ncc1701d

To answer his rate, @ncc1701d, I do not remember. It’s high but he delivers!

@azdr0710He is semi-famous as a porn star. Whatever you see in the vids he’ll deliver. His interaction is the same as his film-work which I’ve never encountered before. 

Met him last week was a great experience . He starts with a Q&A, like n dislikes , best n worst session,  almost therapeutic and certainly an ice breaker. Clean place .
He is short and muscular which is exactly the type I like, an enthusiastic bottom . I had a wonderful time and will certainly repeat.

If interested this gent is a real gem to be with!  I have seen him many times!!
https://rent.men/Cameronlevy

wonder how high he goes for beyond muscle worship...but yes deposit is a no go zone for me

I mean I would def finish him😘. At least for me part of the whole experience is him cumming, preferably in me😏 but if not at least somewhere. I just feel as if it also makes their profession more rewarding ☺️. I also agree thou, just chat with them about it.
Who knows maybe he doesn’t wanna cum cuz he did earlier or maybe he’s tired 🤷🏻‍♂️. Communication is never bad😘.

Just ask him. He may assume that you don’t want his load or he may be saving his energy if he has more clients that day. If his dick is down your throat you’ve already crossed a line. 

depends..but the goal for me is to hold back enough that my cock starts throbbing but not yet coming...and it swells up a bit gets a bit harder...when my seed starts shooting I'm all in and stop fucking but push in as deep as I can...then I fuck a little violently and spasmodically...then I like a long slow fuck after that...long strokes..if the God of Multiple Loads appears I can pump out a quick second load...that orgasm is usually out of my control
 

looks beefier than his SC days.....and the first reviewer looks like got some upgrades based on the fess 😉

They've already vanished for me. That said, I would never ask a provider that didn't know me to travel even an hour,  let alone fly. Also, in lieu of a deposit, I will have a phone call, video call, whatever to show to him I'm real. If there was a way for him to confirm with a previous provider I've seen that I am what I say I am, I'd authorize that as well.  
If every client refused deposits unless the provider was having to go out of pocket or drive an hour or more, then yes, this issue would go away.

Sometimes the Lord answers your prayers.
His real and real fun.
Like dangerously addictive fun.

Met him in NYC a month or so back. Very nice, very personable extrememly hot session. Heads up he charges $500 an hour so be ready. And worh every penny. He says he charges that to eliminate the "cheapskates". I paid $600 to insure he would repeat the next time I call him. Sorry guys...some guys are just expensive. 

anyone with recent experience...if he's been on/off working for 15years then the profile age of 28 is quite a bit off lol

anyone with recent experience...if he's been on/off working for 15years then the profile age of 28 is quite a bit off lol

anyone with recent experience...if he's been on/off working for 15years then the profile age of 28 is quite a bit off lol

A NOT BEFORE DISCUSSED REASON TO SAY NO TO DEPOSITS:
Hi all again.
Many men on this thread on the debate of deposit/no deposit have read the unfortunate tales of victimization that some of our community members have described when they provided a deposit in the past- the escort took their deposit money and ran.  Its a horrible experience to be a victim. 
Consider this:
There ARE criminals out there.  And they seek out vulnerable and seemingly weak victims.  And many people in society think gay/bi men are weak.  Even if you disagree we are a weak people, many others will disagree with you. 
Many of us were victimized in our youth by a society that despised gay men or any boy with seemingly weaker attributes.  Tragically, being bullied and harmed is not a rare event for many gay men in their past history.
Yet, when you provide a deposit, this actually creates more gay/bi victims.
And these victims are your brothers. 
Why? You know when you travel out of the country and go to that wonderful "tourist" spot?  The part of the city where its charming & quaint, full of history and beauty?  Sad to say, but they often are full of pick-pockets and criminals.  Why?  Because tourists are easy prey.  They come in "vacation" mode: not paying attention, drinking too much, ignoring clues around them, looking very "touristy".  If Americans only worked on not acting so, well, touristy in these areas, the crime might go down!
When criminals think of gay and bi men, they may think we are weak and easy prey.  Then they hear from here and there how easy it is to put up a Rentmen profile & advertise escort services.  Then when approached online by one of us, they demand a deposit.   We give in because their effort seems well meaning, they seem well spoken, and promises you he just needs "reassurance" with a deposit.  You send the deposit but he runs.  Another victim. 
And that criminal is bragging and laughing about his exploits to his shady friends.  ("OMG, that stupid idiot actually sent me $100 online....!!!!").  Birds of feather flock together- these are crooks. 
And the more the escorting community for gay men is full of guys who WILL pay a deposit, the escorting pool attracts more and more shady criminals who want to steal from and victimize us.  Sure, there are escorts who are genuine and provide their services with a deposit with no problem!  But word of mouth/advertising of deposits make our hiring community like a tourist hot spot in a beautiful country: a place for criminals to go to target easy prey.   Ruins everything. 
So don't think just because you paid a deposit and your particular escort is honest that that choice alone does not add to the problem.  It does.  It makes all of us who hire more at risk for others to victimize and harm us, just like acting like a tourist in touristy areas makes those areas less safe.  Escorts who take deposits and run inevitably provide (if they show up) bad service to us.   They are not going to do all the things you want them to do.  They will be horrible providers.  They only want our cash.  We dont want to encourage them to advertise escort services. 
Protect not only yourself (NO DEPOSITS!) but protect your brothers and this wonderful hiring community-  no deposits!!
You want a safer place for gay/bi men?  Help create a community that is not making itself a target.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world"  Mahatma Gandhi
Love to all
Josh
 
PS:  to all escorts- many of you are genuine, good at what you do, and oh-so-much-fun.  You would never harm any one of us.  And you dont demand deposits!  Dont ever change.  You are beautiful. 
 

This is beginning to sound like the experience I shared above with skyler in New Orleans. His attitude is “I deserve it, you have it, therefore it’s mine to keep.”   Or young RM name “Kaiden_Foxx” who ghosted me days before a weeklong trip to NYC (that was expensive!). Or “Tyler P,” the Northeastern Grad Student who texted me and then blocked me as I was driving to pick him up at the airport saying he wasn’t on the plane and was getting off RM for good (that was an $800 plane ticket I didn’t get back)   What about my means justifies their actions?  The aggregate loss on those three examples is nearly $6K.
Your Instacart example is ridiculous.  They deliver the goods before they’re paid.   If there’s a problem, I make a call and get a refund.
You have an odd and entitled perspective that I suspect bleeds into your interactions with clients.   I encourage you to stick only to the profile you seek and stop complaining about the rest. 
 
 
I figured out the mitigation on the plane tickets - first time encounters are booked with miles.   Then, if it’s cancelled, the credit comes back to me in miles and not eCredit to the ticket holder…but there are still other costs at risk like hotels, dinner reservations, show tickets, etc.  But the moment I start making reservations, I have much more at risk than a provider deposit.  

My bad. I didn't realize we were supposed to exchange 1040s before figuring out who should take the risk. Wait. I guess that won't work, as I expect the vast majority of escorts aren't paying income tax on it.
And no, the financial risk isn't equal. The one sending the deposit is assuming the risk. If a provider is working from home, or a hotel he's staying at for multiple clients, he is already assuming expenses. 
If the client is paying for a hotel already, he isn't out additional funds either. But if the client is paying for a room just for this,  he even has more financial risk, so I guess you would be willing to assume an equal share?
And ehat you spend on a profile is not per client. Its spread across an entire months' worth, so you're talking about a few dollars each if you have multiple clients a month. Tell me you're actually kidding with the cost of placing your ad as the justification for a deposit.

Sorry, but no. No deposits. Sure escorts flake. Clients flake. Should clients ask for a refundable deposit if they get a hotel room or cancel other plans in order to meet the escort? You know,  just in case they no show or have to cancel at the last minute?
No? I didn't think so. All the reasons an escort would want a deposit apply in that case, but I'll bet you would never send a client a deposit if he was getting a room for your meet-up.
Face it. Everyone's time is valuable and trust is a two way street.  
No depsoits.

Fully agree..I find ON is more on sleep time for more $ than an afternoon session where more fun can be had

Fully agree..I find ON is more on sleep time for more $ than an afternoon session where more fun can be had

I agree with one one of the poster's comment that the issue here really isn't the deposit, but the fact that this escort is no stranger to the client (repeat hires before) and took advantage of the situation/relationship, and acted unprofessionally, which in the end hurts the escort in that what would have been somewhat regular income with a stable/reliable client is now gone.
Writing now as i just went thru the same experience (not with deposit). Multiple hr/afternoon/Overnight hires all went great, then went for a weekend and let's just say the escorts hands and mind were on his phone more than they were on me...and a supposed romantic intimate getaway turned into more a "coworker" in the same room situation.  Needless to say i will not be hiring him anymore (at least not for anything longer than an hour) unless he comes clean with what happened

I agree with one one of the poster's comment that the issue here really isn't the deposit, but the fact that this escort is no stranger to the client (repeat hires before) and took advantage of the situation/relationship, and acted unprofessionally, which in the end hurts the escort in that what would have been somewhat regular income with a stable/reliable client is now gone.
Writing now as i just went thru the same experience (not with deposit). Multiple hr/afternoon/Overnight hires all went great, then went for a weekend and let's just say the escorts hands and mind were on his phone more than they were on me...and a supposed romantic intimate getaway turned into more a "coworker" in the same room situation.  Needless to say i will not be hiring him anymore (at least not for anything longer than an hour) unless he comes clean with what happened

When you do sex as work (whether that’s escorting/massage or porn) it can become difficult to cum. So often you’re trying not to cum because ‘it’s not time yet for the film or the client …you get used to not cumming. In addition sex becomes so normal and commonplace that you become desensitised to some extent. I expect this is probably the reason he was trying to set expectations. I always try to set expectations with clients, we’re human. Things don’t always work. 
Some clients can have quite unrealistic expectations of an overnight (although to be fair those guys never actually book…they just talk about it). Overnights are more about companionship than endless full sex and cumming. It’s about chatting, cuddling, bathing, eating, watching tv or porn together, going to the hotel gym, kissing in the elevator, holding hands at the bar, kissing him passionately while he’s pinned up against the corridor wall, visiting a local sauna together, hiding under the duvet sucking him off while he phones his partner 🫣, showing him how your new prostate massage toy works, walking out of the bathroom in nothing but a leather harness and jock just as room service has wheeled in dinner…. (Ok so some of these may be autobiographical 😂). What I mean is these kind of longer sessions are about connecting much more deeply than is possible in a shorter 90m session.
Tbh I prefer to do them as an afternoon rather than overnight. They work really nicely as a 2pm to 8pm or something like that because it’s sexy to have afternoon fun while everyone else is working, there’s no sleep involved (I like my sleep uninterrupted!) and somehow it feels more illicit. Day use hotel rooms make such a thing possible. 

I stopped seeing a regular provider with whom I had done overnights and travel because he hardly if ever cummed. When I told him it was an issue for me he said that it was the goal for him to cum but most of the time he couldn’t. Even when doing overnights or 3hr bookings. 
 
I of course thanked him for the honesty because I totally understand but I stopped booking. 

Agree with you both.
I've done the same in terms of making my own choice on a provider by provider basis (i have no always/never send a deposit rule) and having criteria needing to be met to feel ok sending a deposit. And because of that, I have not been burned by providers who've asked for a deposit. So i really can't relate to how intensely against deposits some here are.
However, as evidenced by the 7 million threads on this topic there are on this forum, I'm completely aware we're in the minority there 😅.
At the end of the day though, i think deposits themselves aren't actually the issue, unprofessionalism is. Like Jamie21 said. A bad provider will be bad regardless of if they ask for a deposit or not, and most of the clients here who are super against deposits also are generally aware of the red flags to look out for for a bad hire. So it really makes me wonder what these providers are doing that where nothing else about their ad is tipping off their red flag radar.