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You're right @Tarte Gogo that rate is way above usual rates. Perhaps he was asked for "something special" or perhaps he doesn't like to work often? Certainly I find 'roided guys unappealing so Billy Essex does nothing for me. A man would have to be movie-star handsome for me to consider that rate.

Perhaps he's too busy counting all the $20 bills to actually do anything?

How wonderful. I think it's a marvellous public recognition of how much you mean to this younger man. Congratulations!

Thanks @marylander1940 , I've not seen this pic of Ben Godfre before. He was a stunning physical specimen back then.

Don't get too excited @Avalon It is a gay group, just as there was - until very recently - a similar dining club at Cambridge https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/cambridge-university-peterhouse-adonian-society-14509287 Despite the over-heated comments by some who never attended, the formal dinners were largely companionable where young gay students could meet each other...and in some cases, meet young academics.

"I seriously though(t) twice about starting this t(h)read and it's obvious to me that I made a mistake." @Epigonos I respectfully disagree. I find the thread and what others have posted very interesting. As a European, I always cringe when in the US I hear American parents over-praising their small children for routine effort and accomplishment. I've often wondered how the children would perform in school. Luckily this American habit has not (yet) been widely adopted by Europeans and private schools still demand discipline and hard effort from their pupils.

Why on earth would anyone want to buy Paddy OB dinner before getting horizontal? Somehow I doubt he's going to prove a wonderful conversationalist or an insightful intellectual... Personally I don't rate him so I just cannot imagine paying to see him masticate

William Higgins has described the activity and the price on their website. As I recall, a willing (if not necessarily photogenic) volunteer dons a balaclava before going in front of the camera and lending a helping hand to, and possibly kissing the lips of, the athletic young man who’s erect and being filmed.

@Deadlift1 I described the 2 gyms where I have membership as “smart” because each markets itself as high-end, has luxurious facilities and an expensive annual membership fee. Neither gym offers daily passes except to members wanting to bring a friend, and those are limited in number...tho strangely I‘ve never been refused when I request a guest pass for a visiting handsome male model.

Yes, I had that happen too. Sending a message costs nothing so I feel some guys think it’s worth doing anyway, just in case.... In a similar vein (of “well, you never know...”) I always respond politely even if they are out of range. As it happens, I also always responded politely if the guys were promising and local but said they were unsure about gay sex. I had several encounters where such guys turned out to be nice young men who on a first date didn’t hesitate to get naked and suck me off without spilling a drop.

Don’t take this amiss @Chad Constantine. With all the questions you’ve raised, I really feel you should take your thread into the locker-rooms, changing rooms and showers of gyms in the real world. Perhaps you could tell gym-managers that you’ve been retained by underwear companies to survey what hot gay men, who are always fashion-forward, are actually wearing to the gym. I would be happy to help you draft an in-depth questionnaire.

“Commute” to and from where? Buenos Aires is a huge city but the good areas are easily covered by any of the numerous radio-taxis All the hotels and the telos (hourly rental places) are gay-friendly IME (as the law prohibits discrimination). The major hotels will of course have security but that is for your protection - and it’s important - for instance, checking the ID of any visitors to your room.

It’d be interesting to hear back from @iveryhotijake He was supposed to be there a few months back and was looking for suitable companions

+1

I’ve often seen guys changing out of jocks and into the usual high-end brands (Armani, Zegna, D&G, Boss). They seem to be cotton mainly but some have a cotton/Lycra mix.

I’m fascinated by some of the replies to the OP. I belong to 2 smart gyms where the membership has a large number of fit young gay men. I can assure you that guys pay considerable attention to what they wear to work out, and in the changing rooms they often notice what designer underwear guys have.

@Brutus I’m stunned that you would be so crass. No, you NEVER ask “if he escorts”! You have to be respectful. The essence of this thread is that these young men are often available. They do not, however, consider themselves as escorts nor do they advertise. If you’re just looking for an hour of wham-bang quick sex, these guys are not for you. The aim is to form a relationship with a handsome, muscled young man. If you are an older man, you have to use your natural advantages of experience, worldliness and financial capacity. Of course to a handsome muscled young man of 18-23, an older man can be aged 35. I’m much older than that and was 50 when I started meeting models etc. I have the ability to talk to people easily, to make them laugh and to focus all my attention on them. In short, I always courted a young man and seduced him into my bed. Luckily, in many cases it didn’t require a lot of effort. I mentioned earlier that I’d always invite an attractive young guy to dinner in a good restaurant. I also stated how you have to be aware that these guys may work as models, trainers etc but their financial situation is generally precarious. I always preferred to have an introduction to a guy from a mutual contact, but if that wasn’t possible I’d use a direct (but respectful) approach. FWIW to a guy I was chatting to in person, I used to smile and say ‘ You’re interesting. I’d like to get to know you better. How about I take you for a coffee (or a drink, or lunch, or dinner)?’ Just suggest whatever seems appropriate for the time/place, eg if at the gym after a work-out, I’d offer to buy them a meal. Be friendly and don’t get upset if he refuses; just smile and say ‘I hope to see you around. Maybe next time we can chat more’ And in the past, I’ve met a few guys off IG. I send a polite message, saying their posts have impressed me and I would enjoy meeting them. I suggest that I take them out for drinks to get acquainted. Bear in mind that most handsome, muscled young men (working as models, trainers etc) have been hit on before by older men (and women). They are not going to be surprised or shocked by you but you must display some finesse and discretion. Most of these guys do not want their friends to know how they manage to finance their lifestyle.

I agree strongly with what [uSER=19303]@europeanman[/uSER] has written. Male models earn very little and their incomes are very variable. Yet apartment rental, gym memberships, phone bills, good nutrition and travel costs are all recurring expenses that can be considerable. As young men, they often have a taste for fashionable clothes and expensive gadgets. So it pays for an older man to be generous and open-handed. I always used to start by inviting a guy to dinner and buying cocktails and a bottle of expensive wine. If the evening proceeded well, the model came home with me and stayed for breakfast. It was extremely rare for me to have to explain “compatibility”to a young man - whether a fitness or fashion model, personal trainer or aspiring actor, a handsome young man generally understood that he had to meet my needs first if I was to be expected to meet his.

Sorry you were scammed @Cody22

Don't be faint-hearted. Enjoy the times you will spend together and have fun in his company. It may develop to be more than you currently imagine.

I so agree. I still recall the old advertising slogan in the US: Fly First Class or Your Heirs Will.

I agree with @tassojunior . I speak Castilian quite well and I understand and speak some Catalan, yet I find that Barcelona taxi-drivers at the airport routinely try to rip me off. If you don't have much luggage, I recommend the Airport Bus which is cheap and has an express service from the terminals to Plaza España (first stop). That's a short walk to Thermas as it happens. In Venice, I take the water-bus routinely but I would always have a private water-taxi from/to the airport. It's simply a lovely way to travel to your preferred hotel (assuming it has a private landing).

I agree with @Benjamin_Nicholas. FWIW I have booked several round-the-world trips (involving flights to many cities) online. I found the multi-city booking and search options on the oneworld alliance of 15 different airlines to be the best https://www.oneworld.com/ but Google Flights is a very close second. And as it happens, I find the detailed planning of complex trips to be quite an enjoyable part of the vacation.

This pic of 3 Brazilian models brought back memories, both happy and sad. Happy that I played with 2 of the guys pictured. Sad that the guy in white/red swimsuit was brutally stabbed to death in his apartment about a year later.

If the question is directed at me @goosh69 Certainly Not! We have had a full physical and throughly enjoyable relationship starting with our first date. I'm with @MikeBiDude on this. To guys I wasn't attracted to, I tended to say "I don't feel we're really compatible. I'm sure you will find someone who's better for you than me, so Good Luck in the future".