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Because thread is about masseurs. Not escorts. There is an overlap. Thus my comment. But let's not lose track of the subject at hand: Do clients EXPECT a happy ending from a gay masseur ?

True. But that doesn't stop people from doing it.

Of course. Just sharing perspective.

The conversation is about masseurs, not escorts.

I would have said 40. But yes. We are all like a ripening banana. Some people find it sweeter just before its rotting away.

I'm planning to work but certainly not working 40 hours a week past 65 !!

Yeah. I wasnt talking about humiliation fetishes. I am talking about providers who don't really enjoy the exchange of sexual favors for money.

Fascinating. Thank-you @muscmtl

To a degree...yes. You can't be grossly out of shape. But definitely, self confidence and attitude has made up for a few gray hairs and a lack of six pak, in my case. I am surprised at how often I still get hit on by young attractive people. The oldest I ever went for when I was young was maybe around 40. Now I am over 50 and still seem to be able to get a smile and a wink on the subway, or a phone number left on my check at the restaurant.

I wouldn't be able to stop laughing if a twink tried to top me

Consumer prices changed more than 25% between 2020 and 2023 so although the current rate of inflation may align, with this years increase your buying power is down significantly since 2019.

Isn't "twink-top" an oxymoron? 🤔

Do they? Maybe that's a perception based on shopping. I don't look for tops so I don't see them. /You don't look for bottoms so they're invisible to you. It would be an interesting subject for another thread. Do old guys who hire lean more top or bottom and how does that affect the supply/demand ratio of tops and bottoms.

I was responding to Marylander's advice that massage "wasn't worth it." I disagree. I think someone can easily see a few massage clients a day @ 150 x 4 = 600 Escorts are unlikely to see more than one or two. 300 x 2 = 600 Plus - Jerking off someone on your massage table is far less humiliating than taking it up the ass for someone who you're not attracted to. ( Yes it's just for work ). I think massage is the more comfortable career choice for most.

It's a HIRE. No. You shouldn't be offended. You're not dating.

I haven't been recently. Will try to remember the name. And by "very upscale" I don't mean the Four Seasons. I meant quite upscale for a brothel disguised as a spa.

It does.seem to be a theme. I have never run into these problems because I am aware of what each of my friends are capable of paying for. So I adjust plans accordingly. For example an artist friend of mine invited me to an off-Broadway show for which she got free tickets through a lottery system. I picked up the tab for dinner. I paid $150 / she paid nothing. But she invited me to an interesting event none-the-less. Does it really matter that you go toe-to-toe on the cash ? I think with all relationships whether it's friends or live-in-lovers; it's about equal effort, not equal numbers.

People keep blaming the schools but research has shown that poor urban children continue to fail even when money is spent on improving the school and hiring "better" teachers. The failure in poor urban areas is about the parents not valuing education and therefore not providing the emotional support necessary to succeed.

Bangkok to me, is the most civilized destination for a combination experience of spa + massage + sex. I stayed at a spa some years ago with luxurious hotel rooms where you could pick out the boys of your choice and bring them to your room for a wide variety of services. 😉

I'm assuming "LeBoy" is a business. If the "back room" is a focus of the establishment, it makes sense that they would want to capitalize on that.$15 is pocket change now. Bills gotta get paid and the owners need to make a.profit on their efforts to.keep you guys entertained.

.....Like the IRS. I hope he's claiming an income and not just spending the cash. Because this video reeks of "arrest me" if he's not paying income tax.

I do agree that a lot of gay men are heavily influenced by the immediate gratification of gay porn. I've been saying this for decades.

I agree, Simon. It is confusing for people. I agree it's a spectrum. But it IS wrong to ASSUME any masseur is also a sex worker. Yes the fellow over reacted. But some men DO seem to think that sex work is "beneath them". So will feel insulted if you ask. I don't agree...but people have a right to feel the way they do. I've never insulted a single masseur because I've never made a direct request for anything beyond a massage. I book a massage. See how intimate it gets and then discuss other interests for a second session. This method of discussion has never insulted anyone, because after an initial meet its.more personal and friendly.

Indeed And the consensus is always that you shouldn't expect a lot of interaction when you book a sensual massage. I've actually had plenty of massages where the provider gave me a happy ending but didn't allow me to touch them in return.

To each his own. Some people find "monster truck rallies" to be entertaining. Watching pick-up-trucks with giant wheels crush other cars. So exciting ! No. Sorry. I actually wasn't entertained by PotO. So many more that I could mention where I actually enjoyed the hour or two.