Jay DC
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Jay DC got a reaction from Whoisyourdaddy in Still follow through after slight annoyance?
My employer provided me with a car and a stipend for public transportation. They thought reliable travel was better than quibbling over a 10 percent fee. And I would suggest a provider not get in a stranger’s car. The client could be drunk or high. Or a bad driver. Or like me, they may not see as well as they once did. Get the uber-gives everyone peace of mind. Consider it a tip and be glad you don’t have to drive right after ejaculating
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Jay DC got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in Still follow through after slight annoyance?
My employer provided me with a car and a stipend for public transportation. They thought reliable travel was better than quibbling over a 10 percent fee. And I would suggest a provider not get in a stranger’s car. The client could be drunk or high. Or a bad driver. Or like me, they may not see as well as they once did. Get the uber-gives everyone peace of mind. Consider it a tip and be glad you don’t have to drive right after ejaculating
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Jay DC got a reaction from mrkileen in Tipping Providers
At a charity auction I bought a “mystery” gift basket that had in it 25 Starbucks gift cards each worth $25 . In addition to a cash tip, I give everyone a gift card and I get such positive feedback. They can be used all across the country (but oddly not at most airport Starbucks). I once got a text from a provider eight months after we met saying he just found the card in the pocket of his backpack and wanted to say thanks. It was impressive that he remembered who had given him the card, and connected it to the right number.
I think it is important to tip. I tip electricians, plumbers, housekeepers, the guys who delivered my new refrigerator—basically anyone who comes to my home to provide some service for me. They are experts at things I’m no good at and that certainly is true for the providers I hire. Obviously if the service is subpar I don’t tip. I’ve been stood up by more drywallers, carpet cleaners and cable installers than I care to remember so I try to give a little extra to those who do honor their commitments. And If the person I hired to walk my dog after I had foot surgery gets a tip, then these guys deserve a tip. And because I use electronic payments I want to be sure I’ve covered any fees they incur from using e-payments so I include that in the cash tip as well.
Invest in a handful of gift cards to give with a cash tip. It’s the smallest value of the transaction but seems to be genuinely appreciated.
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Jay DC reacted to pubic_assistance in Provider Proselytizing To Clients
A refreshing change from the many people out there today, who LIVE to be offended by everything they don't agree with. Variety is the spice of life.
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Jay DC reacted to Simon Suraci in Is working as an escort very risky?
Personally, I think you’re going about this line of work for the wrong reasons.
Monetizing your sex life, for one. This phrase neatly summarizes the sentiment discussed in so many other threads on these forums. It just doesn’t work. A much larger number of men would do it if that’s all it took.
For another, your primary interest is in the income, not meeting needs you personally are well suited to fulfill. Nothing wrong taking a fair income for delivering high value services to a willing clientele; however, it takes a lot to provide m4m services effectively and be successful. More than looks, and certainly you need experience and talent either on the massage table, in the bedroom, or both. Plus marketing and business savvy, patience, emotional maturity, boundaries, people skills, and many other soft skills.
You’re going about it quite casually. This is serious work. To do it well IMHO, you need to do it for the right reasons (beyond a quick buck). This is about meeting very real human needs, not Grindr with the slight caveat of money changing hands. It takes empathy, compassion, and a selfless, service oriented mindset to do a good job. Missing these big picture items, you will likely burn out, and not succeed. Then you’re just another mediocre provider of many, the likes of which the men here pick apart mercilessly and publicly for both shallow and legitimate reasons. Then you inevitably fade into the background and quit 6-24 months after starting. Don’t be that guy.
To succeed and sustain, you need to keep on your best game and continue to grow and get better. A short sighted, half ass effort in this biz is immediately apparent to everyone, from the ads you post to the first impression you impart to every new client in person.
Lastly, I personally feel you are already in a much too vulnerable position being in the US on any visa, student or otherwise. It’s one thing being a US citizen and kicked out of your apartment lease because your landlord knows or suspects you are a masseur or sex worker. That sucks, but it’s quite another scale of consequence to be kicked out of the country for the same. I wouldn’t jeopardize your life. I need to refrain from saying anything further to expand this point, because it wouldn’t conform to the forum guidelines.
Be careful, is all. You already have an excellent opportunity studying here doing something you presumably have a long term goal to fulfill. I would hate to see something bad happen to you or to miss out on your dreams over a quick buck side hustle your heart was never truly into in the first place.
Just my take. Do what you will. If you want to do it anyway, some of the others here have already made some good points about not showing your face, not using your real name, taking steps for plausible deniability, shifting some risk onto others by tagging along on 4-hand gigs, etc.
There’s more to it than all that, for instance how to properly declare your income and pay taxes, and how to set up a business entity to do so legally. In the end, it’s not always about what you are actually doing, but what Uncle Sam discovers about his missing slice of your pie that catches up to you and ruins you, but that’s a whole other subject. My advice is don’t go there. Be safe. Enjoy the incredible opportunities you already have. I too was a dirt poor college student many moons ago. I was disciplined. I budgeted. I made it work. Money won’t always be so tight.
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Jay DC got a reaction from Nodakman in 411 on Rianw in Los Angeles
I had the chance to meet him a couple of times. I had a provider cancel an appointment we had scheduled for later that night. I texted Rian but he was booked that evening. A couple of hours later he texted me to say his appointment canceled. I explained that I don't participate in the party scene and wouldn't be comfortable with someone using in my presence. He had no issue and we set a time a few hours later. He showed up on time with no signs that he was on anything. He was clean, smelled great and was very sexy. I only booked an hour but I asked asked if I could extend his time at the same rate and he stayed another two. He was a charmer. In the hundreds of appointments I have booked over the years, I have always avoided anyone who listed PnP in their ad but this was a very positive encounter. I later saw he had mixed notes on Mr. Number but my experience was stellar.
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Jay DC got a reaction from borgerback in 411 on Rianw in Los Angeles
I had the chance to meet him a couple of times. I had a provider cancel an appointment we had scheduled for later that night. I texted Rian but he was booked that evening. A couple of hours later he texted me to say his appointment canceled. I explained that I don't participate in the party scene and wouldn't be comfortable with someone using in my presence. He had no issue and we set a time a few hours later. He showed up on time with no signs that he was on anything. He was clean, smelled great and was very sexy. I only booked an hour but I asked asked if I could extend his time at the same rate and he stayed another two. He was a charmer. In the hundreds of appointments I have booked over the years, I have always avoided anyone who listed PnP in their ad but this was a very positive encounter. I later saw he had mixed notes on Mr. Number but my experience was stellar.
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Jay DC reacted to pubic_assistance in Provided has room mates when hosting
Yes.
An escort is supposed to be joining you at the opera.
A prostitute sucks your dick.
Unfortunately most men like their dick sucked, even if they have tickets to the opera. 😉
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Jay DC got a reaction from Kik95 in Is it normal to have to Uber providers if client hosts?
I offer an Uber up front so I don’t know how many would have requested it. Parking is tricky in my condo complex. I buzz visitors in at the main gate but our security guard is located by the guest parking. The security person can ask the visitor who they are here to see and request to see ID so they can record the information in a visitor log. I then need to walk over to guest parking to give the visitor a parking pass or the visitor can get it at my front door and run back to put it in his car and walk back to my place. A car can be towed without a visible parking pass. It’s a tedious process and not every visitor wants to engage with a security person. Plus the visitor has to provide my full name and address. With Uber, a visitor is dropped at my front door-no questions asked. If you’re not parking, no security interaction. I just have to give the visitor my first name for pick up. It’s easier all around to use Uber. There is minimal public transportation in my city and none after dark. I’m retired now so discretion is no longer a top priority and using Uber makes my life easier so I should be paying for it. And I’m not sure I agree that requesting an Uber is a sign of laziness, entitlement or the decline of western civilization. If someone’s request of an Uber is so offensive, just move on rather than use energy to be indignant or calculating the number of nickels and dimes that need to be deducted especially if you read the request as a scammer or addict’s ploy to get the best of you. That energy is better used once a provider you feel comfortable with gets to your place. Most providers I hire are visiting my city and appreciate the offer. It takes a bit of a leap of faith on the provider’s part that I’ll actually get the Uber for the return trip. That said, most decline the offer of an Uber. Plus a potential Uber benefit are the stories I hear of hot Uber drivers and how spontaneous group action can occur—but my drivers seem to always be exhausted single mothers. I have noticed that since I have been making these offers, my rider rating on Uber has slipped half a point and I occasionally get charged a waiting fee. I can live with that.
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Jay DC reacted to Simon Suraci in Read between the lines. Stop with the happy ending questions
Clients are wary of being taken advantage of. They don’t want to waste their time and money on masseurs unwilling to meet their needs.
I get it, law enforcement is a real concern. Clients hiring what they want is also a real concern. US laws make for an inefficient market. There is no perfect solution.
Accept the clients you feel comfortable seeing. Decline the ones you don’t. There is no standardized way to communicate about our services, nor is there a standardized way to offer them. You can’t ask the market to conform to your preferences regarding communication up front. It’s a fool’s errand. Some clients are more forward, some less so. Good luck changing that in either direction.
Until we in the US have more sensible laws concerning sex work, we providers unfortunately must navigate the murky world of communication about sex work services, making our own calls about who we see. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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Jay DC got a reaction from ReynST in Tipping Providers
At a charity auction I bought a “mystery” gift basket that had in it 25 Starbucks gift cards each worth $25 . In addition to a cash tip, I give everyone a gift card and I get such positive feedback. They can be used all across the country (but oddly not at most airport Starbucks). I once got a text from a provider eight months after we met saying he just found the card in the pocket of his backpack and wanted to say thanks. It was impressive that he remembered who had given him the card, and connected it to the right number.
I think it is important to tip. I tip electricians, plumbers, housekeepers, the guys who delivered my new refrigerator—basically anyone who comes to my home to provide some service for me. They are experts at things I’m no good at and that certainly is true for the providers I hire. Obviously if the service is subpar I don’t tip. I’ve been stood up by more drywallers, carpet cleaners and cable installers than I care to remember so I try to give a little extra to those who do honor their commitments. And If the person I hired to walk my dog after I had foot surgery gets a tip, then these guys deserve a tip. And because I use electronic payments I want to be sure I’ve covered any fees they incur from using e-payments so I include that in the cash tip as well.
Invest in a handful of gift cards to give with a cash tip. It’s the smallest value of the transaction but seems to be genuinely appreciated.
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Jay DC got a reaction from nycplayboy in Tully
I met him several years ago but not in Vegas. He’s updated his pictures because he had younger pix. Great fun, punctual, good communication. Worth an hour. The younger version in the vid.
https://thegay.com/videos/154999/muscle-hunk-tully-fingers-his-tight-ass/
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Jay DC got a reaction from RayK in Tully
I met him several years ago but not in Vegas. He’s updated his pictures because he had younger pix. Great fun, punctual, good communication. Worth an hour. The younger version in the vid.
https://thegay.com/videos/154999/muscle-hunk-tully-fingers-his-tight-ass/
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Jay DC got a reaction from + Jamie21 in Tipping Providers
At a charity auction I bought a “mystery” gift basket that had in it 25 Starbucks gift cards each worth $25 . In addition to a cash tip, I give everyone a gift card and I get such positive feedback. They can be used all across the country (but oddly not at most airport Starbucks). I once got a text from a provider eight months after we met saying he just found the card in the pocket of his backpack and wanted to say thanks. It was impressive that he remembered who had given him the card, and connected it to the right number.
I think it is important to tip. I tip electricians, plumbers, housekeepers, the guys who delivered my new refrigerator—basically anyone who comes to my home to provide some service for me. They are experts at things I’m no good at and that certainly is true for the providers I hire. Obviously if the service is subpar I don’t tip. I’ve been stood up by more drywallers, carpet cleaners and cable installers than I care to remember so I try to give a little extra to those who do honor their commitments. And If the person I hired to walk my dog after I had foot surgery gets a tip, then these guys deserve a tip. And because I use electronic payments I want to be sure I’ve covered any fees they incur from using e-payments so I include that in the cash tip as well.
Invest in a handful of gift cards to give with a cash tip. It’s the smallest value of the transaction but seems to be genuinely appreciated.
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Jay DC got a reaction from 56harrisond in Tipping Providers
At a charity auction I bought a “mystery” gift basket that had in it 25 Starbucks gift cards each worth $25 . In addition to a cash tip, I give everyone a gift card and I get such positive feedback. They can be used all across the country (but oddly not at most airport Starbucks). I once got a text from a provider eight months after we met saying he just found the card in the pocket of his backpack and wanted to say thanks. It was impressive that he remembered who had given him the card, and connected it to the right number.
I think it is important to tip. I tip electricians, plumbers, housekeepers, the guys who delivered my new refrigerator—basically anyone who comes to my home to provide some service for me. They are experts at things I’m no good at and that certainly is true for the providers I hire. Obviously if the service is subpar I don’t tip. I’ve been stood up by more drywallers, carpet cleaners and cable installers than I care to remember so I try to give a little extra to those who do honor their commitments. And If the person I hired to walk my dog after I had foot surgery gets a tip, then these guys deserve a tip. And because I use electronic payments I want to be sure I’ve covered any fees they incur from using e-payments so I include that in the cash tip as well.
Invest in a handful of gift cards to give with a cash tip. It’s the smallest value of the transaction but seems to be genuinely appreciated.
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Jay DC got a reaction from marylander1940 in Ghosted trying to inquire about rates and services
Leave the poor boy alone. Don’t reach out to apologize. He’s got better shit to do rather than reading your texts. And what’s the end game? You want him to know you have nice manners? How much time of his do you need to consume? Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on. You both will have a little more time to plan your next adventures.
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Jay DC got a reaction from + KensingtonHomo in Ghosted trying to inquire about rates and services
Leave the poor boy alone. Don’t reach out to apologize. He’s got better shit to do rather than reading your texts. And what’s the end game? You want him to know you have nice manners? How much time of his do you need to consume? Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on. You both will have a little more time to plan your next adventures.
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Jay DC got a reaction from Njguy2 in Ghosted trying to inquire about rates and services
Leave the poor boy alone. Don’t reach out to apologize. He’s got better shit to do rather than reading your texts. And what’s the end game? You want him to know you have nice manners? How much time of his do you need to consume? Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on. You both will have a little more time to plan your next adventures.
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Jay DC got a reaction from + nycman in Ghosted trying to inquire about rates and services
Leave the poor boy alone. Don’t reach out to apologize. He’s got better shit to do rather than reading your texts. And what’s the end game? You want him to know you have nice manners? How much time of his do you need to consume? Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on. You both will have a little more time to plan your next adventures.
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Jay DC got a reaction from + azdr0710 in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from Lotus-eater in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from Saabster in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from + KensingtonHomo in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from MikeBiDude in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?