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I assume you’ve already spent some considerable social time and enjoyed meals together @Rocca ? If not, I’d urge you to do so. A week together on a lovely island is not the time and place to discover that you and your companion don’t share some interests and that congenial conversation is not easy at mealtimes.

Wonderful idea @Rocca. I say Go for it, provided you can afford the costly trip. A week in Maui with an obliging masseur sounds terrific. But as others have said, you must be explicit and detailed about what you are offering to him. FWIW I once took a swimming coach away with me, not to Maui but to an equally lovely longhaul destination. The coach was fit, mid 20s and had a very good body. I had a real crush on him so I took him out for coffee or lunch after lessons 2x a week. After a few weeks, we were showering together after the lesson when he suggested I would enjoy using the sauna (he serviced me orally and I gave him a handjob). That became an enjoyable routine. When I thought about going away for some Winter sun, I asked him out for dinner to discuss my idea. Luckily I had thought out all the details (as previously I’d hired fit young men for trips). I told him I’d pay for the flights and the hotel as well as all the meals and drinks, and I said I’d want a lesson each day before breakfast and again probably late afternoon. I emphasised we’d have breakfast together and then he’d be free for most of the day until we had the 2nd lesson and dinner together. He was interested and asked questions. I was a bit surprised at his questions. He didn’t mention money. He did ask if he’d have his own room. I said No, we‘d share a room. And added that the hotel beds are king sized. He asked me if I was gay and I said I was. He then asked about sex. And I said I enjoyed getting oral to completion, and I liked seeing him come…and I was totally OK if that was all he wanted to do. (I’d met some of his friends and they all seemed very fit and str8). I did spell out that I enjoyed having sex every night. He agreed there and then. But I followed up with a phone call the next day to confirm the dates etc. Again he didn’t ask about money. He did say he was a little worried that he didn’t have the right clothes for a 5* hotel. So I took him shopping which was good fun. I then raised the question of money. He asked if I was really going to pay for everything and when I confirmed that, he said I won’t need $$$ as it’s totally free. Overall, we had a really great time on the trip. He was excited on the flight out and he seemed relaxed at the hotel (where they knew I was gay and obviously saw him as my young man). He did spend almost all the time with me. He worked out in the gym every day but wanted to come with me on excursions and hikes. He initiated sex the first night and told me we could try more than the usual stuff. During the week, I got him to bottom 2x for me but I had the feeling he really wasn’t into it, so I told him full oral was just fine for me. During our last breakfast, I told him I’d had a good time with him. He countered that it had been his best vacation ever, and he’d had an amazing time with me. I raised the topic of money but he commented he hadn’t been able to spend any and “we had the best food” all week. I knew his income was small and erratic, so when we got back to the room to pack, I insisted on giving him $1000. He refused the $$$ but was so grateful when I insisted, that we had good sex to end the vacation on a high.

I‘d say he’s confident and justifiably vain

Yes @The_Impeccable_G but without giving anything away to identify the young man To put it in context, I should mention I have one Golden Rule about first dates. It‘s my view that everyone presents the best version of himself on a first date. So if the man is rude or insulting (especially to the wait staff) or behaves badly or something seems not quite right/feels ‘off’ or if there’s some discrepancy with what I was told earlier, there is no second date. That’s s my Golden Rule. He was working full-time and living in London. He was my type: early 20s, university-educated, decent looks, athletic body; very compatible with my being a top only; and he was keen to meet an older man. I suggested drinks but he countered with dinner so we could get to know each other better. Alarm-bell 1: He asked where I was taking him to dinner. He approved my choice of a fashionable restaurant and I booked at the time he stipulated. Alarm-bell 2: I arrived 5 minutes early but he was already there. He told me he’d expected me to be there to greet him; I smiled and gently pointed out I was early. He countered with he’d been waiting for 10 minutes. Alarm-bell 3: I suggested a glass of wine. He said No, let’s have a bottle. Alarm-bell 4: He was dismissive to the nice waiter…and a little later, snapped at him. Alarm-bell 5: He happened to spill some wine on his shirt. When I suggested he dab some water on the stain, he snapped at me You think I don’t know how to do laundry?! Apparently it was a new shirt he’d bought to impress me. Alarm-bell 6: I was thinking how to smooth over his upset, when he said What? So now you’re not talking to me just because I raised my voice to you? Alarm-bell 7: I’d been making pleasant conversation and asking him about his job, his interests, his likes and dislikes etc. I made a mental note that he had not asked me anything. Then he abruptly remarked on the new iPhone. He said he wanted the one in rose-gold. I murmured Isn’t that expensive? He replied Not for you. Luckily, then our first courses arrived

@cany10011 I could not disagree more! The guys I met from SA were amateurs (not pros) and interested in finding some financial support. Some of the guys like spending time with older men. It helps if you’re a good listener and prepared to be generous. I feel that’s perfectly reasonable @fedssocr1 For my part, I would move things along to a dinner date quickly if I was interested in a guy. Often there was mutual interest and he stayed for breakfast. Excellent advice @The_Impeccable_G I feel Seeking is great but you have to be patient and enjoyed the ‘dating game’. I certainly had some great times with guys I met from Seeking, but I also had some frustrating times. I even had one bad dinner-date that was so bad that I refer to it as the gold standard of bad dates. Even now, it makes me chuckle to remember how, as we parted, he asked me when we were going to meet next.

I thought the movie was a terrific black comedy. It was highly entertaining. It had an excellent review in the Financial Times which said it was surprisingly easy in the US for an old person to be committed and find their financial matters organized for them.

While the 2 tops in the back of the boat are thinking about who will loosen up Pietro first and who gets to fuck him second, Pietro just has to wait...

To me @Trick it suggests that the escort normally speaks Spanish and thinks that the word translates literally. The Spanish equivalent means “ready (or eager) to please”

I loved the comment of one viewer: “Porn would be more dignified than this!” Personally I wish Nick would just come out of the closet and put that cock and body to good use. That physique was surely built for man-on-man action.

Imagine @bigjoey a 36year old man (with only an inherited fortune of $40-50 million) has his annual allowance of $3.5 million from his Dad cut off after 12 months’ notice…and the American public won’t help him & Meghan out? I hadn’t realized Americans were so savvy

It was an aside. I included the details as shorthand for them both (separately) leading middle-class professional lives, keeping fit with access to private healthcare, and working online from home. I was so surprised by what the first friend told me that I phoned the second friend and he confirmed the details of the crisis there.

Good response from @Jamie21. I feel it’s OK to ask, but @samsmithson1972 how can you rely on the answers? You have to protect your own health. If you’re planning to hire at this time, it may be better to simply ask what precautions the guy is taking to protect his health and yours.

I don’t disagree with what others have written about places in the US, Europe and Latin America…but I wonder what places will be attractive AND open for visitors later this year or in 2022 due to the pandemic. I’m finding it very difficult to plan foreign trips at all. I can live with the possible tests and quarantine requirements on returning from abroad, but I’m not confident about the measures being taken in other countries. Vaccination is proceeding at such very different rates in various countries. The entry requirements of countries are complex and changeable. Airlines too have different rules. And it’s also difficult to get up to date information. For instance, I knew Brazil was having a tough time but it was only today - when talking on the phone with a couple of Brazilian friends (fit 30s, middle-class guys) - that I learned that Sao Paulo has just introduced greater restrictions as the healthcare system in the city is on the verge of collapse.

The stated aim of the UK Government is to have every adult vaccinated by the end of July. A couple of research bodies have estimated today that this target may be reached by mid-June, assuming there’s no interruption of supply of the vaccines.

Todd Sanfield, when young as in the above pic, was sex-on-legs in my view.

Well said @nycman. Strange how this intensely private, media-hating couple turn up so often on TV and in the media. It’s undoubtedly a good thing that they generally have a private (or pet) photographer with them to make an accurate record of their good deeds.

I saw that too @bigjoey. My only quibble is your use of “may have stretched”…but maybe you’re being kind to Delusional Narcissistic Meghan. When DNM complained to Oprah about this, I did wonder just how much joy and delight she got from - waiting at check-in, - being inline to clear Security (even if it was the First Class line) - showing her passport at Border Control before - waiting for her luggage to appear on the carousel Silly Me then realised she had just swept from the aircraft to the limo, while her staff dealt with these commonplace formalities. I also recall the staggering cost to UK taxpayers of her ‘baby shower’ in NYC (when UK Police Protection Squad officers had to accompany her, along with armed protection from the State Department).

It’s important that you keep acting as normal @Lucky. I don’t want your protestations of innocence to alert the Police.

i was an avid fan of CSI so I learned about flies and decomposing bodies. Who else wonders if @Lucky was in confessional mode earlier? Now that it seems he’s got rid of the body, will he go ‘silent’ or will he, like Delusional Meghan, be ‘silenced’?

I’m surprised that no-one reports having taken him out for a full and thorough “test drive”. I had thought from previous online posts that twinks were very popular

The Palace statement was conciliatory. And 61 words long. It’s also pointed in quite a subtle way. Here you go… https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9343383/Queen-breaks-silence-Harry-Meghan.html

Did this guy just get charged with some offence? I met him years ago when he visited England briefly - that was before he became steroidal and heavily inked.

And for those who want to read more… https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9338421/Royal-revelations-test.html

I live in London and I could not have put it better @nycman. I doubt the interview will change anyone’s pre-existing view on H&M. When Meghan first arrived in the UK, there were several reports of her having come “to find a rich husband”. She befriended various people for help in meeting men, but once she met Harry she dropped those previously useful ‘friends’. I don’t believe for a moment that she didn’t do any research. I noticed Oprah didn’t ask M any tough questions about her behaviour. She didn’t ask about H&M shouting at the Queen’s favourite, long-standing servant, which rightly earned H a reprimand from the Queen. She didn’t ask why M blamed the Palace staff when H&M had handpicked them to run their private office in the Palace. It’s ironic that M blamed Palace officials for not supporting/helping her when they are the ones who tried to bury the several complaints of staff about M’s bullying behaviour. I disliked H&M complaining about being financially cut off, security being cut and the lack of a title for Archie. 1. Diana left H about $15 million on her death; being a child, it was invested on H’s behalf and when he became of age to inherit the money, it was approximately 4x that sum. Why should H expect to get money from his Dad once he ceased to work for the Royal family? 2. Security is provided by the UK Police and it costs the UK taxpayer. Only the senior working members of the Royal family get that protection. 3. M alluded to a “convention” but seemed to me to imply that because of his mixed-race Archie didn’t get a title. It’s a rule (set more than 100 years ago by King George V) that the titles of Prince, HRH etc are awarded only to some (not all) lineal descendants of the reigning Monarch. The children of H would never have been given titles, but H&M could have chosen the courtesy title of Lord for Archie and they chose not to - they registered his birth as Master which is used in the UK for any boy-child. Personally I hope the Queen strips H&M of their remaining titles. And I hope H&M stop seeking publicity, and retreat into anonymity and a quiet life in California.

Yes, because being in a relationship can mean much higher costs overall.