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Perfect. Less competition. 😉

Where's his ONLYFANS link 🤔 ??

Good point !

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I used to work with fashion companies in NYC. Several of the models told me they escorted on the side, but only through a discreet organization like you described. Many years later when I was married with babies at home, I would hire from one of these agencies for a boy's night out. I'm not personally a big consumer of porn, but what porn stars and well-known escorts DO come across my notice here on the site VERY different from what would be identified as male "supermodels" in the fashion industry. I don't think I've ever seen ONE guy mentioned in threads on porn or escorting that would pass as a "supermodel".

Its not COMPLETELY ridiculous to think that could affect their schedule. Even when people aren't actively religious, they can sometimes carry certain superstitions from their faith into their daily lives. Since Ash Wednesday is a day of repentance, it's not unreasonable for the MANY escorts from Latin America to recognize this as ONE day of the year to reflect and keep things quiet.

I traveled through Uruguay several years ago. Firstly I have to disagree with @menaughty about the food. The focus is simple meats and vegetables all done "Asar a la parrilla" (grilled). I found the restaurant culture to be fresh and deliciously healthy. So it's all a matter of how you like to eat. I am not a fan of US.American food (in spite of being born here). I do agree that Montevideo can be a bit sleepy. It's a low key lifestyle there. But being one of the few successful Socialist systems on the planet, they've accomplished a community of happy middle class people with little poverty (but also limited wealth). The only "glamourous" area is Punta del Este, which I found to be artificial, pretentious and unappealing in comparison to the REAL-NESS of the rest of the country. I started my visit in Montevideo which has a beautiful array of interesting building styles if you're a fan of architecture. Then up the coast via public transportation, which was clean, reliable and safe. Everyone was kind and helpful with my broken Spanish. Lots of charming historical spots along the way. Ending up in Cabo Polonio a charming (unofficial) hippy village at a rock point with beautiful ocean views and a huge colony of sea lions. What I liked most about Uruguay was THE PEOPLE. Without the pressures of navigating an unbalanced economic system, the majority of people, I met were laid-back, generous and kind. I never felt unsafe (with the exception of some rough teenagers in and around the abandoned buildings near the old port.)..but police presence was plentiful in areas where pickpockets work the tourist crowds. I wouldn't endorse the Country if you're looking for excitement, but if you want a peaceful existence in your retirement amongst lovely people, then it's a place I would definitley recommend.

I've had some good times on that bed.😉

YUP !! I was mostly a "straight" presenting masculine athlete when I was in my 20s and 30s. Didn't hang around the gay scene very much. But also didn't really live "in the closet" as much as I simply didn't like labels....so guys didn't view me as "obviously gay" but also knew I wasn't 100% straight...so it was interesting the number of ( generally ) straight guys who would approach me and ask me about that. Then admit they were always "curious" what it would be like to hook up with a guy but had never done it. If they were attractive to me, I'd say..."well you let me know when you wanna find out ! " 😜 The "experimenting" was a VERY wide range, from jerking off together to one very cute Italian contractor who wanted me to handcuff him and fuck his brains out. Bisexuality in men is definitely a spectrum.

I get those ALL the time on Grindr. Total turn off. What makes these guys think that listening to them struggle to take a dick is gonna be sexy 🤔?

I've had sex with SO many "straight" men that 8% just doesn't sound reasonable.

8% is miniscule based on my experiences.

I made it clear that I don't do overnights. I was speaking about the issue from the perspective of the struggle of placing value. Nobody has a clear answer. So dialogue is required. Sorry if you felt my effusive commitment to helping young providers succeed, stepped on some toes.

I'm assuming the "message" you're referring to is the clear message from upper management that their ratings sucked.

I don't think @ApexNomad does disagree with me. He's stuck on a tangent and can't get off his emotional trigger about a provider laughing.

You're missing the point of the discussion. We are talking about a YOUNG provider who KNOWS his rates for an hour..But is struggling to answer an inquiry to a DIFFERENT KIND OF MEET UP. It's pretty clear that no one is paying the same hourly rate for an overnight. Even when you follow this discussion thread, you find a lot of different perspectives. So given that fact, I don't see WHY anyone should be expected to have any answer prepared for something they have never been asked before. It's not a simple answer when you have no experience. It's like asking someone who runs a restaurant, how much to cater a wedding when they've never done that before. YOUR attitude is: "you should have an answer ready becasue you're already in the food service industry". But i guarantee they wouldn't when they've never done it before and don't know anything about how the pricing works with others. The respectful adult response is to guide the young provider through your experience (and maybe your expectation), NOT just write them off as a poor businessman, simply because they answered with a nervous laugh.

Is he "laughing at the client" 🤔 ?or is he actually embarrassed that he doesn't have an answer to the proposal. You're putting too much responsibility for the solution on the young inexperienced person.

Someone want to give this one to me for my birthday ? 🎁

The conversation is about young men who ARE prepared to discuss their rates...BUT some clients have asked about a DIFFERENT level of service that they never provided before and therefore haven't given much thought. A decent human response from a more mature adult would be to show some empathy and help guide them with some advice/ experience and concern for their well being.

That's never been a problem for me. No one has ever filmed my encounters. I like the lights dimmed during sex so they wouldn't even be able to film, anyway. It merely opens up the conversation and you discuss your details to another communications method. Once you say you're an "older successful businessman" it's pretty clear you're not contacting them to get your hot ass on camera but you're interested in a different kind business arrangement. Only a dimwit would miss that distinction.

Wow. So gross to treat human beings with such disdain.

Would love to see the collaboration video with everyone taking turns fucking Luigi Mangione

Well....THAT is the point. A young escort with no experience with overnights, is inexperienced and not yet a skilled businessman. He SHOULD be HELPED to understand HOW to price his time. As was pointed out by @ncc1701d a lack of experience can naturally lead to merely multiplying the base rate, and then having that offer rejected. I've met multiple young men over the last few years, who are new to the business or interested in making more by offering escort services on top of their massage business offerings. I am always very happy to help guide them through a logical business model and appropriate pricing. I am not interested in taking advantage of their naïveté so I can get off cheaply. If I like a young practitioner, I am more inclined to help them understand the full value of their services. I am a businessman myself and I can tell you that pricing is not some sort of straightforward mathematical formula, but takes instinct and experience.

I concur. I would add that for an inexperienced provider, the idea of asking someone for more than $1000 for their company seems daunting. Approaching the issue from a logical standpoint (I am NOT experienced in overnight appointments). If a provider asked $300/hr and you booked 2 hours, in the evening, it seems unlikely they have any more appointments booked for the same night. So simple logic says that he's made $600, the offer of $1000+ to hang out a bit longer is well practical for the provider to jump on. I have had many evenings where I enjoyed the company of a masseur/escort early in the evening. Chatted a bit after the session, invited them to dinner and then back home for a other roll-in-the-hay. So....quoted a price of $400 for 90 minutes + tip for generous interraction on the erotic services...dinner is on me...but I'm not necessarily viewing that as on-the-clock if I am picking up the check. If another round of sex is forthcoming, then I'm doubling the original ask(+tip). So I'm up to $1000. Now I am married and also, not inclined to cuddle with a stranger...so overnight isn't something I want...but I figure if the fellow has already made $1000. Offering him another $500 to $600 should be viewed as easy passive income to simply cuddle and snooze. I woukd imagine that if morning sex was in the mix, then again I'm back to sexual services and back to a normal fee structure. Using this logic it seems to me that $2000 for this kind of evening is fair..and certainly attractive to the provider when they compare it to the $400 to $500 they make with a regular hook up and then back home. I understand the comments about "valuing sleep"...but at $2000 that's five regular 90 minute sessions of $400...so he can afford to take a nap the next day if his sleep routine was disturbed.

@SirBillybob found the magic word: "collaboration". NO, you shouldn't ask directly about escorting. It will get them banned on some sites and others will get you banned. I don't know why so many members here need to be constantly reminded that prostitution is still illegal in most destinations. I've met multiple models by reaching out on Twitter and asking for a COLLABORATION. Here's MY standard pitch: "Good afternoon. I am a mature athletic male, and successful real-estate investor in New York City. Interested in scheduling a collaboration with you. Please let me know if you'd be interested in teaming up".