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To answer the question posed in the thread title: Not for me. I much prefer a masseur to have wonderfully soft hands… especially when he’s goodlooking with a muscled body…. our bodies are closely entwined as he’s kissing me deeply…. and his soft hands are gripping my cock… but that’s just my definition of a good masseur 😎 For the record, I do get a therapeutic massage regularly.

I can comment as James bottomed for me on two separate dates. I remember our dates well. He was in great shape - perhaps a little lean, a little less muscled than is my ideal (as I have a fetish for muscleboys who bottom). He was intelligent; he clearly recalled our prior conversation where I mentioned all that I enjoy as a ‘dominant but lazy, selfish top’. As the bottom, he complemented me very well. The foreplay was passionate with lots of kissing with tongue; I explored his body thoroughly and he reciprocated readily; I topped him (with condom) in different positions. We finished with him sucking me off to completion and swallowing my load. Post orgasm, he was in no hurry to leave and we relaxed in bed chatting. My only caution is that my experience with him was more than 10 years ago. If I hadn’t met my partner soon afterwards, I would have dated James on a regular basis.

I’d like to feel that I’d consider all the circumstances (eg teenage indiscretion, taking part in civil protest or other misdemeanor)…but I fear my instinctive reaction would be to say NO immediately. I’m not proud of this, but I feel it adds a layer of risk to engaging with a stranger. It seems to me that visiting a stranger at his place or inviting him into your own and spending time together is hazard enough. Most times, things will go swimmingly…but you don’t want to be that rare unfortunate incident.

Not in my experience but I’m a top only. I’ve been able to get a few boyfriends to cum hands-free. As others have stated, it depends on intimacy. The key for me has been targeting their erogenous zones (one man loved prolonged, delicate teasing of his nipples while I pounded his ass) or discovering some hidden desire (one muscleboy loved being tied up, used and spanked). Another man, also a muscleboy, came hands-free every time as soon as my load hit the back of his throat. Of course, I told him that was nothing as I’m able to come ‘hands-free’ each time that a handsome young man has my cock in his mouth and lovingly sucks me to completion. 😎

This reminds me of a role-play for which I hired an escort in San Francisco. Years back, I was in danger of developing a crush on a young investment banker at the firm where I was a partner. I was out but at that time, single and horny. Obviously the different status and power imbalance made it impossible to take matters further. He was one of the people who worked with me, but I got to know him as he worked out in the gym early morning when I did. He wasn’t my usual ‘type’ as he was short, 26 but a jock with a good body. He was str8 but just very gay-friendly and puppyish in his enthusiasms. Because of work, we had dinner together a few times. So I hired the SF guy to act as him and to allow me to unleash my desires. He was great: he opened his apartment door, clad only in tight white briefs, and invited me in for a drink while I stayed fully clothed. After kissing and nuzzling, he knelt and unzipped me, starting to fellate me. When I told him I wanted to top him, he took me into his bedroom. After undressing me slowly, he talked dirty - telling me how much he wanted me to use him and his hole - and got on all-fours on his bed, We had an energetic time and he drained me fully. After mutual orgasms, we talked. He told me how much he enjoyed acting as a jock wanting to please an older man; I told him how truly great it had been for me. To my surprise, it was also very therapeutic: it was as if I had released all my lust for the young colleague: I really got him out of my system.

Guys have often remarked on how naturally dominant I am. This intrigued me and it led me to explore that dynamic. When I was feeling horny, I’d enjoy exercising my dominance over muscleboy-bottoms with a submissive streak. I’d have them work hard to please me before topping them vigorously…and their “reward” for pleasing me was always to finish by sucking me off and swallowing my load. I was lucky enough to find 2 very different men - 1 Latin, 1 Blond but both with superb bodies - who truly had a submissive nature and craved a guy who’d ‘take charge’. I saw each man regularly for some years, but I made a mistake in having both overnight for a 3way. It was lacklustre compared to the hot sessions I had individually. It seemed that each man was concerned about seeming ‘masculine’ to the other; each was reluctant to reveal that side of his nature to another muscleboy. It was interesting that each guy was happy to take a hard pounding in various positions while the other relaxed by kissing me and watching me top. But when it came to taking my load in front of the other, it was clear that each saw this as the ultimate form of slutty submission.

Don't you just hate it when bad things happen to good vocabulary, decent punctuation and coherent arguments? 😎

I find that statement odd. Exactly how often do you see each other? And how much time in total have the two of you spent together? What’s the longest period of time you’ve been together? Do not get married without first signing a watertight prenuptial agreement that expert lawyers have prepared.

I’ve always preferred men aged from the early 20s to 40. The triggers for my lust are a handsome face and a fit muscled body. My first boyfriend was aged 24 when I was 20. When I was in my 30s, I dated some younger men and some late 30s/early 40s…but even then, I found some older men had an unattractive quality (being inflexible and set in their ways). When I became single at 50, I was surprised how often younger men came onto me. I was gym-fit and lean but I never bothered to analyze why they were interested. It might have been my confident character (direct and open about what I want) or my intellect. Or it could just have been my big, thick wallet and my willingness to open it. It was then that I found 23 to be a ‘sweet spot’. At that age, guys were in great shape, had some skills in bed and were willing to experiment further in pleasing a top. I met a muscleboy when he was aged 33 and we were boyfriends for some years. When I was 60, I met a highly intelligent 21 year old - he came onto me - and we’ve now been together for over 10 years.

I’d love to see one of those who complain here take this dispute to Judge Judy. I wonder how she’d rule on non-performance, and what remedy she’d impose 😎

Just asking for information please. Being retired, I’m no longer up to date with research/statistics. I do recall that some years ago, there were reports of a number of people for whom the treatment was NOT effective. Is that no longer the case? (For the record, I always use condoms. I have a much younger partner and I want to make sure he stays healthy.)

I remember him from some years back. He’s used several different names online. From what I heard from a couple of guys (aka hearsay as I’ve not met him myself), he’s a perfectly good companion if you want/need eye-candy for a social outing. That applies equally in private if you enjoy servicing him. My guess is that, if you want to be serviced or want more from him, you’d have to be direct and clear as well as very generous.

It’s a bar. I’d say it’s definitely busier after dinner. But really you can go any time - it’s a pleasant crowd. IMO the shower show is over-rated. It serves as a decorative background to having a drink and talking to people. I’m not sure about times as they seem to happen in the evenings; I’ve seen them before dinner (say 6.30-7pm) and later (8-10pm).

I don’t understand why you describe this person as an “old friend”. I’d say at best he’s a ‘former friend’. And from what you say here, I wouldn’t expend anymore time or energy on him.

Thanks for starting this thread. I’ll be very interested to see who gets recommended to you for your client. I can’t be of any help myself as I’ve always found San Diego very “hit-and-miss”. I had a lot of fun there over the years. I met some nice men with good bodies…but I noticed early on that they were either transient (visitors and amateurs or students in their early 20s seeking support) or local, mostly defining as str8. Some local guys, aged 25-37, were very handsome and offered service in exchange for support…but required total discretion and didn’t advertise.

I appreciate your post @WilliamM but surely you recognise the concerns it will raise. So tell us… Is he on a gay vacation or a str8 vacation? Or does the vacation encompass both possibilities? 😎

I don’t feel that you need to apologize at all. You said that it’s “many years” since you and he last spoke, and it’s “12-15 years” since you last saw him. And back then, he was quite homophobic. You are not obliged to be supportive or offer help to someone you knew years ago but who has ignored you since then. I would feel very differently about this if he had written or phoned you to apologize for his past conduct/speech towards you. Especially if he had said he’d like to make amends, and possibly renew your friendship, by first taking you out to dinner to apologize in person.

I think that’s because no-one wants to see them lose their license. Recommendations should suffice; reading ‘between the lines’ isn’t that hard.

No disrespect intended @viewing ownly but aren’t you overthinking this? I certainly prefer “no drama” in my life. If I meet someone who seems to thrive on drama/gossip, I politely exit the encounter. When it comes to providers, I treat what they say online with caution. To me, their profiles are simply marketing. I trust my own judgement.

I’ve certainly done this in the past, and generally I had a lot of fun. My strong advice is to plan this well in advance. It takes a fair amount of organization. It is not a cheap event. I feel it’s important that you have first played one-on-one with each of the guys you intend to invite to your group. If there’s one guy you play best with, I suggest you check with him how compatible the others might be. (He may well have played with some of your guys already). It sounds obvious but depending on your desires, you need a mix of tops, bottoms and versatile guys. You should also be VERY specific about what you enjoy and what you expect to happen in a group scenario (eg I’m a top only so I spelled out to the guys that I would top each one separately before there was group interaction; I also stipulated that I wanted to see each guy climax at least once in a multi-hour session). Also spell out any rules you might have (eg no drugs in your place, no barebacking, use of safe-words) in advance. Do not be tempted to think it will all work spontaneously. Think how hard it is for one guy to read your mind or sense what you want, then multiply by 3 or 4 to encompass all the possibilities that a group session offers.

Forgive me for stating the rather obvious remedy, which I suspect you know already. Never have debt on your credit card(s). It’s a very expensive form of debt. It’s always best to pay off your balance(s) in full each month. And to answer your original question, I suspect it means that many of us will have a lower income from our savings.

Welcome back @Gar1eth It’s always good to read your posts. I have a reasonable range of toiletries, including cologne. I have 3 particular scents and choose 1 to ‘wear’ before before going out. I feel you’re not gay because you wrote “rarely, if ever, cologne but haven't used any in awhile. I never used it consistently even when I was young. And I always hated the way the aroma would stay in my nose for hours.” You obviously haven’t been advised by a nice muscled young man on how to use cologne. There are 2 different ways. When you’re naked and fresh from the shower: either you can spray it into the air close to your body and walk into it or you can apply it directly, spraying your pecs and near your neck. You NEVER spray it into your nose - it’s not a decongestant. 😎

I’m glad to hear you had a great time @Lucky May I ask you please to post a short report of your vacation. I’m particularly interested in what good hotels and restaurants in Rio you’d recommend as well as which saunas and men you found so welcoming

I really enjoyed ‘Rebel Ridge’ very much. It’s an all-too-credible thriller set in a small US town.

This brought up a memory. Years back, I was a volunteer at a sexual health charity and one time, I was hosting a discussion between 6 young male sex workers They shared details of various encounters with male clients. One spoke of a man (married to a woman) who was muscled and in good shape. He liked to fuck a young man from behind. While he was pumping vigorously, he insisted the young man turn his head to look at him and say “I love you” as he came to climax. That made the others chuckle. It turned out that the married man had sex at numerous times with each of them. And every time he required the young man to state “I love you”.