KennF

I find it easier to ask an escort if they have massage training if I want a mixed appointment.  Sets some expectations if what I want is more than a massage. 

Unfortunately some might hire a masseur expecting extras for the same rate, and I'm not referring to the happy ending... 
I know many escort that when asked for a massage reply: "I'm an escort, not a masseur". 

waits for COM to be served with a cease-and-desist
I kid, I kid.
Seriously... I was neither bothered nor triggered, but found the reveal of a private conversation, meant to be between two people, to be a little unnecessary.  
The whole post came across as a public attempt at a coup de grâce, but I think it might backfire with those here who value private conversations remaining private.
Perhaps I'm over-analyzing it.  
Frankly, I'd rather be over-analizing it.

Hi Gabriel. 
Thank you for the post.
The forum can attract one offs or even competitors that take a stab at drumming up issues.  It isn't exclusive to any one place.
After reading your response, I was left with more, not less, doubts about all the peeps involved. 
The original flame out was more or less dismissed.  Those kind of direct reviews, in public, from a newbie are not something I put any stock in.
The same reaction tends from the 180 degree response.  
Now your comments are understandable, but it sounded more of a gut reaction and defensive.   That isn't to say you shouldn't react.  Most of the readers here didn't say or do anything to trigger this.  When some starts with the 'I will only respond once and that's it' approach... well that's not helpful marketing.   
I accept that you RM profile reviews are genuine and sincere.  But your style here reads unapproachable. 
So, my thought...is that someone I would want to be around for an experience?   By the way, that's the purpose of my response.  To find out.

Respect for offer the money.  And respect to them for refusing.
It would be about whether I wanted to make it work next time, or write it off.
I would have felt appropriate to either (a) leave some portion for his recognition of the issue, and make an attempt re-schedule, or (b) accept that you won't see him and respect his wishes with a "Thank You."
 

I had more or less the same experience a couple of weeks ago. With an escort I had been with twice before last year. Only diffrence was that we spent the night at his apartment and he only had a double bed in his bedroom, the second bedroom set up as a massage parlour. 
It all went on so well. We played before dinner for around 3 hours then went out to a great restaurant in Montreal where the food is really good. Back to his apartment for another 3 hours of play and only fell asleep in each others arms well after midnight. 
In the morning I confess to waking him up around 630 or 7 and we had another round before going out for breakfast. He did serve me coffee in bed around 8. He was in no rush and I left to drive home around 10.
It was a bfe the way I like it and I will see him again this summer.

I just had a conversation with a prospective client over the phone today. He wants to book me for a weekend in his city a few months from now. I have family there and was already considering a work trip in his city, so I plan to coordinate around that knowing it won’t be a total loss should anything not work out, and a big plus if all does work out.
I mentioned my “sleeping habits” and not-so-great sides of myself, emphasizing my value is in my waking hours. He didn’t care. I communicated expectations for having an hour or two to myself per day for working out and taking a break. Travel costs are to be reimbursed. All good there. We covered all of his wants and needs and preferences too. All good there. He still wants to book me for the whole weekend. I think the key is being upfront and open in your communication. Phone conversations help. Sometimes clients want you for you, no matter the hassle or cost.
It’s worth taking risks, as @big-n-tallmentioned. 

Thank you. 😊
I understand your apprehension. And i agree for the most part. However, if you don't take a chance once in awhile... how would you ever know what the outcome is.
Honestly, most of the guys I've done overnights with I never met before hand (because I brought them in from out of state). I can count on one hand the ones that didn't work out. Furthermore, most of them, I hadn't even spoken to directly, but did text back and forth before physically meeting. Again the vast majority worked out great.
For the bedroom situation some of your worries can be rectified by having separate beds in the room. If you visit them at their house or (if they can afford it) book a hotel room with separate sleeping quarters. Well that is unless they request you must sleep with them.
If your prospective client doesn't live in the middle of nowhere maybe you can travel to his city and work some time before or after the overnight. So if the overnight doesn't pan out the trip wouldn't be a totally loss.
I get everything you said, but for me personally, if i didn't take a chance I would have missed out on some incredibly kind sexy people. Hell, I built such a rapport with some of these guys, that a select few are now lifelong friends. So I get it, but sometimes the risk is worth it.

Most of the providers I've hired are from other states. I usually bring them to me. Sometimes they visit the area I live in on their own accord or sometimes I visit their state. The furthest place I brought a provider in was from Argentina.
What usually happens if I'm interested in someone from another state is I contact them; introduce myself; tell them what i'm in to; ask their rates for an overnight or weekend; and give a description about myself. If they show interest, I'll give them some meet-up dates and offer to cover travel costs. If we've built a level trust that they'll tell me their real names/info I'll buy their tickets, or offer to reimburse them once they arrive. The vast majority were ok with me buying their tickets. As I mentioned in another forum topic, to me this is my idea of a guaranteed deposit of my seriousness in hiring them. Otherwise, I don't do deposits. 
Sometimes, we discuss expectations before we meet... sometimes the day we meet. Things like, do they need alone time for working out, personal business, etc. I also will sometimes discuss what interests them outside the bedroom. If they stay with me for more than overnight, having things lined up outside the bedroom (i.e. movies, plays, museums, etc.) is always good. On occasion, i've met providers who would prefer to stay in the hotel room almost the entire time together and just fuck. I'm getting old... I can't do that anymore. LOL!
In general, if we're together for extended periods, I feel I'm responsible for travel costs (if they specifically come in to see me); cost of food; and extracurricular activities. For the provider, I expect them to delivery upon whatever we agree upon before the meet up. I know they are only human. So if things don't click, I understand that.  I try my best to make the visit as enjoyable for them as possible. I don't try to plan everything... a little spontaneity is always fun.
Above all, make sure you discuss specifics and expectations before hand. If the client doesn't treat you like a human being... get the hell out of there asap. In turn, don't treat the client like a walking cash register. Well, unless that's what he's into.

In General, He'd be expected to pay for round trip air,, round trip to the hotel,nd for a reasonable predium meal.  He's booking you for the day even though he's only going to use 3-5 Hours of that time.  If you want to add Anything then that's on you and any cost changes as a result are on you.  As an aside even if hes only using a short portion of your time. He? Is. Paying for the day and if he has an opportunity to call you or make other arrangements with you. I think it's appropriate for you to be available.

True! I didn't think about that:)) I will consider or maybe send you one.   However,  clients who have been in my apartment will know it's new as I moved to LA and this apartment recently from NYC.  ❤️

Hi mate, Hope you doing well.  I said I will respond once only as reading it was stressful, and honestly, I don't want to get into a discussion on here to prove something and get into negativity as I'm always trying to avoid it. If you have any questions you can message me privet.  ❤️

If it is really oversleeping then I would not have any problem with that. However, anyone can see this is just a lame excuse to get out. Between ending of business dinner and walking back to hotel, there are plenty of time to send a simple text replying my request for update but instead he chose to be radio silence and only send a short message "I fell asleep" the next day. A bit more context, the previous 2 meetings were good but same pattern. Meeting was set in early afternoon but only happened late at night. But they did happen though, unlike this time. I also replied to him that I am not happy he stood me up as I have spent time preparing for it and was also worried if anything happened to him since we texted a lot before the day of appointment but he suddenly stopped. His one word reply "Bummer" shows lack of sympathy and at this point I decided to write him off. 

Well, when you settle out let me know where... or if you are in So FL let's see about it.
My husband used to snore and wear a face mask.  And that's why king sized and california king size beds were made

In General, He'd be expected to pay for round trip air,, round trip to the hotel,nd for a reasonable predium meal.  He's booking you for the day even though he's only going to use 3-5 Hours of that time.  If you want to add Anything then that's on you and any cost changes as a result are on you.  As an aside even if hes only using a short portion of your time. He? Is. Paying for the day and if he has an opportunity to call you or make other arrangements with you. I think it's appropriate for you to be available.

I actually have more forgiveness for the overslept part.  Less so for the not immediately apologizing and offering compensation. 
We all make mistakes and it's about what we do after the mistake happens.  It's why I wouldn't write the client off immediately but would be more guarded on the next time. And look for some way to get compensated  either in money or in clarifying the boundaries..

Hey guys! Hope everyone is doing well.   This is Gabriel,  A few of my clients sent me this link and I've decided to respond as some comments have been pretty hateful about me.   First of all, I won't get into an argument or discussion with any of you as I won't win it, You're many and I'm one. Secondly, it will make me down only and I will respond once.   My Rentmen reviews are real and trustworthy as the client only can leave one review and must verify his account. Also must be a Premium client (Paid client to RM) which means the client should provide Bank card details and pay For RM which means every review is verified by RM webmasters and Communication by RM chat must be between the client and the escort and reviews are actually from people I've met.  (Comments on this website aren't verified and anyone can write whatever they want).   Also, I'm not. fat, flabby, or uncomfortable to be around.  I know I can't be everyone's cup of tea (not the end of the world) and also we can't connect with everyone intimacy however I always try my best to provide the best energy and service I can.  Someone said I was fat, I had never been fat but I gained a few pounds in 2021 when I was going through a breakup and my only sister (30 years old) was killed and I was very depressed, I stopped taking care of myself, Body, mind, and everything. I was not even able to go home to be with my family as I didn't have a Green card yet and I wasn't allowed to leave the US. I'm not saying this to make you pity me but I was going through a lot and I even stopped doing this job in 2021 for 2 years as I couldn't do it anymore. I wasn't in a good mental state... I understand you don't care about it as you guys care about looks only and looking at us like a piece of meat but sometimes life isn't easy.  So after 2 years of Break, I decided to come back when I was ready for it and I lost those extra pounds too long ago. I've got lots of regular clients and many clients told me I look better in Person and most of my clients are happy with me.    If you're the type of guy that thinks you pay me and you own me I'm not your guy, but if you're respectful and nice you will get along with me.  If you're enjoying a nice guy, with Good energy, friendly, Clean living, The guy who can be a sweet, cuddling person, or The guy who enjoys being verbally dominant and Alpha male Then I'm your guy.     Also, I always appreciate feedback or complaints in Person or by texting me directly instead of posting here bad comments. I wonder why only negative stuff is on this website and why happy clients don't write reviews on this platform. I also don't believe they're real. or why someone would write hatefully about someone that you never met.   Guys, come and see me, don't hesitate to meet me and if you are not into me you can leave inimitable without any drama. ( I know you won't leave tho)   I've decided to take a picture today and post it here too, so you can see what I look like today. (06/16/2023) 😉😅❤️   Take care and hugs & love. xoxoxo Gabriel

Well, when you settle out let me know where... or if you are in So FL let's see about it.
My husband used to snore and wear a face mask.  And that's why king sized and california king size beds were made

This thread is catnip for newbies.

Good you could join us “TomLA” - your gushing about Gabriel has me suspicious that you are actually Gabriel.   How about asking your new friend to update his pics in his profiles - his pics are older than most of my mix tape collection. 

In General, He'd be expected to pay for round trip air,, round trip to the hotel,nd for a reasonable predium meal.  He's booking you for the day even though he's only going to use 3-5 Hours of that time.  If you want to add Anything then that's on you and any cost changes as a result are on you.  As an aside even if hes only using a short portion of your time. He? Is. Paying for the day and if he has an opportunity to call you or make other arrangements with you. I think it's appropriate for you to be available.

@KennFYou know where to find me!
I’ll haunt your dreams long after.

This is the one scenario where I’d be cool with the escort asking for a deposit on the next booking. Although, if I had been the asshole client I would have already I sent you payment for the missed appointment and apologized profusely. Shit happens but a good client knows when they fucked up and they try to make it right. Since you’ve had good experiences with him in the past, I’d give him enough wiggle room to rebound. 
However, if he acts like nothing happened and he balks at a deposit, I’d walk. He’s an asshole and you’re not going to change that. 

You offered the entire amount. It was refused. The escort sounds like the kind of old-fashioned soul who would have been offended if you "insisted" he take some. It's fine.
I would recommend trying to hire him again, though, as anyone willing to refund for that is worthy of a second chance.

Wow, he sounds like a very thoughtful and considerate person. I would have compensated him for the hour, but maybe try hiring him again in the future to see if things go better? I feel like a lot of escorts would have demanded the full payment even if they didn't deliver so kudos to him for not doing so.