Wolfer

30 minutes ago, le whore said:

Not sure if this counts as a review since you didn't mention the disappointing provider, but I don't know if the rules have changed on submitting reviews in the forum.

I don't think leaving a review on this site would be relevant. I hired him in Madrid.

28 minutes ago, Cure69 said:

I'd review on Google, Yelp, etc., too.

He only has the one profile on Planetromeo. But thanks for the suggestion, though! 

32 minutes ago, Cure69 said:

Really sorry to hear about this. I'd leave an honest and respectful review, too.

Thanks. And I booked a massage to pamper myself cause I've been having a really rough time lately. 🙁

Man, just had a massage. He had good technical skill but it was very mechanical and "going through the motions". It was so obvious he was thinking of other things I was unable to really enjoy myself. 

Then he cut the session short at 40 minutes (I had booked for an hour) and had the audacity to ask me to leave a positive review. 

Normally I don't say anything if it's a bad experience. I just take the loss and take my business elsewhere but because he explicitly asked I told him how I really felt and that that would be what I would say in the review. The usual justifications were offered by him "the session only goes until the client cums" and he only does "a full hour on the massage table, not on the bed". 🙄 (I always wonder at such justifications, how would they feel if I paid for less than an hour?) 

I was already feeling sad and now I'm more sad. Ugh. Anyway, I am going to leave an honest review.

1 hour ago, jjkrkwood said:

 

If you look for cut-rate meat, that's exactly what you'll get !    Prime comes at a cost. 

Except that's not true for escorts. There is very few, if any, correlation between the rate and the quality of service. The experiences I've had with guys asking higher rates have not been good. 

There are exceptions of course. But with the influx of new guys getting into escorting, I've seen more and more escort profiles treating the escorting business like Grindr hookups (demanding to see pics of the client, discounts based on the client's appearance and age...) but just wanting to get paid for them.

39 minutes ago, MscleLovr said:

In my direct experience, the rate bears little correlation to the quality of the encounter.

Very true. It's why I'm always very hesitant when a provider has an above market rate. There is no guarantee. 

I'd like to know too! 

On 1/16/2020 at 2:57 AM, Massagefreak said:

Hey. I'm thinking about hiring him this weekend.. I'll let you know if i do. Or did you hire him since December?

How'd it go? 

3 hours ago, sniper said:

I mean if you know what it is going in, then is his respect an issue? The problem is that you caught feelings and aren't over that. 

To me apparently it is. As for feelings, I don't think so. There was four months between this session and the previous one. I said yes to this one cause I needed a stress release. 

In any case, the cutting short of sessions does seem to bother me enough to feel like it is an issue. I know there's men who don't mind getting kicked out after sex but I do, especially when I'm paying and there's still ample time left on the clock. 

2 hours ago, David1024 said:

I had a similar experience with a well reviewed guy when I was visiting his town.  First time was amazing, great foreplay, oral, and fucking, then some cuddle time and we showered together. I asked if he was available the next morning and I went back for round 2, which was equally as good and I submitted a positive review to RM. The next time I saw him, all was good but seemed a little rushed. The next time, He re-scheduled me to a later time, which was fine with me, but was leaving his place 35 minutes after I arrived. I won’t be returning. 

Did you bring it up to him? If you did, how did he respond? 

8 hours ago, topunderachiever said:

" after the date I could feel all that stress had been emptied out of my body"

You're a fool to let this guy go. Keep your guard up but enjoy the wild ride.  YOLO applies here.  

That's the question, isn't it? Is the stress release and good sex worth the disrespect, disregard and feeling used by him? 

Sometimes I swing one way, sometimes the other.

15 hours ago, HotWhiteThirties said:

Thanks, @Wolfer! Very nice. 👏🏻 No wonder the conflict. 😁

 

Hahaha, thanks for the compliment! 😁😁

15 hours ago, HotWhiteThirties said:

Hope you find peace in the situation, in spite of my lightheartedness. I don't mean to diminish your concern. 

Oh no, I don't feel like you do that at all. I appreciate the lightheartedness and the empathy shown! It has actually helped.

3 hours ago, Phil_musc said:

WooHoo! Al last we see what a fine piece of ass is at the bottom of this story. Nothing wrong with your masseur's eyes! 😘

Still I agree with the above - not making light of your very real feelings here.

Hahaha, aaw, thanks! 😘 And thank you for your empathy, it's comforting to hear.

5 hours ago, Lucky said:

@WolferHow do you arrive at a 70 minute time frame? Why not an hour? Just me being curious...

5 hours ago, Luv2play said:

I'm also curious.🙄

That's just the package he offers as standard. Not really sure how he came up with it. He's fairly new to the business.

6 hours ago, aeikaryoko said:

It’s unfortunate to lose one, but there will always be another to replace him.

In all the years I've hired I've always found either a good masseur who wouldn't escort or an escort who wasn't a good (or even trained) masseur. This guy has both, is good at sex and is physically completely my type. So not too sure I'll find one like him again quickly.

4 hours ago, HotWhiteThirties said:

That's nice feedback. You're welcome. Not sure how helpful it actually is, but this has been an interesting story to follow and I share whatever thoughts I have. And he definitely doesn't care about you flashing the phone or admonishing him on the time.."with proof." Let that go. 

It has been very helpful! It's like you crystillazed it down to its essentials. So thanks again! Oh and definitely about the timer thing. I'm letting that go. Just so disappointing.

4 hours ago, HotWhiteThirties said:

That's very sad that it has impacted you emotionally. Understandable to have differing expectations. You mentioned being in Brussels...is there a language or cultural barrier at play perhaps? 

Yeah, I've been absolutely frazzled with stress lately because of life and after the date I could feel all that stress had been emptied out of my body so to then realize I would have to stop seeing him and lose such a stress release... Ooph.

He's from France and speaks perfect English and has Brazilian roots and an artist (paint and wood) so we had quite a few connecting points. I just think he got stars in his eyes when he realized he could get paid to fuck a guy he was actually physically attracted to and forgot there was a person at the other end of his penis. He's very very new to the business and has only offered massage services. So I think he just sort of started treating me as a hookup because he lacked previous experience as a provider with clients.

4 hours ago, HotWhiteThirties said:

Especially if it is as hot as it sounds. 😁

It was... He is really good at sex. Which just makes it even more disappointing, hahaha.

7 hours ago, aeikaryoko said:

Can I see?  😜

5 hours ago, Phil_musc said:

Yes, yes, I thought photos had been promised a while back here.

4 hours ago, HotWhiteThirties said:

This!😜😁🤣

Ugh fffffiiiiiiiiinnnneee 🤣🤣🤣

4 hours ago, HotWhiteThirties said:

I would quit bringing up to him anything about the time shortage and decide if you're in the mood next time he reaches out and just treat it for what it is. No money exchanged. He doesn't care about the time. 
 

When you're good and clear headed, you might send him a message preemptively and just let him know up front you will no longer be paying for time should he reach out again in the future. Maybe he goes away...or maybe he hits you up again for a piece and that's already out there. If you take him up on it, I'd leave my $ at home. 
 

If he never reaches out again, so be it. 
 

You're getting advice to drop this guy. That's probably not bad advice, either. 
 

I'm still a little jealous. 😜🤣

I love your write-ups. They are so concise and excellently recap the advice! Thanks! Yeah looks like he's over me after me mentioning the time hahaha. We'll see! 

But yes, I hope I won't cave next time he comes knocking. Why would I? Part of me still wants to delude myself apparently. It's... Well. Ugh. 

Anyway, why be jealous? All I'm left with is genuine disappointment and I also had a bit of a cry over it. (not just over this alone, but things have been piling up and he was an excellent stress release 😔 one of the very very few I have) 

1 hour ago, Tristatedude said:

@WolferWhen are you going to post a link to his ad so we can help you out by seeing if it's just you or if he does the same with others.  😁

Hahaha you'd have to come to Brussels. I think on first sessions he's amazing and for clients who stay purely massage clients probably also. I just think, given he's very new to the business and was never an escort, he got me mixed up with treating me as a hookup instead of as a client. 

Anyway, I'm going to put on sunglasses and a big scarf and wail on a bench in the park. Mourning over losing this hot piece of ass. Well, dick, cause he fucked my hot ass. 

1 hour ago, alexslaveboy said:

f you are paying for 70 minutes do not feel uncomfortable or badly about telling him that you expect 70 minutes of his time 

I let him know today and he flat out denied he ever cut a session short and said he has given me more than 70 minutes every single we've met... I must be misreading the timer on my phone 🤔

I'm really disappointed because I've had lots of fun with him before 😕

24 minutes ago, MassageAdam said:

It's one of my frustrations with escorts in Spain.  When I confront them on it, they say "you pay up to 60 min., if we finish we sex before that time, then we finish before and the session is over."  So now I have to be clear with when making an appointment it is for the full hour and not just up to one hour.  When making your next appointment with your guy, just say you expect the entire 70 min or you will pass on your appointment.  

Oh wow, I've never heard that line of reasoning before. 

I let him know about the length of the sessions and he completely denies it. Says that he has the impression he always gives me more than 70 minutes... The timer on my phone disagrees. 

8 hours ago, HotWhiteThirties said:

You have yourself quite a conundrum it seems. 
 

A leopard doesn't change his spots. You are not going to change this guy. Clearly it's on his terms, but you like the sex. The benefit as you're figuring is full service at massage rates.

I'd still be willing to wait until he asks again and when he does just tell him if you come over at his request it will be as a booty call and you won't be bringing any money with you. See if he still wants you to come over. 

I believe in a provider's right to earn for quality service, but that's not what this is. He's wanting ass on demand and to also be paid.

Wanna really throw him for a loop? Quote him a price for your next visit. Sounds like there's gonna be one of some sort. 😜 Am I right? 😜🤣

This is such a good and insightful response, thank you! 

"but that's not what this is. He's wanting ass on demand and to also be paid." 

Absolutely, you took the words right out of my mouth. And yeah, I'm still sort of open to meeting him... The sex and massage (if he gives one) are incredibly good. 

I texted him to let him know I was disappointed he cut our sessions short. His answer? Telling me he gives me way more than 70 minutes each time. 😂

The timer on my phone disagrees 😂😂😂 (I ran a timer last time to make sure I wasn't making a mistake with the time) 

6 hours ago, Redwine56 said:

@Wolferif you had any doubts about the kind of person he is, this meet-up should have clarified that for you.  You went to see him with the intention of getting a massage ÷ the expected sex to follow as in past hook-ups.  This time there was no massage at all.  He got right down to business and then had the audacity to take your $$$ for the booty call.  You hadn't seen him in 2 months and it didn't sound as if you were in touch during that time.  He should have truly welcomed you if he had any feelings for you even as s friend for past times spent together.  Instead he got what he wanted straight away, wouldn't even comply with your simple request of a neck and back massage and then was rushing you out.  You deserve better than that.  

Yes, I feel like he didn't even appreciate my business as a client, just there to get my money. I told him about him cutting sessions short and he denies it. 🙄 Even though I had a timer running on my phone to make sure I wasn't imagining things... 

There's a provider I've met a few times. First time was absolutely mindblowing and no clock watching at all. 

Second time he was somewhat rushed and felt like he wanted me to leave and the session was short. 

Thinking it an exception I did meet up for a third time. The sex was again amazing and he was friendly but after the sex was done we still had about 40 minutes (of the 70 minute session) but he suddenly really started making it clear he wanted me to leave. 

Since all other factors, other than cutting the session short, are good (great even) I wanted to text him this:

"I've been a bit disappointed with our last two sessions because it felt like, after sex, you wanted me to leave as quickly as possible. This meant that both sessions were very short. If we meet again in the future, I would really appreciate it if we could enjoy the full 70 minutes I am paying for. Once those 70 minutes are up, I will leave faster than lightning, hahaha."

I'd love to hear your thoughts and feedback. 

16 hours ago, HotWhiteThirties said:

So you paid this guy? 🤔

Those were not your instructions. 😜🤣🤣🤣

Omg talk me off the ledge, please, hahaha. I started wondering what I was complaining about since I realized he's basically giving me full escort services at massage rates. 

But I can't get over the fact he's scheduling me and cutting our sessions short. Maybe if he'd be more generous with post-sex interaction (which he was when we first met) I'd still consider it. 

Uuuuugh. 

Hahaha. 

🤪🥴

Time to put on my big boy pants

11 hours ago, HotWhiteThirties said:

So you paid this guy? 🤔

Those were not your instructions. 😜🤣🤣🤣

I knoooooow, hahahaha. I hadn't been touched in months and was seriously touch starved so I was open to meeting. 

But yeah, I have no interest anymore. Even though I'm really happy I went because I again learned a lot about myself and some parts were really hot. 

On 3/31/2021 at 11:50 PM, HotWhiteThirties said:

@Wolfer, I definitely would not be "hiring" this guy anymore. If he wants anything to happen, if it were me, it would be an old fashioned hook up and only if I'm in the mood at this point. Just my two cents. Have fun! ? Keep us posted on any future hot encounters. ?

Gave an update in the previous post!

1 hour ago, CuriousByNature said:

That's awful.  Is this individual still advertising?  Could you send me a DM?

I don't know, I never saved his profile and the exchange was over text. He advertized in Europe, though. 

So I thought I'd give an update. 

Over the past few months we occasionally exchanged texts but no meeting materialized. Then this morning he texted me, asking if we could meet. Since I've been really stressed and could use a massage I thought why not. I ask him if he's available tonight. He says he's not, he's meeting a friend but he can reschedule. I reply that's not necessary and we can meet another time but he keeps... Being enthusiastic? So I let him reschedule his friend and we schedule a meet later that night.  (I was halfway between feeling flattered and wondering if he needed money, hahaha) 

So anyway, session is really short, about 30 minutes. He goes straight to fucking me, no massage at all. (his sessions are normally 70 minute massages for the rate I pay). 

So when we're cuddling I ask if he could still give me a back and neck massage to which he says "if we still have time" (we absolutely still had half an hour left) and at that moment I was over it, hahaha. He did give me a massage but then put on his clothes and made it VERY clear I was expected to leave. 

The whole thing took way less than the 70 minutes his rate normally gets someone. 

I'm over this guy, hahaha. This is the second time he's shorted a session. I was willing to accept a shorter session because previously he did give a massage and the sex was good. But today it just felt like he was horny and I was just there for him to get off and give him money. 

He lost this customer for sure, hahaha.

Having said all that I am happy I went because my body is more relaxed and I've topped up on feel-good hormones. But honey, treat me like a fleshlight and an ATM and I am out, hahaha. 

On 6/18/2021 at 9:39 AM, CuriousByNature said:

Yikes... I hope most professionals would never modify the donation for their time based on a client's physical appearance.

I've had this happen. An escort quoted me his price and then told me that I also had the option of sending him photos of myself to see if he would give me a discount based on how attractive he thought I was. I declined to respond. 

A real 7" is hung for me. And I mean a real, measured 7" because I've noticed that many guys are horrible at estimating another guy's size and what they think is 8" (and hung) is actually a real 7" (whereas guys who are below 7" will claim they are 7" which is why I think where this '7" is just above average' comes from) 

My last boyfriend had a huge dick, heavy and thick in my hands. I couldn't believe my eyes when I measured it and saw it was 7". I'd guessed at least 8 or even 8.5

6 hours ago, Jay Sams said:

No nudes is a reasonable do not?? What do you think he is selling?? Pretty ridiculous.

Yeah this one baffles me to and it surprises me there are quite a number of escorts who will, under no circumstance, send nudes. And yet they have plenty of reviews. I don't get it.