
Jay DC
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Jay DC got a reaction from Nodakman in 411 on Rianw in Los Angeles
I had the chance to meet him a couple of times. I had a provider cancel an appointment we had scheduled for later that night. I texted Rian but he was booked that evening. A couple of hours later he texted me to say his appointment canceled. I explained that I don't participate in the party scene and wouldn't be comfortable with someone using in my presence. He had no issue and we set a time a few hours later. He showed up on time with no signs that he was on anything. He was clean, smelled great and was very sexy. I only booked an hour but I asked asked if I could extend his time at the same rate and he stayed another two. He was a charmer. In the hundreds of appointments I have booked over the years, I have always avoided anyone who listed PnP in their ad but this was a very positive encounter. I later saw he had mixed notes on Mr. Number but my experience was stellar.
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Jay DC got a reaction from borgerback in 411 on Rianw in Los Angeles
I had the chance to meet him a couple of times. I had a provider cancel an appointment we had scheduled for later that night. I texted Rian but he was booked that evening. A couple of hours later he texted me to say his appointment canceled. I explained that I don't participate in the party scene and wouldn't be comfortable with someone using in my presence. He had no issue and we set a time a few hours later. He showed up on time with no signs that he was on anything. He was clean, smelled great and was very sexy. I only booked an hour but I asked asked if I could extend his time at the same rate and he stayed another two. He was a charmer. In the hundreds of appointments I have booked over the years, I have always avoided anyone who listed PnP in their ad but this was a very positive encounter. I later saw he had mixed notes on Mr. Number but my experience was stellar.
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Jay DC reacted to pubic_assistance in Provided has room mates when hosting
Yes.
An escort is supposed to be joining you at the opera.
A prostitute sucks your dick.
Unfortunately most men like their dick sucked, even if they have tickets to the opera. 😉
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Jay DC got a reaction from Kik95 in Is it normal to have to Uber providers if client hosts?
I offer an Uber up front so I don’t know how many would have requested it. Parking is tricky in my condo complex. I buzz visitors in at the main gate but our security guard is located by the guest parking. The security person can ask the visitor who they are here to see and request to see ID so they can record the information in a visitor log. I then need to walk over to guest parking to give the visitor a parking pass or the visitor can get it at my front door and run back to put it in his car and walk back to my place. A car can be towed without a visible parking pass. It’s a tedious process and not every visitor wants to engage with a security person. Plus the visitor has to provide my full name and address. With Uber, a visitor is dropped at my front door-no questions asked. If you’re not parking, no security interaction. I just have to give the visitor my first name for pick up. It’s easier all around to use Uber. There is minimal public transportation in my city and none after dark. I’m retired now so discretion is no longer a top priority and using Uber makes my life easier so I should be paying for it. And I’m not sure I agree that requesting an Uber is a sign of laziness, entitlement or the decline of western civilization. If someone’s request of an Uber is so offensive, just move on rather than use energy to be indignant or calculating the number of nickels and dimes that need to be deducted especially if you read the request as a scammer or addict’s ploy to get the best of you. That energy is better used once a provider you feel comfortable with gets to your place. Most providers I hire are visiting my city and appreciate the offer. It takes a bit of a leap of faith on the provider’s part that I’ll actually get the Uber for the return trip. That said, most decline the offer of an Uber. Plus a potential Uber benefit are the stories I hear of hot Uber drivers and how spontaneous group action can occur—but my drivers seem to always be exhausted single mothers. I have noticed that since I have been making these offers, my rider rating on Uber has slipped half a point and I occasionally get charged a waiting fee. I can live with that.
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Jay DC reacted to Simon Suraci in Read between the lines. Stop with the happy ending questions
Clients are wary of being taken advantage of. They don’t want to waste their time and money on masseurs unwilling to meet their needs.
I get it, law enforcement is a real concern. Clients hiring what they want is also a real concern. US laws make for an inefficient market. There is no perfect solution.
Accept the clients you feel comfortable seeing. Decline the ones you don’t. There is no standardized way to communicate about our services, nor is there a standardized way to offer them. You can’t ask the market to conform to your preferences regarding communication up front. It’s a fool’s errand. Some clients are more forward, some less so. Good luck changing that in either direction.
Until we in the US have more sensible laws concerning sex work, we providers unfortunately must navigate the murky world of communication about sex work services, making our own calls about who we see. It sucks, but it is what it is.
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Jay DC got a reaction from ReynST in Tipping Providers
At a charity auction I bought a “mystery” gift basket that had in it 25 Starbucks gift cards each worth $25 . In addition to a cash tip, I give everyone a gift card and I get such positive feedback. They can be used all across the country (but oddly not at most airport Starbucks). I once got a text from a provider eight months after we met saying he just found the card in the pocket of his backpack and wanted to say thanks. It was impressive that he remembered who had given him the card, and connected it to the right number.
I think it is important to tip. I tip electricians, plumbers, housekeepers, the guys who delivered my new refrigerator—basically anyone who comes to my home to provide some service for me. They are experts at things I’m no good at and that certainly is true for the providers I hire. Obviously if the service is subpar I don’t tip. I’ve been stood up by more drywallers, carpet cleaners and cable installers than I care to remember so I try to give a little extra to those who do honor their commitments. And If the person I hired to walk my dog after I had foot surgery gets a tip, then these guys deserve a tip. And because I use electronic payments I want to be sure I’ve covered any fees they incur from using e-payments so I include that in the cash tip as well.
Invest in a handful of gift cards to give with a cash tip. It’s the smallest value of the transaction but seems to be genuinely appreciated.
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Jay DC got a reaction from nycplayboy in Tully
I met him several years ago but not in Vegas. He’s updated his pictures because he had younger pix. Great fun, punctual, good communication. Worth an hour. The younger version in the vid.
https://thegay.com/videos/154999/muscle-hunk-tully-fingers-his-tight-ass/
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Jay DC got a reaction from RayK in Tully
I met him several years ago but not in Vegas. He’s updated his pictures because he had younger pix. Great fun, punctual, good communication. Worth an hour. The younger version in the vid.
https://thegay.com/videos/154999/muscle-hunk-tully-fingers-his-tight-ass/
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Jay DC got a reaction from + Jamie21 in Tipping Providers
At a charity auction I bought a “mystery” gift basket that had in it 25 Starbucks gift cards each worth $25 . In addition to a cash tip, I give everyone a gift card and I get such positive feedback. They can be used all across the country (but oddly not at most airport Starbucks). I once got a text from a provider eight months after we met saying he just found the card in the pocket of his backpack and wanted to say thanks. It was impressive that he remembered who had given him the card, and connected it to the right number.
I think it is important to tip. I tip electricians, plumbers, housekeepers, the guys who delivered my new refrigerator—basically anyone who comes to my home to provide some service for me. They are experts at things I’m no good at and that certainly is true for the providers I hire. Obviously if the service is subpar I don’t tip. I’ve been stood up by more drywallers, carpet cleaners and cable installers than I care to remember so I try to give a little extra to those who do honor their commitments. And If the person I hired to walk my dog after I had foot surgery gets a tip, then these guys deserve a tip. And because I use electronic payments I want to be sure I’ve covered any fees they incur from using e-payments so I include that in the cash tip as well.
Invest in a handful of gift cards to give with a cash tip. It’s the smallest value of the transaction but seems to be genuinely appreciated.
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Jay DC got a reaction from 56harrisond in Tipping Providers
At a charity auction I bought a “mystery” gift basket that had in it 25 Starbucks gift cards each worth $25 . In addition to a cash tip, I give everyone a gift card and I get such positive feedback. They can be used all across the country (but oddly not at most airport Starbucks). I once got a text from a provider eight months after we met saying he just found the card in the pocket of his backpack and wanted to say thanks. It was impressive that he remembered who had given him the card, and connected it to the right number.
I think it is important to tip. I tip electricians, plumbers, housekeepers, the guys who delivered my new refrigerator—basically anyone who comes to my home to provide some service for me. They are experts at things I’m no good at and that certainly is true for the providers I hire. Obviously if the service is subpar I don’t tip. I’ve been stood up by more drywallers, carpet cleaners and cable installers than I care to remember so I try to give a little extra to those who do honor their commitments. And If the person I hired to walk my dog after I had foot surgery gets a tip, then these guys deserve a tip. And because I use electronic payments I want to be sure I’ve covered any fees they incur from using e-payments so I include that in the cash tip as well.
Invest in a handful of gift cards to give with a cash tip. It’s the smallest value of the transaction but seems to be genuinely appreciated.
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Jay DC got a reaction from marylander1940 in Ghosted trying to inquire about rates and services
Leave the poor boy alone. Don’t reach out to apologize. He’s got better shit to do rather than reading your texts. And what’s the end game? You want him to know you have nice manners? How much time of his do you need to consume? Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on. You both will have a little more time to plan your next adventures.
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Jay DC got a reaction from + KensingtonHomo in Ghosted trying to inquire about rates and services
Leave the poor boy alone. Don’t reach out to apologize. He’s got better shit to do rather than reading your texts. And what’s the end game? You want him to know you have nice manners? How much time of his do you need to consume? Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on. You both will have a little more time to plan your next adventures.
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Jay DC got a reaction from Njguy2 in Ghosted trying to inquire about rates and services
Leave the poor boy alone. Don’t reach out to apologize. He’s got better shit to do rather than reading your texts. And what’s the end game? You want him to know you have nice manners? How much time of his do you need to consume? Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on. You both will have a little more time to plan your next adventures.
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Jay DC got a reaction from Vin Marco in Ghosted trying to inquire about rates and services
Leave the poor boy alone. Don’t reach out to apologize. He’s got better shit to do rather than reading your texts. And what’s the end game? You want him to know you have nice manners? How much time of his do you need to consume? Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on. You both will have a little more time to plan your next adventures.
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Jay DC got a reaction from + nycman in Ghosted trying to inquire about rates and services
Leave the poor boy alone. Don’t reach out to apologize. He’s got better shit to do rather than reading your texts. And what’s the end game? You want him to know you have nice manners? How much time of his do you need to consume? Chalk it up to a learning experience and move on. You both will have a little more time to plan your next adventures.
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Jay DC got a reaction from + azdr0710 in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from Lotus-eater in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from + Vegas_Millennial in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from Saabster in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from + KensingtonHomo in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from MikeBiDude in That Initial Impression
It was 122 degrees when I was in Palm Springs recently. When my provider left his hotel for my place he was freshly showered and thought he was good to go. His hotel was only two miles away but when he arrived, he was so sweaty and hot that he asked if he could rinse off. It wouldn’t have bothered me but it made him self conscious and he apologized. I told him not to worry and welcome to the desert. And if you’ve ridden the subway in nyc or dc in august, you might be asking for a shower too. It’s only a few minutes and if it makes someone feel a little more comfortable, what’s the harm?
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Jay DC got a reaction from + DrownedBoy in Upset by Upcharges?
I also try to be very clear about my expectations upfront, in fact I include what I'm looking for in my first message—not in a vulgar, hyper-sexulized way. But I'm very clear about what I'm looking for, where and when and I include my brief stats. All in the first message. If they respond positively, I ask their rate and I either accept it or move on—i don't haggle price and don't usually book if they come back with a lower rate—sets the wrong tone for me and I don't want them to feel they are spending time with a cheapskate. This is where I have occasionally gotten someone who says that the rate is a session rate and not an hourly fee and that sessions can last a couple of hours. I have booked that kind of appointment. I try to get everything booked in three texts or less with an additional confirmation text the afternoon of the scheduled appointment.I only top and I’ve had a few providers decline an appointment because they aren’t feeling the bottom role. I also don’t party and used to never hire anyone who had pnp in thier ad. I’ve loosened up a bit and have hired a few who do list pnp. I’m clear that I don’t and don’t want anyone using drugs or smoking around me(even though I use cialis). And I’ve had a few decline an appointment because they are doing the party thing and don’t want to chill with a buzzkill like me. I appreciate the honesty and professionalism of those who declined. In a couple of cases, a potential provider has quoted a price and then increased the quote after rereading my message (i.e., to bareback bottom is an additional cost, etc.), but these have been part of the initial conversation. Better than trying to piecemeal an appointment. I never have had someone try to upcharge during the appointment. I get yelled every time I say this but I also pay upfront—every time—especially if I am doing some form of electronic payment. I even include a modest tip that I may increase after the appointment. I'm always concerned I'm going to mess up the technology or miscount the cash and don't want to be “that client”. I've never had an issue or been cheated by paying upfront. If I ever get burned, I may change my paying upfront practice but until then it works for me and I like that it's not hanging over our heads. My point about paying upfront is that it may shut down any talk of “extra fees” or add-ons during the session. I have had providers warn me that we are getting close to our booked amount of time and ask if I would like another hour. But they should do that and I have no issue with that and if I'm having a good time, I usually stop for a minute and pay that time upfront also. If I'm not having a great time, I say “I wish I could but I can't tonight” with no further explanation. And I make sure we finish in the original time we booked. I don't usually care if the provider cums or not but if it is something I am looking for in that particular session, I spell it out in my initial message. I've never had someone ask for more $ to finish and I would decline because I usually don't care. And there have been a few times when I have requested it and they couldn't get there. It happens and I'd never ask for money back or expect a discount. In fact, one of the biggest tips I ever gave was to a gentlemen who tried and tried, he pummeled himself until he got a hand cramp-he was working with super-sized meat. I told him it was okay but he tried for a bit longer and even though he never got there, he worked hard and genuinely tried. A+ for effort. I suppose if someone bailed on the majority of my expectations, I would feel cheated and be sorry that I already paid them, but I'll cross that bridge if I ever get there. I feel I have occasionally overpaid, but I've also ended up with great times that felt like a bargain-it evens out. Most of my pals who feel cheated or massively disappointed with certain providers can often trace their disappointment to their inability to ask for what they want upfront. Just because their ad says they do “xyz” doesn't guarantee it. Confirm it up front. They may do it but aren't that night because they have a sunburn, sore back or any number of legitimate issues. And I know there are providers who overcommit and underperform, can't get hard, ask for more money, seem shifty, drugged out or just don't seem to have a good time and spoil your investment. That's part of the dance. Unless there is intentional deception, crime or violence that should be felt with, chalk it up to a learning experience. There are a lot more awesome providers than there are duds.
Another way too long post that could be summed up quickly by just saying that the client needs to be very clear upfront, agree on the rate (and don't budge) and have a good time. Even if it doesn't meet your full expectation, you got to hang out with a hot naked dude.
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Jay DC got a reaction from 56harrisond in Upset by Upcharges?
I also try to be very clear about my expectations upfront, in fact I include what I'm looking for in my first message—not in a vulgar, hyper-sexulized way. But I'm very clear about what I'm looking for, where and when and I include my brief stats. All in the first message. If they respond positively, I ask their rate and I either accept it or move on—i don't haggle price and don't usually book if they come back with a lower rate—sets the wrong tone for me and I don't want them to feel they are spending time with a cheapskate. This is where I have occasionally gotten someone who says that the rate is a session rate and not an hourly fee and that sessions can last a couple of hours. I have booked that kind of appointment. I try to get everything booked in three texts or less with an additional confirmation text the afternoon of the scheduled appointment.I only top and I’ve had a few providers decline an appointment because they aren’t feeling the bottom role. I also don’t party and used to never hire anyone who had pnp in thier ad. I’ve loosened up a bit and have hired a few who do list pnp. I’m clear that I don’t and don’t want anyone using drugs or smoking around me(even though I use cialis). And I’ve had a few decline an appointment because they are doing the party thing and don’t want to chill with a buzzkill like me. I appreciate the honesty and professionalism of those who declined. In a couple of cases, a potential provider has quoted a price and then increased the quote after rereading my message (i.e., to bareback bottom is an additional cost, etc.), but these have been part of the initial conversation. Better than trying to piecemeal an appointment. I never have had someone try to upcharge during the appointment. I get yelled every time I say this but I also pay upfront—every time—especially if I am doing some form of electronic payment. I even include a modest tip that I may increase after the appointment. I'm always concerned I'm going to mess up the technology or miscount the cash and don't want to be “that client”. I've never had an issue or been cheated by paying upfront. If I ever get burned, I may change my paying upfront practice but until then it works for me and I like that it's not hanging over our heads. My point about paying upfront is that it may shut down any talk of “extra fees” or add-ons during the session. I have had providers warn me that we are getting close to our booked amount of time and ask if I would like another hour. But they should do that and I have no issue with that and if I'm having a good time, I usually stop for a minute and pay that time upfront also. If I'm not having a great time, I say “I wish I could but I can't tonight” with no further explanation. And I make sure we finish in the original time we booked. I don't usually care if the provider cums or not but if it is something I am looking for in that particular session, I spell it out in my initial message. I've never had someone ask for more $ to finish and I would decline because I usually don't care. And there have been a few times when I have requested it and they couldn't get there. It happens and I'd never ask for money back or expect a discount. In fact, one of the biggest tips I ever gave was to a gentlemen who tried and tried, he pummeled himself until he got a hand cramp-he was working with super-sized meat. I told him it was okay but he tried for a bit longer and even though he never got there, he worked hard and genuinely tried. A+ for effort. I suppose if someone bailed on the majority of my expectations, I would feel cheated and be sorry that I already paid them, but I'll cross that bridge if I ever get there. I feel I have occasionally overpaid, but I've also ended up with great times that felt like a bargain-it evens out. Most of my pals who feel cheated or massively disappointed with certain providers can often trace their disappointment to their inability to ask for what they want upfront. Just because their ad says they do “xyz” doesn't guarantee it. Confirm it up front. They may do it but aren't that night because they have a sunburn, sore back or any number of legitimate issues. And I know there are providers who overcommit and underperform, can't get hard, ask for more money, seem shifty, drugged out or just don't seem to have a good time and spoil your investment. That's part of the dance. Unless there is intentional deception, crime or violence that should be felt with, chalk it up to a learning experience. There are a lot more awesome providers than there are duds.
Another way too long post that could be summed up quickly by just saying that the client needs to be very clear upfront, agree on the rate (and don't budge) and have a good time. Even if it doesn't meet your full expectation, you got to hang out with a hot naked dude.
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Jay DC reacted to EquisDe in TOPHUNGJOCK in Palm Springs
Btw, had a bad experience and would not recommend. PM if you want to know more.
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Jay DC got a reaction from + ThroatCummer in Is it normal to have to Uber providers if client hosts?
I offer an Uber up front so I don’t know how many would have requested it. Parking is tricky in my condo complex. I buzz visitors in at the main gate but our security guard is located by the guest parking. The security person can ask the visitor who they are here to see and request to see ID so they can record the information in a visitor log. I then need to walk over to guest parking to give the visitor a parking pass or the visitor can get it at my front door and run back to put it in his car and walk back to my place. A car can be towed without a visible parking pass. It’s a tedious process and not every visitor wants to engage with a security person. Plus the visitor has to provide my full name and address. With Uber, a visitor is dropped at my front door-no questions asked. If you’re not parking, no security interaction. I just have to give the visitor my first name for pick up. It’s easier all around to use Uber. There is minimal public transportation in my city and none after dark. I’m retired now so discretion is no longer a top priority and using Uber makes my life easier so I should be paying for it. And I’m not sure I agree that requesting an Uber is a sign of laziness, entitlement or the decline of western civilization. If someone’s request of an Uber is so offensive, just move on rather than use energy to be indignant or calculating the number of nickels and dimes that need to be deducted especially if you read the request as a scammer or addict’s ploy to get the best of you. That energy is better used once a provider you feel comfortable with gets to your place. Most providers I hire are visiting my city and appreciate the offer. It takes a bit of a leap of faith on the provider’s part that I’ll actually get the Uber for the return trip. That said, most decline the offer of an Uber. Plus a potential Uber benefit are the stories I hear of hot Uber drivers and how spontaneous group action can occur—but my drivers seem to always be exhausted single mothers. I have noticed that since I have been making these offers, my rider rating on Uber has slipped half a point and I occasionally get charged a waiting fee. I can live with that.