers, so the place was a bit harder for both dancers and gay clients. Over the years, SR has made some bad decisions. Opening the Florida branch strained their experienced staff, including dancers (fewer good dancers in either place, fewer knowledgeable managers). They also fired a great DJ: he knew how to put together a range of types for the main stage, so you would get hunky, twinky, etc, basically something for everyone. The newer one(s) don't pay close attention to that detail so there are times when no one on the stage is very interesting to me. If there are 4 or 5 guys dancing, one should be. They also fired the guy who gatekept the VIP lounge. The new one wasn't as fast and didn't (still doesn't) really know how to do it, he's not able to handle the duties (taking money, watching the clock so he can signal the end of a session, and so on). I've not been there since they introduced the idea you need to buy "Dick Dollars" for lapdances, but charging $25 for $20 gives the impression of a rip-off. I know it's an attempt to keep the money recorded, but it's much easier to just pull a 20 out of my pocket than to got to someone to switch. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth. I'm at a strip club, not DisneyWorld needing to get an E ticket. I think a lot of clubs are missing that they are there for gay men to enjoy themselves. If they kept in mind how a gay man would want to go in and handle themselves, they would do better. Forgetting your audience is a bad sign for any entertainment venue, you need boots in the door before you can do anything else. Make it a hassle to get there or get a simple lap dance, and I have Pornhub (or men.com, or seancody, or whatever). The more open society is a factor as well. Even if some of that is rolling back, there are more places you can go (physically) to see a guy or meet someone. So a strip club has less pull.

The new method telemarketers use is to face a number in an exchange (the 3 digits after the area code) near yours. The idea is that you will more likely pick up for a number the next town (or block, depending) than from half way across the country. They are spoofed numbers, as there is not an account tied to them - meaning no actual cell phone, home, or business. Sadly, the Do Not Call list works more if there are other charges, and doesn't apply to calls generated out of the country. With modern technology, many of these call centers are foreign, and not where that law can impose any sanctions.

One of the things you should consider is viewer traffic. I don't know how many people watch the RM cams, Chaturbate seems the most popular now, so you're most likely to get viewers there. There are apps that let a model broadcast on at least 2 sites, maybe more. I see a lot of guys on CB and Cam4 at the same time, same stream.

I'm not an escort, but I watch a fair amount of camming. It takes time to build a following of people who tune in when you cam. Some of the most successful ones I've seen chat with their viewers, telling them about their lives, what they are thinking. These men seem to have the most stable income as far as I can tell. PM me and I'll give you some links to some successful models, I would suggest watching them to see how they do and emulate what works for you. I know this may not be your thing. I have seen some that just get on and jerk it, but but generally there are a lot of hot guys who talk, and that brings in the cash. It's (in my mind) a lot like escorting. You are there to show the client a good time, to seem to (or actually) make a connection. The viewers want that too. It's much more exciting for me when a guy talks to me or response in the chat, or even better gives me a PM.

Unless you and the escort can go like rabbits for the whole time, I suggest multiple hours with someone where there is a mutual connection. Do two hours, and if you have interests in common: movies, music, something. You'll have time to fill, and it's much easier on you, and you will get better results from him if you have something to talk about. If all you have in common is his body, time will drag. You mentioned a few ranges. If it's multiple hours (which I presume is more than 3) decide on a place to eat, a movie you would both like, or something. That's not a time range I'd ever done, but if I did, I'd have some sex, move/meal/whatever, than a bit more fooling around. If you go for an overnight, it's about the same, but you will be in bed sleeping. A lot of escorts sleep late: their business can easily run to the early hours. Prepare for that. I've done that. A bit of time in bed, dinner, a movie, more fun in bed, sleep. Messing around when we get up, and it's over. If you go longer, a weekend, for example, as @azdr0710 says, you need to give him time completely away for him to do business and "re-charge". He's only human (a hot human, but still human). He needs to keep his business going. And the reality is even close friends can't do days on end with each other. And the chances are you have had limited interaction outside of the bedroom before. I think the biggest thing in compatibility. Can you be with the man that long? The better escorts could be miserable and you would never know it - they are just that skilled. You wisely want him to have fun. Find a guy you know, you like, and will be able to honestly tell you he doesn't want to watch whatever movie you propose (if he doesn't). It will be better for both of you. If you get to do this - I hope you have a blast!

Of the escorts I've seen, none seemed to be in it in desperation - meaning that they needed to escort to pay rent/buy food. All either had other jobs and used it to supplement their income, or it was their job. Of the ones where it is their business, and best I can tell they are doing well. I've been with a few strippers who were doing it from need. One was a real estate guy at Swinging Richards during the downturn. Another was in New Orleans, adding to the income from his day job since he had a kid. For a straight boy, he did a bang up job, knowing his situation changed things a bit, and I had to admire his dedication to doing a good job.

I stumbled on this earlier today: in the video, the escort (seems to be legal in England) gets a call and the client isn't prepared to pay his rate. The escort mentions that if he doesn't have business later that evening, he'll contact that client back with a lower offer. This makes sense to me, from a business perspective. Since the escort had the idea it was just the amount, if nothing else is available, take less money and get the money in rather than having an income-less night. In that section of the report, it's a decent conversation, and inquiry as to price, the client not being willing to spend it and the two men ending there. The escort has a plan to salvage some income if he doesn't get other business. Sensible. The same would happen in other businesses. If your price is too high, you need to adjust it. I thought I'd post this video here as it directly related to the conversation.

@azdr0710 created a link to the review as well: I've been with him twice since then. And loved every single minute.

Thank you @azdr0710 , I've not figured out the way to link to reviews directly from Daddy's. I've seen Ethan twice since I wrote that review. Both were as wonderful as the first - if not more so. The difference being getting to see a man I had wanted for years the first time. And getting to see a man I had wanted for years _again_.

My favorite in New Orleans is Ethan Slade: https://rent.men/EthanSlade he's vers, but if you've seen his videos, he bottoms a lot. I wrote the review on Daddy's. I don't think you can go wrong.

I have a former provider who would travel up to my area. He would come up the evening before (to avoid traffic), we would have a session, and he would use my guest room. We had become friends, and I have no problem with him staying. He didn't care for overnights, so a session and his own room worked for both of us. When we first started discussing this arrangement, I told him I was fine with him conducting other business while he was here, but where I was happy for him to visit, I would not be comfortable with him hosting other clients in my house. Where this point was good for clarity, I don't think he ever considered even asking me to have a client over. It's not his style. The arrangement works for both of us. He heads up for a guaranteed session, avoids traffic, and can see other clients earlier than he would if he drove up in the morning. It works for me because I don't have to travel to his hotel, and I get more time with him. I take him out for dinner, so I get a bit of the "date" scenario, where I'm out with a porn star and we're having sex afterwards. This dropped his expenses and raised his income for every trip. If he picks up other clients, all the better for him. It is rare that a traveling provider can't host, but there are reasons why, as my example provides. I know what he does, but many providers will travel, visit family and/or friends and still want to pick up some business.

I've been with Ethan Slade https://rent.men/EthanSlade a few times. He's based in New Orleans and the review on Daddy's is by me. He is very skilled and quite involved in a session. He has muscled up since he first started making videos, and I think it makes him even hotter than before.

Oh, and dancer fees in the VIP room are $100 for 15 minutes flat. You can't negotiate that down.

I believe the dancer fees paid before at the gatekeeper was started (when I first went there, you paid the dancer directly, usually after) due to too many cases of the client not having an entire fee afterwards. I think one of the dancers told me that, so I could be wrong. It also emphases that it's just a normal, private session. _Technically_ I think they are dancing for you naked, but that's never what's happened with me there . That covers Swinging Richards, but you can arrange for additional services privately with the dancer. If the dancer is willing. In a room, dancers will usually be hard, and let you feel anywhere (touching it technically prohibited - especially on the main floor). Dancers may be willing to be sucked or suck you. That's not a given. Cover it with them before if it's a must for you. Some dancers are much more open to offers than others. If a dancer declines an offer, I wouldn't try to convince them, but that's just me. If you hit it off with a dancer, they may let you do more. Again, their decision. I'm glad Poseidon is still there. Such a body. I really want to be wrapped in his arms again.

I met with him some months ago, the pounds seem new since then - I can see them in the photos. I had a good time, but others have reported not so much. He is gay-for-pay, if that is a concern for you.

As much as I personally dislike haggling, since there is no widely available place to see rates, I think this is an escort trying to find what the market will bear. As @RyanDean says, if it's the only red flag, it's him working for business. In the current times, I expect it more often. Since rates aren't posted any more, if I ask a provider a rate, I'd reply back if it were too high. When rates were posted, I wouldn't even ask.

Rates are tricky in this business. I personally don't ever discuss a rate. If it's more than I'm willing to pay, I don't go on. Reading this forum, most of the comments about rates seem to deal with either clients really trying to low-ball, or escorts asking for such huge amounts as to be laughable. From an economics perspective, if you offer flexible rates, most or all perspective clients will ask for the lower one, especially if they perceive they will get the same services regardless of what they pay. Why should I pay $300 for x, y, and z, if you will do that for $200? On the client side, I feel I could get a discount rate since what I ask for in a visit isn't as demanding as a lot of clients. That's my preference, and I get what I want, so I'm happy, he's happy, we're both happy. As a provider, if you had a regular who didn't ask for as much as your standard client, would you offer him a discount if he seemed willing to pay your normal rate? Possibly, but probably not. Why would you take less than he was willing to offer? Rates in this business are set like they are in other businesses, only the providers really can't see very clearly how much what other providers charge do to increase or decrease business. For gas stations across the street, it's easy to see a one or two cent change effects business. For escorts, there are many factors. In an underserved area, locals can't charge a lot since clients would not call them. Travelers can get more (in general) but only so much more. I would doubt the Nashville market would be busy for a $500/hour escort as that's much higher than the locals. A good small market escort would be mobbed for $200/hour in New York or LA but would be missing out on making a lot of money since he could get more for the same services. I honestly feel for providers trying to set rates. Too high or too low has a direct impact on their bottom line (or just their bottom )

There are a couple of reasons a public schedule could be unwanted. Where many clients are aware that a provider could have seen a few other men that day (especially if travelling), they may not want to think about it. The online schedule shows that the last guy was there an hour ago. Some "there was another guy" often comes out with traveler (more so than locals in my experience), it's not as 'comprehensive' as seeing there have already been 6 visitors to the man you are going to see. It doesn't bother me personally. I know and don't have a problem with it, but for some clients I can see that it would break some of the mystique. There is the opposite of that as well. If the calendar shows appointments, and there aren't many, the client could wonder why. Especially for a traveler. Provider shows up tomorrow for the weekend, and has 2 appointments. Blatantly says he's not busy, subtly makes a client wonder why. Bad service perhaps? And some clients might try to talk the provider down in cost because demand doesn't seem to be there. Another is if you have a proposed repeat customer that you know isn't a good match and have decided that you will pass on any proposed visits, he can see that you are free. I do have one provider who has a website that allows you to book time, but as far as I can see, it just allows you to select a time an hour or so in the future and does not display if he actually has an engagement. His available times (which are like 18 hours a day) are all open, even if he's in a session over part of that. So it does allow some scheduling without revealing if he has another client. I don't actually like that a whole lot. Mostly because we still have to connect to schedule a time, so I've bypassed it and just contacted him directly.