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Thanks to those of you who sent PM's wishing me a Happy Father's Day, and several people asked for an update. I'm so sorry to have left you hanging!
 
The day Navy Twin read me the riot act, I went to my room to lie down and think. When his brothers got home, he told them about our talk, and they were non-plussed to find he'd done it without them (I suspect so he could tell me his concern about his older brother). I could hear the shower going for a while and lots of murmuring, then a knock on my door. In came Older Brother and DePaul Twin to ask how I was doing. They had indeed all talked about it, but were planning to talk to me together. I said it was a lot to think about but I couldn't really argue against it, and told them I would talk to my buddy and see how it went.
 
He and I talk a lot, and Skype often, so the next evening I called him and asked if we could videochat. (That has usually involved some, ahem, cyber sex). But once we were online I basically told him what NT had said, leaving out the opinion that he's in love with me-- that was for him to say if he wanted to. He was quiet and asked what I thought. For the second time I described my promiscuity as a teenager when I slept around but never really had a girlfriend, never "went steady," and how the only relationship I'd ever been in was with my wife. And I said I missed seeing him, not just for the sex. So while I didn't quite know what it meant, I'm open to making this more serious. He grinned and said, "Are you asking me to go steady?" And we both laughed as I said yes, I guess I am. He said let me think and I'll get back to you.
 
In about a half an hour I heard a lot of commotion from the boys. I went to see what was up, and they were all in the den with their phones or laptops. My friend had emailed each one individually to say he appreciated their thoughts. He said, and I'm paraphrasing, that he would always be honest with me, that he would never do anything to intentionally hurt me, and that he would never do anything to come between them and me. And he ended with "So I am asking your permission to court your father." DT had responded "Go for it." OB had said, "Of course you can." NT said, "Hell yes!"
 
Back to Skype, where we said okay, let's see where this goes. One thing, we're not sure what to call "this." We're in our 40s and both feel "boyfriend" is kind of silly, but there may be nothing better for now. DePaul Twin jokingly suggested "gentlemen friends" but that's a little too Tennessee Williams for me.
 
Since then we pretty much talk every day although we haven't been physically together for months. But we are still sharing more and more of our lives, and I think this is working. There's more to tell, including an issue I alluded to in the other thread, but I'll save that, for another day.
 
It's odd living in a house as one of four celibate (for now) men. Without getting too graphic let me say the issue in the house these days is not running out of toilet paper, but running out of Kleenex. Older Brother is truly miserable and spends a lot of time in his room with his laptop. Navy Twin talks with his gf every day, and DePaul Twin has a couple of friends-who-are-girls he keeps up with in Chicago. And, well, I guess I'm in a long-distance relationship even though he's just across town. Wish us all luck.

One nice thing about escort client relationships that turn into friendships and more, is that looks are out of the equation. The escort is hot, usually. The client is not, more often then not. But they meet, Interact. Learn about each other. The superficiality of physical attraction becomes less important and the attraction on a different level becomes more pertinent. So what brought them together, money and looks, are only the way they meet, not the way they stay together.

I wanted to make two points here about the data available regarding Corona virus.
 
1. I believe that the number of deaths is an important criterion of course, but a normalization factor is required to compare different regions or countries in order to do a data analysis. Indeed for any family that has lost one life due to this pandemic, it is that loss which affects them the most and all the statistical analysis can offer no consolation.
 
The number of deaths per 1 million of population is thus a good parameter to consider as is provided in https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
The world average is 55.4 while that of USA is 355. Many countries in Europe have much higher numbers Belgium being the worst affected with 833.
Now if we look at 5 continents, North America, South America, Europe, Asia and Africa one observes a huge difference in deaths per 1 million of population and the numbers are 245, 137, 244, 9 and 5. The reasons for high numbers in Europe and North America compared to Asia and Africa with much higher population is something that only expert health officials will be able to answer. Indeed one can suspect errors in data reporting etc but even then the difference is striking. Various publications have been talking about the effect of TB vaccine (BCG) and polio vaccine etc (OPV) etc. and their potential of offering some immunity. A rather markedly lower death rates from Corona in nations that continue to provide BCG to infants can be seen.
 
2. I do believe that the rate of change of total cases per day is important to assess the effectiveness of various strategy of lock-down, mask use, avoiding group meetings etc. If one compares say Italy and USA as an example, the number of cases in Italy went down from a peak of 5639 (on March 27th) to 264 (on June 13th) in 78 days while in the USA it changed from 34044 (on April 9th) to 25302 (on June 13 th) in 65 days. Clearly, in Italy the situation has improved very much so far while that in the USA shows a very slight decrease only and so efforts of control has not yet shown sufficient results here.

https://www.reviewjournal.com/business/some-las-vegas-casino-workers-say-jobs-not-safe-as-resorts-reopen-2051371/
 
This report probably gives some idea about the situation in the casinos. Casinos do have a infrared thermal scan as we enter and they can give you mask (and gloves in some) if you request. However very rarely do guests use them in my observation and very few visitors here who can be seen walking outside on the strip seem to use masks. Though casinos have set up for people to play on only alternate slot machines, the aisles, staircases, etc are really not designed for social distancing and cannot be practiced. This is the true state of affairs and as is with most public places that are open one has to make personal adjustments adapting to the inevitable post-Corona-panic life. Human beings will adapt to the environment. After all we have (or still are) gone through so many pandemics and highly contagious diseases like the measles, smallpox etc and life goes on in spite of the horrific death of many people on this planet. Awareness, practice of maximum possible practically possible care (of self and others) and enjoying life (or what remains of it) as much as possible is all that we can do.

Not a fan. Too many pitfalls. And I'm afraid the dynamic of any future booking may be off; people often tend to engage in obligations for which they've already been paid begrudgingly, like they're doing you a favor by upholding their end.
 
I understand that this guy needs some help. That's when he should look to friends and family, but not clients.
 
Kevin Slater

Thanks for sharing this heartbreaking story. I have always applaud a doctor's career (my brother is a surgeon) and can guess the mental agony under these situations in spite of years of training and having seen it all. I sincerely hope to God that you have the mental strength and wish you well.
I had heard an audio recording from a nurse who works in an Italian hospital and she said that the unpublished information to hospital staff was to just keep all very sick people above 80 years comfortable and use the ventilator on potentially savable younger patients. She recalled the situation when the first time she had to remove the ventilator from an older patient and her experience of the lady looking at her as she was removing the equipment. She said that by the time the equipment was ready to be used on the next patient the other lady was already gone. She said that all she could do was pray to God.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience. God bless you

Thanks for sharing this heartbreaking story. I have always applaud a doctor's career (my brother is a surgeon) and can guess the mental agony under these situations in spite of years of training and having seen it all. I sincerely hope to God that you have the mental strength and wish you well.
I had heard an audio recording from a nurse who works in an Italian hospital and she said that the unpublished information to hospital staff was to just keep all very sick people above 80 years comfortable and use the ventilator on potentially savable younger patients. She recalled the situation when the first time she had to remove the ventilator from an older patient and her experience of the lady looking at her as she was removing the equipment. She said that by the time the equipment was ready to be used on the next patient the other lady was already gone. She said that all she could do was pray to God.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience. God bless you

Thanks for sharing this heartbreaking story. I have always applaud a doctor's career (my brother is a surgeon) and can guess the mental agony under these situations in spite of years of training and having seen it all. I sincerely hope to God that you have the mental strength and wish you well.
I had heard an audio recording from a nurse who works in an Italian hospital and she said that the unpublished information to hospital staff was to just keep all very sick people above 80 years comfortable and use the ventilator on potentially savable younger patients. She recalled the situation when the first time she had to remove the ventilator from an older patient and her experience of the lady looking at her as she was removing the equipment. She said that by the time the equipment was ready to be used on the next patient the other lady was already gone. She said that all she could do was pray to God.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience. God bless you

Thanks for sharing this heartbreaking story. I have always applaud a doctor's career (my brother is a surgeon) and can guess the mental agony under these situations in spite of years of training and having seen it all. I sincerely hope to God that you have the mental strength and wish you well.
I had heard an audio recording from a nurse who works in an Italian hospital and she said that the unpublished information to hospital staff was to just keep all very sick people above 80 years comfortable and use the ventilator on potentially savable younger patients. She recalled the situation when the first time she had to remove the ventilator from an older patient and her experience of the lady looking at her as she was removing the equipment. She said that by the time the equipment was ready to be used on the next patient the other lady was already gone. She said that all she could do was pray to God.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience. God bless you

Thanks for sharing this heartbreaking story. I have always applaud a doctor's career (my brother is a surgeon) and can guess the mental agony under these situations in spite of years of training and having seen it all. I sincerely hope to God that you have the mental strength and wish you well.
I had heard an audio recording from a nurse who works in an Italian hospital and she said that the unpublished information to hospital staff was to just keep all very sick people above 80 years comfortable and use the ventilator on potentially savable younger patients. She recalled the situation when the first time she had to remove the ventilator from an older patient and her experience of the lady looking at her as she was removing the equipment. She said that by the time the equipment was ready to be used on the next patient the other lady was already gone. She said that all she could do was pray to God.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience. God bless you

Thanks for sharing this heartbreaking story. I have always applaud a doctor's career (my brother is a surgeon) and can guess the mental agony under these situations in spite of years of training and having seen it all. I sincerely hope to God that you have the mental strength and wish you well.
I had heard an audio recording from a nurse who works in an Italian hospital and she said that the unpublished information to hospital staff was to just keep all very sick people above 80 years comfortable and use the ventilator on potentially savable younger patients. She recalled the situation when the first time she had to remove the ventilator from an older patient and her experience of the lady looking at her as she was removing the equipment. She said that by the time the equipment was ready to be used on the next patient the other lady was already gone. She said that all she could do was pray to God.
 
Thank you for sharing your experience. God bless you

I do not usually have a difficult time coping. Life is hard and mine has been easier than most. But today, I have just hit the wall. Working in a New Jersey Hospital is not nearly as difficult right now as working in a NYC Hospital. We have most equipment. We have beds. We have staff. We have patients and each day we have more and more patients. Right now the numbers are not overwhelming but they are increasing and more and more compromises are being made. Most of the staff are just doing their job. But there is an air of anxiety and trepidation hanging around every corner. There are hollowed shells walking the halls. Fear and uncertainty is everywhere. There are no laughs not even at jokes with a dark humor,
 
I went into work today and started the day as part of a physician conference call. The conference call was to inform us that the governor has given physicians immunity. This is not being widely publicized. Essentially, within the scope of good medical practice, we cannot be be sued for actions that previously would have been not only malpractice but quite possibly criminal. That is, we were informed of the plans for the upcoming ventilator shortage. It is not first come first served as it is in the toilet paper aisle. There is no hoarding or buying for a friend, When the respirators are 90% in use, which is the case in several hospitals in New Jersey, then patients are assigned a color code. Green patients are those that get to keep the respirators. Yellow are the patients about whom clinical status and general condition are favorable. Red are the patients that are first in line to have their respirators removed should others in higher categories need them. Blue, well blue never get the respirator from the onset.
 
I could barely contain my anger, fear, frustration, and utter disappointment. We knew this was coming, I knew it was coming but now it is here and it is a palpable real pain, physical, mental, emotional and spiritual. We were given guidelines as to what to tell family members when it is time to take their loved one off the ventilator. They do no have the final word. There is an appeals process, but that process can only last 30 minutes while the patient waiting for the ventilator is manually ventilated, Two more hours will be needed to clean the ventilator and reequip it.
 
Three people will take turns manually ventilating the patient, Oh did I mention that once you are assigned a color, the person coming off the respirator would have had to be on the respirator for 5 days, so theoretically long enough to turn the corner and get themselves into a higher color group. However, the decision as to who comes off the respirator is made by random computer selection of those in the lowest category.
This is not to say that the assignment of the color group is random.
 
Patient's are stratified by a variety of factors, age NOT being one of them.
 
Today, I had a new patient with possible Covid admitted to my service. She is 87 with a touch of dementia and lives at her daughter's home with a loving family. I spoke with her daughter on the phone to get information about her mother. She told me to try and do everything to help her mother but that if it was clear that there was no hope of her returning to her previous level of functioning, or close to it, that her mother had decided long ago that she did not want to live that kind of life.
 
When I went into see the patient, I gowned and gloved and on the way in , I noticed her lunch tray and decided to give a hand to the other staff by bringing it in. PPE (personal protection equipment ) is still sufficient but not plentiful so my act saved one set. I brought her lunch tray in with me and saw a pleasant looking woman who appeared about 15 years younger than her age. She had eyes closed and did not respond when I called her name. I put down her lunch tray next to her untouched breakfast tray and did my exam. She appeared to be comfortable and was definitely someone who was doing much better than her numbers (lab values vital signs and other measurable qualities). I went to leave and the empty breakfast tray and the new lunch tray just haunted me. I opened the packet for her utensils and the vanilla pudding put a bit on the spoon and placed it by her lips. She opened her lips and took a taste. Then another. Some of her fruit cup and then most of her mashed potatoes followed. A bit of meatloaf and then the rest of her pudding. She said nothing. She did not open her eyes, even as I tried to coax her to do so. Finally, on a bit of the meatloaf.
 
She refused to open. Another offer and another refusal and so I knew after 30 minutes of being fed, she was not taking any more. I said out loud to her, I guess that is it for now and as I left I heard her faintly say: Thank you. I turned and her eyes were open and then, a second later, they closed again. For that second they were so clear and blue and aware and I imagined her quite the beauty in her youth. After that second, she was back in that space where she was when I walked in, but she had let me know she was there.
 
Next week, her condition may worsen and she will be a blue. She won't get a chance at a life saving machine, She will likely pass alone in a hospital with a loving daughter sitting at home hoping for all the world for her mother to get better. Even if I could do more medically, which I cannot, I could not alter her course. Even now, the most I could do for her he be present, give her some pudding and hope that time and some combination of medications we are giving her make a difference,
 
I do not usually have difficulty coping, but today I hit the wall and next week this day will be the good old days when I had 30 minutes to spend with one patient.

...came here today and am appalled by some of the responses that I read for this once intended tame thread. ...am glad that I have refused to respond.
 
I've been at daddy's reviews and this website for over 20+ years.

I am no doctor but the way I interpreted the reasoning behind this is that just because it doesn't affect young(er) people to the same extent as it does to old(er) people, you (as a younger person) may experience symptoms anywhere from medium to mild to virtually nothing (not to mention the possibility of a lengthy incubation period during which you can contract others just as easily); it is the fact of how highly contagious it is - combined with a relatively high mortality rate for the population in general - and if let's say all 50 years old and younger can roam around free, they will still meet elderly people whom they can easily contract the virus to and cause serious medical conditions as well as deaths to them. That is how I interpreted it based on everything I know about this.
 
I would also advise you to look at the statistics in Italy by age group:
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103023/coronavirus-cases-distribution-by-age-group-italy/
 
It is also very interesting, but let's hope this will come through and we won't have to hide anymore:
https://techcrunch.com/2020/03/19/french-study-finds-anti-malarial-and-antibiotic-combo-could-reduce-covid-19-duration/

Masturbation is your friend right now. Rely on the spank bank of beautiful gems locked in your memory. This, too, my friends, shall pass.

But what blissful experiences those "exchanges" with you have been !! Hoping for more............."
 
 
Let us keep the germs away. Let us all hope that the Corona will subside soon and I am sure that humans are smart enough to control this Corona and many many more to come in the future.

Mask does nothing other than helping you not to spread it if you have already got it... I would expect a lot of "germ exchange" when you meet a provider.... :p:p

I too hope that this is not the last post about this somewhat delicate topic from MicroSDcard , as you say: CuriousByNature.
 
One has to remember that discussions forums like these are to exchange the participant's honest views and one always assesses opinions and draw one's own especially since we get views from a multitude of people from various angles. Indeed there maybe ones that you absolutely disagree with too. Just as some escort may have provided the time of life to one person and another person may feel that he got a rather lukewarm reception and we see that in these discussions too.

I hope this isnt your last post! Youve opened up an important conversation here, and your input is very valuable ?. Not everyone will get where youre coming from because each of us is on our own path, but you have helped enrich things here already. The great thing about the board is we can get opinions from those with much more experience who are willing to offer guidance. It doesnt mean we will necessarily like all the feedback we get, or that we need to take it... but in my estimation, more 95% of the posts I've read since joining seem to come from a good place - though how its communicated varies from person to person. So, again, I hope it isnt your last post... ?

Great for you!! Envy you, man

Just a heads up, this is a "keeping it real", no glamour write up. Remember this is my experience and how I've processed everything I've learned. It will likely contain tips, general knowledge and some nice general entrainment for many.
 
I am currently writing this from my hotel room in Sydney. Since August 1st. I've travelled to
 
- Chicago
- San Deigo
- Honolulu
- Seoul
- Hong Kong
- Tokyo
- Hokkaido
- Bangkok
- Phnom Penh
- Kuala Lumpur
- Bali
- Singapore
- Sydney
 
Upcoming on my travels
- Carines
- Melbourne
- Back to Hong Kong
- Siem Reap
- Shanghai
- Maybe Vietnam
 
Likely to go back stateside sometime end November - early January.
 
FAQ
Why?
I graduate school next year! (woo). The last part of my program is completely online and I am able to do school and travel at the same time. Once I decide to start working and realistically I won't get 6 months to travel freely like this again. I want to thank a lot of people who encouraged me to go on this adventure, many of whom are on this forum. It's been a great trip for me to somewhat open my mind to the world and grow a little bit maturity wise and my emotional development.
 
How?
I was initially scared because of the duration, costs and practicality. My general monthly costs at home include two dc apartments, private health & dental insurance, quarterly tax payment that i save every month to pay, money to my family, phone bill, gym, food and toiletries. This normally runs up 7-8k in responsibilities a month, it is stressful to think about sometimes. I am generally a frugal individual who really values every dollar that is earned and spent. I used to stress out about $650 rent payment when I was 16 and homeless (family & parent issues :'( shit sucked). Granted one of the apartments I rent out full time as an AIRBNB business.
 
I decided to to rent out my primary apartment. This covered a good portion of my expenses at home (not so much during the bad months). I've had great luck and been blessed. I thank everything that has happened and the people who have helped me. Can't be grateful enough.
 
Travel Costs
I decided to work during my travels so this impacted my costs as I decided that 4 - 5 star hotels would be my main accommodations.
Costs include, flights, hotel, food, tours, activities and misc expenses, this cost about 4k-5k a month. I've travel frequently enough where I get upgraded rooms and flights, this has helped significantly with my costs. I could have cut my expenses in half if I stayed in Hostels or coach surfed. So something to definitely think about and decide what is best for your situation.
 
Information
I've used the following to get all my information to help me on my trip and enjoy everything!
- Trip Advisor
- google flights
- Marriott bonvoy (playing with dates, costs and strategically placing myself in the most advantageous position)
- friend's i've made on previous trips
- any client advice!
 
I am a big believer in reaching out and talking to everyone! Even people on grindr were super helpful and nice once they found out I was traveling (even gave me help to find a good hospital when I got sick with traveler's sickness).
 
Escorting
In many of the countries, local talent rates ranged from $20 usd to $100 usd with $50 being the median for a short appointment and $50 - $400 usd with $100 being the median for a longer appointment (overnight). I kept my rates similar to my rates back in the States. Your cliental overseas in most asian countries will likely be the top 5%-10% of the local population, expats or other travelers as well.
 
I averaged about ~$1,000 a week, this was perfect for me. I broke even on most of my traveling costs and it gave me the time to focus on school and enjoy the traveling. I typically spent a week in a city. It gave me 3/4 days to study / focus on school and 3/4 days to focus on being a tourist and enjoy local sites and culture. So if you were thinking about coming to Asia to make lots of money some cities are definitely better for this ie. Hong Kong, Singapore and Australian cities. I can't attest personally as that was not the purpose of my trip.
 
However (side note to the section)
- I would generally say if you are a conventionally attractive escort coming with no link you will do well in the cities mentioned above and it will definitely pay for your trip and make some money. How much? this will likely depend on a few things; luck, your current network overseas, business skills and timing.
 
I've observed Asian clients overseas are typically very conservative. I'm generally a very conservative individual in nature so it was not an issue for me. For ie. no hugging or pda in public, I pretended I didn't know them or they were family (easier since I am asian and they are asian and the age gap between us made sense logically). I remember reading a post by another escort mentioning that asian clients are very picky. So I booked mostly 5 star hotels to avoid this. 5 Star hotels overseas are generally inexpensive compared to their counterparts in the States and Europe. So far i've never had a client complain about the location/hotel. Most of the time they compliment/praise the location or hotel. (trip advisor will be your biggest friend).
 
Tips
- Get an international plan with FAST data!!, its annoying to swap out sim cards imo and data is very important for many obvious reasons
- Get Whatsapp, Line and Wechat
- If you just want to come over to make money and not explore the culture / leave your hotel room. I wouldn't recommend doing a trip like this. You could likely utilize your time more effectively doing other things.
- Board-less account. Carrying thousands of dollars overseas in Asia? No I'm too conservative and risk conscious to consider this. A majority of my payments were electronic bank wires. Definitely recommend to do your research. YMMV (Your Milage May Vary)
- Hire local talent just to pick their brain and talk about the business and their life. I've always had a curiosity for knowledge in general. So the opportunity to learn about other cultures, other people's lives and how business works overseas is golden here.
- Speak to locals, i'm a very chatty person (this might annoy you but when you are overseas you will never know until you ask)
 
Take Aways
At times i'm homesick and disliking not being home with my family, friends and loved ones. Other times I really love life, seeing, eating, exploring, meeting and experiencing new places, cultures, food, things and people! So I'm definitely no shrinking violet. I hope this post has been informative to those looking for some information or confidence or some sort of current evidence and entertaining for those who just enjoy reading about different view points or sharing life experiences.
 
Growing up I was sort of an under dog. I never felt like I belonged. I grew up working class, my parents worked 14 hour days, I worked in their business every summer and almost everyday after school since I was 7/8 years old. School mates would make fun of me "ching ching why don't you go back to your country", "can you see? be careful not to walk into walls", "do you speak english", derogatory names, turned their eyes into almond shape to mock me, made fun of my clothes and my parents car. I was even pushed physically and pushed to the ground, kicked and tripped. Of course I fought back and told them to f$%# off. It wasn't until high school we got separated by academic levels and I was separated from most of the lot. Then different comments came along such as "it's not fair, he's asian, it comes natural for him". You could say I used to have a chip on my shoulder and there may be some remnants of it. My parents lost their business and home when I was 16. Shit got tough. It sucked. I decided to give up an academic full ride to college, my parents were hurting physically and financially (they are close to their 60's at this point), going through shit mental health wise and had to grow up and face reality. 20/20 thinking back, I sometime chuckle because I have always been blessed, had good health, had both my parents, both parents worked, born in a first world country, never had to fight in a civil war, the normal first world amenities we take for granted.
 
Now present day, I'm happy with a healthy mental state. I help my parents out. I am surrounded by good friends, loved ones and graduating university soon. I'm going to humble brag, a few years ago I got the chance to take my parents on their first vacation in 21 years. I took them 2 months overseas in Europe. I got some really good tests scores for grad school and it looks like i'm heading in that direction.
 
Something that had helped me greatly was thinking back to when people would kick me down physically or verbally in my face. I remember those feelings, forgive them, try to never make anyone else feel this way, treat them the way they want to be treated, be positive and I count the blessings I current have. Everyone has things they are working on and a past. I try to be the best person I can be everyday.
 
If you have any questions that have not been answered, please ask. I've always believed in having a constant curiosity for knowledge!

To the original question : Yes, there are many escorts who do discriminate against clients and their race/ethnic/continent origin.
I had set up an appointment with a Las Vegas escort and based on past experiences, had clearly mentioned my ethnic and my Asian origin in texts. On the day of appointment, about 20 min before the appointment time, after he gave me his address etc., when I mentioned that he should look for an Asian guy with the specific ethnic origin, he says "I do not see Asians". The funny thing was he too is of Asian origin!!

To the original question : Yes, there are many escorts who do discriminate against clients and their race/ethnic/continent origin.
I had set up an appointment with a Las Vegas escort and based on past experiences, had clearly mentioned my ethnic and my Asian origin in texts. On the day of appointment, about 20 min before the appointment time, after he gave me his address etc., when I mentioned that he should look for an Asian guy with the specific ethnic origin, he says "I do not see Asians". The funny thing was he too is of Asian origin!!

Just looked at his ad now and note that he has added some nice photos. I think I need to refresh my memories of him in person when I get a chance. He has always provided some of my best times in Las Vegas.

Peter Hung has been my favorite. Looking at the number of times he is suggested as a goto guy in Vegas, I think he remains a favorite of many I am sure