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I’m certain that you’re confusing me with someone else @marylander1940. When I hired years ago, I never insisted that I be “their only client that day”. Nor did I insist that they “MUST cum”. I was certainly clear with escorts about what I prefer and enjoy to do (eg I’m a top only, I really enjoy being sucked to completion etc). Equally I always mentioned that I enjoy lots of deep kissing and that if they will bottom for me, I find it very hot if they climax while I’m pumping them. Importantly, I ALWAYS emphasized to an escort - and indeed to anyone I met online - that I wanted us to have a great time together, so we had to be compatible and my desires/wishes were a menu, not a checklist!

I wonder if you are deliberately missing the point here @marylander1940 ? I agree with @The_Impeccable_G that Seeking is not a site to use to find an instant hookup or hire. I feel that many young men on Seeking are enthusiastic amateurs. They are sexually fluid or versatile, and they see an older man as interesting because he can look after them. They are interested in a classic “mutually beneficial arrangement”. I feel they would regard as crass and vulgar any older man saying I will pay you for sex. I do understand that some posters will regard any unconventional relationship as entailing “paying for sex”. Of course, an attractive young man wanting an expensive gift may please his partner in bed either to provide an incentive for purchase or to say Thank you…just as a wife may please her older husband in bed, hoping for a similar outcome. I don’t feel you can reduce the complexities of a relationship to a simple transaction. I always had a clear photo and true stats on my online profiles. Over the years, I met a few young men who genuinely prefer an older man, but on Seeking I found there were many who responded well to me. The ones I liked were nice young men with nice fit bodies; they were generally well-educated and well-mannered. Building friendships with them took time, but it was an enjoyable experience.

A triumph @samhexum. As the sun divides nicely by 3, why not hire 3 young men to look after you? Then you can regard the employment of each of the 3 guys as being partly Government-subsidised...

It’s subjective, of course, but my personal view is that a muscleboy looks best in classic white briefs or jockstrap. From time to time, I also like to see a fit young man wear solid colored briefs. I strongly dislike seeing muscleboys wear baggy underwear (like boxers) or thin strappy underwear (like thongs). The brands I like are Emporio Armani, 2(X)ist, Pump, Versace and C-in-2. Any briefs or jockstraps from these would be good. Obviously the mainstream brands do a good job but I think @orville that you should choose what you find sexy and arousing. I feel sure that your guy will appreciate that you value him and want him to look great.

I would not buy him clothes @orville. You do not really know his taste and size. And you are denying yourself some considerable pleasures, for I agree with @The_Impeccable_G. IMO you need a 3step program. 1. Dating a handsome young jock, I’d buy him some good briefs and jockstraps. I’d have him model them for me. That was always an arousing start to a date. I’d ask him which brand/colour he preferred and how he liked the fit. 2. For another date, I’d typically get him a large range of the briefs/jocks he liked. 3. On a later date, I’d take him shopping for clothes. Especially on a trip together, a shopping spree in NYC or London can be a lot of fun with a young companion. (I still recall a hot Australian muscleboy sucking me off in a department store changing-room as a quick “thank-you”)

I don’t understand @kko123. From what you have written above, you’re experienced in approaching guys on IG. So why were you asking in posts #1519 and #1520 on how to do this? The topic has been raised before in other threads (re economics of modeling and how to approach handsome guys online). My advice is to be very polite, assure them you will be discreet and generous, invite them for drinks and dinner, and then follow through on your assurances.

Thanks for starting this thread @Karl-G. I’ve been very surprised at how differently the well established, and often heavily subsidized, concert halls and opera houses have responded to the problems caused by the pandemic. In the UK, I agree that Wigmore Hall has done well (as it should as it receives large State funding and an extra grant in the pandemic) while the Royal Opera House has done barely nothing (despite very heavy State subsidy and an extra large grant for the pandemic). Glyndebourne Opera in contrast has zero State funding but has announced a somewhat reduced season in 2021 with 50% capacity to keep social distancing (even tho the UK vaccination effort is proceeding remarkably quickly).

Reading this thread, I don’t understand @jeezopete how you came to the conclusion about visiting Argentina… Argentina is an interesting country and society with rather different (old-fashioned) cultural norms. It has great food (if you enjoy eating steak), a marvelous coastline (but no fish in restaurants) and in normal times, an excellent nightlife. Argentine men can be very handsome but unreliable (chronic lateness is a problem). If you are going to Latin America for men, you may prefer Brazil. It’s easier to hookup there. As a handsome young Argentine friend put it to me, in Buenos Aires you can meet a guy in a club or bar and spend hours talking, only to go home alone; while in Rio or SP, you meet a guy, say I like you and he says Let’s go to bed.

@Monarchy79 you only have to add to your list ”what do you drive?” ”do you own or lease it?” and you’d have the typical initial conversational exchange in LA

To answer the OP: Is he your son? To which I always answer (with a smile) No he’s my husband And I watch them closely to see how they handle the information

Not until my late 40s. I‘m a serial monogamist with very little interest in dick. My boyfriends were always bottoms and to me, it seemed ironic that they had big dicks. When a LTR broke down in my late 40s, I started dating much more widely and I started getting appreciative remarks on my dick. I hadn’t realised that it is a good size (thickness and length) until I had a passionate date with a young man in San Francisco. He enthused so much and told me the curve when erect (inwards towards my belly) of my dick made it “a bottom’s dream”.

I’m glad you can laugh at yourself @Justin7402. Why not - next time you’re asked for money before any service - tell the guy you need to have an immediate date tho you’ve no money, but you just need to see how good his service is? I guarantee he won’t deliver, he won’t “cave”, and you’ll see the folly of your behavior.

That’s definitely a BIG boy in the shirt @jjkrkwood

All this excellent advice puts me in mind of the English proverb (which dates back to the late 16th century): “A fool and his money are soon parted.”

Online, on the phone or physically @zeyfur? And how was it for you?

I hope everyone gets to see the new Russell T Davies story about gay London in the 1980s, “It’s A Sin”. It streams in the US today on HBO Max. I watched it with my younger partner and had to explain some things to him, but we both loved it. I found the dialogue strange at times but it was very compelling. The acting is of a high order, and especially in the last episode it is strikingly truthful. FWIW I’d recommend not bingeing on it; we watched an episode each evening.

I’m intrigued that we haven’t heard more from @Smurof. I feel @nycman gave excellent, pithy advice overall and @Luv2play gave helpful advice on the familial aspects. My advice to @Smurof is on two fronts: 1. NEVER take legal action (whether in civil or criminal cases). You are likely to incur costly legal fees in taking advice and from what you’ve stated, it seems unlikely you will get the retribution you seek. 2. Reach out to those family members you care about and simply state that you want to renew ties of affection etc. If they don’t respond, MOVE ON. We can’t change the character of family members or friends, but we can change how we live our own lives.

Well said @rvwnsd. I’d add that the climate is generally benign and SD makes for a better Winter vacation break than Key West nowadays. There’s still gay life in SD: I’ve had interesting encounters in La Jolla and at Black’s Beach. There are still nice young men who are happy to meet nice older men. It’s just not what it once was.

We saw the film a while back. It was streaming but I can’t recall if it was on Netflix or Amazon Prime. We both found the film dull and overlong. It should have been edited much better. And @BSR is correct. Moffie is used to refer to effeminate gay men, but I’ve also heard it used in Cape Town by young gay men in an affectionate, reclaiming way to refer to each other.

This is a really interesting thread. I lived in San Diego in 1979 and 1980. Back then, I was young and single so I had a very sociable time. I recall how many attractive young men came through San Diego; often they were transients or temporarily in SD. There were several popular gay bars and dance-clubs. There was even a gay bar outside the main gates to a military base where I picked up (or he picked up me) a very nice young Marine and I’ve fond memories of the long weekend we spent together. In the last several years, I’ve been back in the Winter to stay in La Jolla. My feeling accords with others above in that the most attractive guys are either visiting or based in LA and they have to be offered at least an overnight in SD to make their travel worthwhile. I’ve met enthusiastic, visiting Australians there and also 2 different local guys who presented as str8 but surprised me by being obliging.

Well observed @jjkrkwood. And you used a pic of a very nice Brazilian guy I knew years ago: Arthur Sales (a fashion model who retired to become a pop star…and is now trying to get modeling work again).

Forgive the correction @sync but if you were to meet him, he might be very upset with you. Dan is a former rugby (not soccer) player (and he briefly played rugby professionally). He also qualified as a personal trainer and he lives in northern England. He‘s a ‘star’ on Instagram. I know he’s modeled underwear and been photographed as a physique/fitness model, but I’m not aware of any work as a mainstream model. He‘s one of those guys that intrigues me. I wonder how he manages to finance his life as curated by him online.

I’m a lazy selfish top with a dominant streak. I adore receiving oral, especially from a talented cocksucker who brings me to completion and swallows my load. Some might say I’m versatile as I’ve sucked 4 different cocks in my life. But it was only when I was in bed with a very hot muscleboy-bottom and feeling philanthropic. More than a few times, bottom-guys have told me they found it very hot that I so obviously enjoy being serviced AND do not reciprocate.

I agree with your reaction @Wolfer. French Kissing is hugely enjoyable. It’s a very important part of foreplay for me. I can only imagine that couple getting hired if someone has a strong voyeuristic streak or likes to choreograph the action in a threesome.

I love the coverage of the New York Post. I’m also very fond of Slovak muscleboys. Over the years, I’ve dated several Slovak guys aged 21-30 who had ripped muscled bodies. All of them had a submissive streak and were devoted cocksuckers and eager bottoms.