Madman

I've booked masseurs who advertise on MF, Rent Masseur, and/or Rent Men. My experience is the guys exclusively on Rent men are least skilled on massage and most apt to be more escorty.  MF guys tend to be more likely to be skilled but there are guys who used to be on MF who've moved to Rent masseur who are just as trained/licensed/skilled but got annoyed by MF's rates and rules so are exclusively on Rent masseur. I will say the rate of masseurs I've booked on MF who have delivered more than a strictly therapeutic massage is just about on par as the rate of guys I've booked from Rent masseur (and the ones that didn't offer more have generally left the business or moved to massagefinder (which seems to be the less gay version of masseurfinder :-)).   I think the main difference I've seen between MF and RM is the guys on MF tend to leave most of their clothes on for the actual massage portion while RM guys are more apt to get naked for the massage but even then I've booked MF guys who are stark naked before I get my shoes off!😉 As others have said it ultimately comes down to chemistry.

I've booked masseurs who advertise on MF, Rent Masseur, and/or Rent Men. My experience is the guys exclusively on Rent men are least skilled on massage and most apt to be more escorty.  MF guys tend to be more likely to be skilled but there are guys who used to be on MF who've moved to Rent masseur who are just as trained/licensed/skilled but got annoyed by MF's rates and rules so are exclusively on Rent masseur. I will say the rate of masseurs I've booked on MF who have delivered more than a strictly therapeutic massage is just about on par as the rate of guys I've booked from Rent masseur (and the ones that didn't offer more have generally left the business or moved to massagefinder (which seems to be the less gay version of masseurfinder :-)).   I think the main difference I've seen between MF and RM is the guys on MF tend to leave most of their clothes on for the actual massage portion while RM guys are more apt to get naked for the massage but even then I've booked MF guys who are stark naked before I get my shoes off!😉 As others have said it ultimately comes down to chemistry.

Those are my favorite finds. True gems. I don't shop for HE anymore, not for at least 8 years, but I sure love getting massaged by a naked man. I just love being naked with another guy.
@Madman  Your analysis sounds keen to me. I had forgotten about the massage guys who advertise on RentMen. Always assumed they had no license. I don't visit that site looking for massage.

I've booked masseurs who advertise on MF, Rent Masseur, and/or Rent Men. My experience is the guys exclusively on Rent men are least skilled on massage and most apt to be more escorty.  MF guys tend to be more likely to be skilled but there are guys who used to be on MF who've moved to Rent masseur who are just as trained/licensed/skilled but got annoyed by MF's rates and rules so are exclusively on Rent masseur. I will say the rate of masseurs I've booked on MF who have delivered more than a strictly therapeutic massage is just about on par as the rate of guys I've booked from Rent masseur (and the ones that didn't offer more have generally left the business or moved to massagefinder (which seems to be the less gay version of masseurfinder :-)).   I think the main difference I've seen between MF and RM is the guys on MF tend to leave most of their clothes on for the actual massage portion while RM guys are more apt to get naked for the massage but even then I've booked MF guys who are stark naked before I get my shoes off!😉 As others have said it ultimately comes down to chemistry.

I've booked masseurs who advertise on MF, Rent Masseur, and/or Rent Men. My experience is the guys exclusively on Rent men are least skilled on massage and most apt to be more escorty.  MF guys tend to be more likely to be skilled but there are guys who used to be on MF who've moved to Rent masseur who are just as trained/licensed/skilled but got annoyed by MF's rates and rules so are exclusively on Rent masseur. I will say the rate of masseurs I've booked on MF who have delivered more than a strictly therapeutic massage is just about on par as the rate of guys I've booked from Rent masseur (and the ones that didn't offer more have generally left the business or moved to massagefinder (which seems to be the less gay version of masseurfinder :-)).   I think the main difference I've seen between MF and RM is the guys on MF tend to leave most of their clothes on for the actual massage portion while RM guys are more apt to get naked for the massage but even then I've booked MF guys who are stark naked before I get my shoes off!😉 As others have said it ultimately comes down to chemistry.

Ugh--had a similar encounter with him a couple of years ago. I was planning a trip to NYC and was trying to figure out who I wanted to reach out to in order to book some sessions with. I looked at his private pics on Rentmasseur (I'd signed up for a premium membership in the lead up to the trip) and he messaged me and then when I didn't reply quickly enough for him after reading his message, he angrily messaged me (dude, a lot of time somebody has time to look at message without being able to reply right away). And he messaged me several times until I just blocked him. I might have booked him but not after the garbage attitude. For the same trip I was messaged by a couple of other guys in NYC after looking at their pages/pictures and they were very pleasant (I ended up booking one of them and if I'd had more time would have booked the other but had already booked my quota).

I saw him this summer.  Mediocre massage, which ended in about 40 minutes, instead of an hour. He was distant throughout and made no real effort to engage personally. At the end, he tried to extort more money from me than we had agreed to, because massage was on my massage table rather than a bed.  Definitely the worse experience I've had with a new provider in years. 

Wi Spa is NOT a hookup place. They regularly check the sleeping room & saunas for anyone fooling around and will confront and escort you out if they find you. Ive seen it many times. Sleeping room has cameras too. They will ban you for life and ive witnessed them calling the police on guys.

It’s mixed clientele too, so you have to mindful of the fact that there’s lots of straight people just wanting to enjoy the spa.  
That being said, the sauna is completely naked and if you are lucky you might see some of LA’s hottest naked bodies. It can be Hit or miss, but Sundays, weekend evenings, rainy/cold days and work holidays are usually packed with a lot of eye candy. New Years is always slammed too. Just endless cock & muscle bods right in front of your face haha

Spa Palace in Westlake, just west of dtn la , Century Spa in Koreatown.... 
To a more discreet degree, Descanso Spa in Tujunga. 
I understand Joy Sauna in Hacienda Heights is also rather playful. 

Yeah Wi is good for eye candy (lots of straight guys the with their girlfriend/wife) but the times I've been there (both pre and post pandemic) it wasn't really a place to play (there are other K Spas in LA with more of a bathhouse rep).

He is pushy and rude. Don't click on his profile as he will hound you and call you names for not booking something with him immediately.\

My impression is that it's been a rough time getting things back up and running after the extreme Covid panic in NYC..so I doubt you missed much. Attendance was still way down, with a lot of wait-and-see attitude in NYC about another wave of Covid. I get their email blasts, and I would say just now the RSVPs are finally picking up

Like 4 or 5 years ago I went to a couple events through Daddy Retreat including one run by the Bate Coach. As others have said he's like in his 30s (definitely younger than Aaron aka Dominus Eros), lean, reasonably hung.  I think I actually liked the bate-focused event the Bate Coach ran better than the massage focused one Dominus Eros ran.  As others implied, the focus and the crowd of attendees will go a long ways in determining how much you enjoy the session. I was in NYC a couple times last year but didn't attend anything at Daddy Retreat since the events I could have attended didn't appeal to me enough. 

I went about a year and a half ago to the Sunday afternoon one. While there were definitely guys of all ages there were a surprising number of pretty well hung, good looking guys in their 20s. There were like 50-60 guys at the peak often in groups of 3 or more. And I'd say most of the guys try to hold off on coming as long as possible but things definitely wound down after about 90 minutes. Not something I'd do on a regular basis but it was interesting.

An excellent masseur on the Upper West Side of NY (104th &  Broadway) is Peter.  He's trained, certified, takes contuing ed courses (which I think is required for maintaining one's license), and can be as playful as you would like him to be -- or strictly legit massage; your choice.  He has a table in his apartment, and will also do the massage on a bed.
Reasonably priced, and a very sweet guy.   I've been seeing him for years.
 
https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/2262/

I really like Aleks a lot!

Max is great.  Now have to watch for Aleks to visit.

Not anybody new but I have had positive experiences in the last 6 months with both the previously mentioned Aleks (https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/12512/) and Max (https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/13046/).

sorry but this man has some problems
i looked at his ad and i got crazy and angry messages from him and keeps wanting me to call him even after he scares me away
be careful with him

Oh yeah, I had to block him on RentMasseur - he hounded me with messages after I looked at his profile twice. 

I am trying to be respectful and delicate here, but
Let's just say I was aggress hounded in a  very unwelcomed way 

For Chicago
Should fit the bill, gives a great Thai massage 
 
https://rentmasseur.com/JohnThai

Any recent experience with him? Seems like he's been around awhile so either was 20 at the time of the first thread or is a bit past 31. How accurate/current are the photos? Feel free to PM me.

He's been on MF for a number of years. There are a couple threads about him:
I've seen him. He's a bit of a flake. Feel free to pm if you want more info. 

I'm not sure why you think the previous response wasn't serious.  How is anyone supposed to know what spa your question is about unless they know more about you than is immediately apparent?  I even searched for "Korean Spa" in quotation marks to see if there was a sole spa with that name somewhere in the world and came up with only local (to me) Asian massage parlors.  Surely you must understand that not giving a location in your title or first post is going to result in most, if not all, of us not knowing what spa you are asking about.