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The short answer is yes to both. It got to where he wouldnt charge me for weekends I was in town, and to me, he was exactly what I wanted personality wise, physically, as well as in bed. We were even close to the same age.
 
Then one time together, he told me he was thinking of quitting escorting to take school seriously. I offered for him to move in with me, and I would help him with school. He was excited about the idea, and we spoke about it often over the next few weeks, and then his phone number was disconnected and he disappeared.
 
Then, he contacted me. It was 6 or 7 years later. He said he had fallen on hard times, and was wondering if the offer was still available. I told him that a lot of time had gone by, but let's meet and catch up. We arranged a dinner date next time I was in town, and he had grown a substantial pot belly, lost his hair, hadn't showered in a while, and was obviously high. He wouldn't tell me what had happened, just kept trying to get me to take him to my room so he could convince me we should move in together. I felt bad for him. I offered to help him go through rehab, and told him if he could stay clean for 6 months, we would discuss it. He got mad, called me a bunch of things, and stormed off. That was the last I heard of him.

The short answer is yes to both. It got to where he wouldnt charge me for weekends I was in town, and to me, he was exactly what I wanted personality wise, physically, as well as in bed. We were even close to the same age.
 
Then one time together, he told me he was thinking of quitting escorting to take school seriously. I offered for him to move in with me, and I would help him with school. He was excited about the idea, and we spoke about it often over the next few weeks, and then his phone number was disconnected and he disappeared.
 
Then, he contacted me. It was 6 or 7 years later. He said he had fallen on hard times, and was wondering if the offer was still available. I told him that a lot of time had gone by, but let's meet and catch up. We arranged a dinner date next time I was in town, and he had grown a substantial pot belly, lost his hair, hadn't showered in a while, and was obviously high. He wouldn't tell me what had happened, just kept trying to get me to take him to my room so he could convince me we should move in together. I felt bad for him. I offered to help him go through rehab, and told him if he could stay clean for 6 months, we would discuss it. He got mad, called me a bunch of things, and stormed off. That was the last I heard of him.

The short answer is yes to both. It got to where he wouldnt charge me for weekends I was in town, and to me, he was exactly what I wanted personality wise, physically, as well as in bed. We were even close to the same age.
 
Then one time together, he told me he was thinking of quitting escorting to take school seriously. I offered for him to move in with me, and I would help him with school. He was excited about the idea, and we spoke about it often over the next few weeks, and then his phone number was disconnected and he disappeared.
 
Then, he contacted me. It was 6 or 7 years later. He said he had fallen on hard times, and was wondering if the offer was still available. I told him that a lot of time had gone by, but let's meet and catch up. We arranged a dinner date next time I was in town, and he had grown a substantial pot belly, lost his hair, hadn't showered in a while, and was obviously high. He wouldn't tell me what had happened, just kept trying to get me to take him to my room so he could convince me we should move in together. I felt bad for him. I offered to help him go through rehab, and told him if he could stay clean for 6 months, we would discuss it. He got mad, called me a bunch of things, and stormed off. That was the last I heard of him.

The short answer is yes to both. It got to where he wouldnt charge me for weekends I was in town, and to me, he was exactly what I wanted personality wise, physically, as well as in bed. We were even close to the same age.
 
Then one time together, he told me he was thinking of quitting escorting to take school seriously. I offered for him to move in with me, and I would help him with school. He was excited about the idea, and we spoke about it often over the next few weeks, and then his phone number was disconnected and he disappeared.
 
Then, he contacted me. It was 6 or 7 years later. He said he had fallen on hard times, and was wondering if the offer was still available. I told him that a lot of time had gone by, but let's meet and catch up. We arranged a dinner date next time I was in town, and he had grown a substantial pot belly, lost his hair, hadn't showered in a while, and was obviously high. He wouldn't tell me what had happened, just kept trying to get me to take him to my room so he could convince me we should move in together. I felt bad for him. I offered to help him go through rehab, and told him if he could stay clean for 6 months, we would discuss it. He got mad, called me a bunch of things, and stormed off. That was the last I heard of him.

The short answer is yes to both. It got to where he wouldnt charge me for weekends I was in town, and to me, he was exactly what I wanted personality wise, physically, as well as in bed. We were even close to the same age.
 
Then one time together, he told me he was thinking of quitting escorting to take school seriously. I offered for him to move in with me, and I would help him with school. He was excited about the idea, and we spoke about it often over the next few weeks, and then his phone number was disconnected and he disappeared.
 
Then, he contacted me. It was 6 or 7 years later. He said he had fallen on hard times, and was wondering if the offer was still available. I told him that a lot of time had gone by, but let's meet and catch up. We arranged a dinner date next time I was in town, and he had grown a substantial pot belly, lost his hair, hadn't showered in a while, and was obviously high. He wouldn't tell me what had happened, just kept trying to get me to take him to my room so he could convince me we should move in together. I felt bad for him. I offered to help him go through rehab, and told him if he could stay clean for 6 months, we would discuss it. He got mad, called me a bunch of things, and stormed off. That was the last I heard of him.

The short answer is yes to both. It got to where he wouldnt charge me for weekends I was in town, and to me, he was exactly what I wanted personality wise, physically, as well as in bed. We were even close to the same age.
 
Then one time together, he told me he was thinking of quitting escorting to take school seriously. I offered for him to move in with me, and I would help him with school. He was excited about the idea, and we spoke about it often over the next few weeks, and then his phone number was disconnected and he disappeared.
 
Then, he contacted me. It was 6 or 7 years later. He said he had fallen on hard times, and was wondering if the offer was still available. I told him that a lot of time had gone by, but let's meet and catch up. We arranged a dinner date next time I was in town, and he had grown a substantial pot belly, lost his hair, hadn't showered in a while, and was obviously high. He wouldn't tell me what had happened, just kept trying to get me to take him to my room so he could convince me we should move in together. I felt bad for him. I offered to help him go through rehab, and told him if he could stay clean for 6 months, we would discuss it. He got mad, called me a bunch of things, and stormed off. That was the last I heard of him.

The short answer is yes to both. It got to where he wouldnt charge me for weekends I was in town, and to me, he was exactly what I wanted personality wise, physically, as well as in bed. We were even close to the same age.
 
Then one time together, he told me he was thinking of quitting escorting to take school seriously. I offered for him to move in with me, and I would help him with school. He was excited about the idea, and we spoke about it often over the next few weeks, and then his phone number was disconnected and he disappeared.
 
Then, he contacted me. It was 6 or 7 years later. He said he had fallen on hard times, and was wondering if the offer was still available. I told him that a lot of time had gone by, but let's meet and catch up. We arranged a dinner date next time I was in town, and he had grown a substantial pot belly, lost his hair, hadn't showered in a while, and was obviously high. He wouldn't tell me what had happened, just kept trying to get me to take him to my room so he could convince me we should move in together. I felt bad for him. I offered to help him go through rehab, and told him if he could stay clean for 6 months, we would discuss it. He got mad, called me a bunch of things, and stormed off. That was the last I heard of him.

Add me as well. Fratboys are my weakness.
 
As to the question, I have a couple from seeking arrangement I have a very regular relationship with. I also met a dancer at the corner pocket in Nola that I basically dated for about 6 months.

Add me as well. Fratboys are my weakness.
 
As to the question, I have a couple from seeking arrangement I have a very regular relationship with. I also met a dancer at the corner pocket in Nola that I basically dated for about 6 months.

Im just wondering if the infux of non pro competition has had any effect on escort rates?
Ive hired many times in my life, and appreciate a good escort. I also believe in you get what you pay for, but having said that, two of my greatest finds in my life have been in just the last year through seeking arrangement.
 
One of which is a young jock couple in college. One is a water polo player, the other a wrestler. I meet them at their place, they have dinner ready, we eat, cuddle on the couch for some tv, head to the bedroom where they give me a massage followed by some of the best play of my life, and they are always open to try new things. They found out a while ago that i hadnt actually tried many positions. The next time i met them, they had printed up a binder with all the different positions in them, top, bottom, 3 way, and oral, along with pictures and a description. And a special kink section in the back. Now everytime i go we try one top, one bottom, and one oral as well as variations. Once done, they have me rate each out of 10 points and mark it down for future reference. We then cuddle up, fall asleep, and in the morning they have breakfast ready along with a quicky, and send me on my way. For all that time and attention, they only want 200 per visit. I actually feel guilty and try to pay more, but they only have accepted once when their dog had some big vet bills.
Another guy i just met, we went out to dinner, headed back to my place, sat in the hot tub and had a few drinks, went in and played in the bedroom for a couple of hours. When i went to pay him and take him home, he told me i payed him way too much. He was hoping for 80. and was happy with 100. We actually argued for a bit and he settled on taking 200.
Both of these experiances rate in my top 10, actually top 3 for the couple. And yet they are a fraction of the cost of a pro with a better experience than many pros.
Ive also had guys on there who want a new laptop or car or 1000 bucks to meet, but I've found plenty of really quality guys who seem more interested in a connection over a big payout. In fact, in the latters case, he was worried a large amount would ruin the experience for me.
Its just got me wondering, with more amateur sites like that becoming available, has it impacted the business and pricing of professional escorts?

Im just wondering if the infux of non pro competition has had any effect on escort rates?
Ive hired many times in my life, and appreciate a good escort. I also believe in you get what you pay for, but having said that, two of my greatest finds in my life have been in just the last year through seeking arrangement.
 
One of which is a young jock couple in college. One is a water polo player, the other a wrestler. I meet them at their place, they have dinner ready, we eat, cuddle on the couch for some tv, head to the bedroom where they give me a massage followed by some of the best play of my life, and they are always open to try new things. They found out a while ago that i hadnt actually tried many positions. The next time i met them, they had printed up a binder with all the different positions in them, top, bottom, 3 way, and oral, along with pictures and a description. And a special kink section in the back. Now everytime i go we try one top, one bottom, and one oral as well as variations. Once done, they have me rate each out of 10 points and mark it down for future reference. We then cuddle up, fall asleep, and in the morning they have breakfast ready along with a quicky, and send me on my way. For all that time and attention, they only want 200 per visit. I actually feel guilty and try to pay more, but they only have accepted once when their dog had some big vet bills.
Another guy i just met, we went out to dinner, headed back to my place, sat in the hot tub and had a few drinks, went in and played in the bedroom for a couple of hours. When i went to pay him and take him home, he told me i payed him way too much. He was hoping for 80. and was happy with 100. We actually argued for a bit and he settled on taking 200.
Both of these experiances rate in my top 10, actually top 3 for the couple. And yet they are a fraction of the cost of a pro with a better experience than many pros.
Ive also had guys on there who want a new laptop or car or 1000 bucks to meet, but I've found plenty of really quality guys who seem more interested in a connection over a big payout. In fact, in the latters case, he was worried a large amount would ruin the experience for me.
Its just got me wondering, with more amateur sites like that becoming available, has it impacted the business and pricing of professional escorts?

Im just wondering if the infux of non pro competition has had any effect on escort rates?
Ive hired many times in my life, and appreciate a good escort. I also believe in you get what you pay for, but having said that, two of my greatest finds in my life have been in just the last year through seeking arrangement.
 
One of which is a young jock couple in college. One is a water polo player, the other a wrestler. I meet them at their place, they have dinner ready, we eat, cuddle on the couch for some tv, head to the bedroom where they give me a massage followed by some of the best play of my life, and they are always open to try new things. They found out a while ago that i hadnt actually tried many positions. The next time i met them, they had printed up a binder with all the different positions in them, top, bottom, 3 way, and oral, along with pictures and a description. And a special kink section in the back. Now everytime i go we try one top, one bottom, and one oral as well as variations. Once done, they have me rate each out of 10 points and mark it down for future reference. We then cuddle up, fall asleep, and in the morning they have breakfast ready along with a quicky, and send me on my way. For all that time and attention, they only want 200 per visit. I actually feel guilty and try to pay more, but they only have accepted once when their dog had some big vet bills.
Another guy i just met, we went out to dinner, headed back to my place, sat in the hot tub and had a few drinks, went in and played in the bedroom for a couple of hours. When i went to pay him and take him home, he told me i payed him way too much. He was hoping for 80. and was happy with 100. We actually argued for a bit and he settled on taking 200.
Both of these experiances rate in my top 10, actually top 3 for the couple. And yet they are a fraction of the cost of a pro with a better experience than many pros.
Ive also had guys on there who want a new laptop or car or 1000 bucks to meet, but I've found plenty of really quality guys who seem more interested in a connection over a big payout. In fact, in the latters case, he was worried a large amount would ruin the experience for me.
Its just got me wondering, with more amateur sites like that becoming available, has it impacted the business and pricing of professional escorts?

Ive had both experiences. I had one escort I cancelled the day before with when i realized i was catching a cold, and he freaked out. He called me relentlessly for several days telling me i still owed him. He may have tried longer, but i blocked his number.
 
On the flip side, just a few weeks ago i had to drive from pheonix to salt lake for work. After i hit the road, i thought i might as well make it a two day trip, and stop in Vegas. I checked out who was available, called, arranged what i was looking for, and booked a guy for a half night session for that night. He knew i was making a long drive, and told me to just give him a call when i got in, and he would come over. I stopped in kingman for food and fuel, which is pretty close to vegas, and shortly after was on the side of the road puking my guts out. I realized it was most likely food poisoning, and gave the escort a call. He suggested i get to the hotel, take a shower, and see if it was just a fluke, or more serious, and then update him. I did so, but was obviously in bad shape. I felt pretty bad about having to cancel with him when he was standing by, and was ready to offer to partially compensate him, but he wouldn't have it. He told me he was sorry my night in vegas was ruined, and he hoped i got feeling better before i had to hit the road again in the morning.
He was beyond gracious, as opposed to the other guy who was just an ass. I think any decent person will realize that life happens, and be willing to adapt rather than blame.

Ive had both experiences. I had one escort I cancelled the day before with when i realized i was catching a cold, and he freaked out. He called me relentlessly for several days telling me i still owed him. He may have tried longer, but i blocked his number.
 
On the flip side, just a few weeks ago i had to drive from pheonix to salt lake for work. After i hit the road, i thought i might as well make it a two day trip, and stop in Vegas. I checked out who was available, called, arranged what i was looking for, and booked a guy for a half night session for that night. He knew i was making a long drive, and told me to just give him a call when i got in, and he would come over. I stopped in kingman for food and fuel, which is pretty close to vegas, and shortly after was on the side of the road puking my guts out. I realized it was most likely food poisoning, and gave the escort a call. He suggested i get to the hotel, take a shower, and see if it was just a fluke, or more serious, and then update him. I did so, but was obviously in bad shape. I felt pretty bad about having to cancel with him when he was standing by, and was ready to offer to partially compensate him, but he wouldn't have it. He told me he was sorry my night in vegas was ruined, and he hoped i got feeling better before i had to hit the road again in the morning.
He was beyond gracious, as opposed to the other guy who was just an ass. I think any decent person will realize that life happens, and be willing to adapt rather than blame.

So I gave it a try. I started chatting with one really hot guy who is a body builder, cute face, and very reasonable in his requests. Plus he has a kinky side which I love. I couldn't get over the fact that something about him seemed familiar however, so I hesitated on pulling the trigger, and never gave too much information about myself just incase. We've been chatting for a while now, and he's getting more eager, saying he needs some money for the holidays. I finally convinced myself I was being paranoid, and scheduled a date. Our date is Monday. Last night I went to a business Christmas party, and he was there. He's my old mentors grandson. I guess that puts an end to that.

I just told him that circumstances had changed and I was no longer available for meeting. I wished him luck, and he was very understanding.

So I gave it a try. I started chatting with one really hot guy who is a body builder, cute face, and very reasonable in his requests. Plus he has a kinky side which I love. I couldn't get over the fact that something about him seemed familiar however, so I hesitated on pulling the trigger, and never gave too much information about myself just incase. We've been chatting for a while now, and he's getting more eager, saying he needs some money for the holidays. I finally convinced myself I was being paranoid, and scheduled a date. Our date is Monday. Last night I went to a business Christmas party, and he was there. He's my old mentors grandson. I guess that puts an end to that.

I just told him that circumstances had changed and I was no longer available for meeting. I wished him luck, and he was very understanding.

It's not so much a need for discretion, as it is for respect for the grandpa. This nice older mormon guy went out of his way to help me in the business twenty years ago, setting me up with knowledge and contacts that have made me very successful. I don't feel I would be repaying his kindness by using the success he handed me for hireing his grandson for sex. Not that he judges me, and I don't judge the grandsons actions, it's just not an arrangement that would sit well with a man I really do respect, so it's off the table. Its too bad too, the guy is really hot.

It's not so much a need for discretion, as it is for respect for the grandpa. This nice older mormon guy went out of his way to help me in the business twenty years ago, setting me up with knowledge and contacts that have made me very successful. I don't feel I would be repaying his kindness by using the success he handed me for hireing his grandson for sex. Not that he judges me, and I don't judge the grandsons actions, it's just not an arrangement that would sit well with a man I really do respect, so it's off the table. Its too bad too, the guy is really hot.

So I gave it a try. I started chatting with one really hot guy who is a body builder, cute face, and very reasonable in his requests. Plus he has a kinky side which I love. I couldn't get over the fact that something about him seemed familiar however, so I hesitated on pulling the trigger, and never gave too much information about myself just incase. We've been chatting for a while now, and he's getting more eager, saying he needs some money for the holidays. I finally convinced myself I was being paranoid, and scheduled a date. Our date is Monday. Last night I went to a business Christmas party, and he was there. He's my old mentors grandson. I guess that puts an end to that.

I'm just booking my tickets for Sundance this year at the end of January. Last year was a blast with some amazing escorts and experiences. I was wondering who's planning on going this year.

Yeah, I ended up going with Kai and Billy together. I exaggerated when I said half the price, but still, the two of them together were cheaper and more time than what I got at swinging Richard's.
I dont remember the dancers name at swinging Richard's. He was blond, mid 20's, well built but not over the top, and had good moves and a killer smile on the stage. Too bad he was such a rip off and I was such a sucker. And I'm not new to clubs either. I've spent a good deal 9f time at the corner pocket in New Orleans, and a lot of time at Adonis in NYC, I was excited to add swinging Richard's to my list.

I was there this summer for my first time. It was mid week, the club was slow. I got there around 11. The dick dollars thing was confusing, and the guy didnt explain it well. Finally a very hot guy came on who gave me a lot of attention and invited me to join him in the VIP room. He indicated to me that if I did I would leave happy. I was surprised by the 100 fee, and they weren't clear how long that would get me. I paid it, we went back, and he spent a little while trying to talk me into buying a bottle of Champaign for the two of us. When I said no, he told me that my 15 minutes were up, and i had to pay another 100. I hadn't even gotten a dance. He promised if i did, i would get off, so i did. He then told me that we only had 15 minutes, but if i slipped the VIP guy a 200 tip, he wouldn't interrupt us again being that it was a slow night. This guy was really hot and i wanted what he lead me to believe would be as much time as i wanted. He told me to give him the cash, and he would negotiate the booth. He came back a minute later, and told me now that we had time, let's chat for a minute. He did dance as we chatted but he didn't touch me and told me I wasn't allowed to touch him yet. In another 15 minutes, the VIP lounge guy told us time was up. The dancer told me to give him a minute to sort it out, and came back saying things had picked up and we couldn't keep the booth past what was allowed. At this time I felt I had been scammed, I was out 400, and basically watched the guy dance for 15 minutes. I went to leave, and the dancer told me that I still owed him. I asked what the 400 was for, and he told me that all went to the tip and the house. I told him I had to buy more dick dollars, and he told me that those dont apply to private dances, private dances are cash. I was really frustrated at this point, and then he told me that I owed him 400. I about freaked out. I mentioned that he should have said something before we headed back, and that for that money I should have gotten what was promised. He called for a bouncer, and I gave him 200 so I could leave without any problems. So what amounted to a 15 minute dance i could have watched on the stage, and 15 minutes of telling him I didn't want a drink, cost me 600. I went to my hotel room, found a guy available on rentmen, and had a great time with him for half the price.
Basically, if you do go, make sure you know how it works or you will get heavily taken advantage of.

I was there this summer for my first time. It was mid week, the club was slow. I got there around 11. The dick dollars thing was confusing, and the guy didnt explain it well. Finally a very hot guy came on who gave me a lot of attention and invited me to join him in the VIP room. He indicated to me that if I did I would leave happy. I was surprised by the 100 fee, and they weren't clear how long that would get me. I paid it, we went back, and he spent a little while trying to talk me into buying a bottle of Champaign for the two of us. When I said no, he told me that my 15 minutes were up, and i had to pay another 100. I hadn't even gotten a dance. He promised if i did, i would get off, so i did. He then told me that we only had 15 minutes, but if i slipped the VIP guy a 200 tip, he wouldn't interrupt us again being that it was a slow night. This guy was really hot and i wanted what he lead me to believe would be as much time as i wanted. He told me to give him the cash, and he would negotiate the booth. He came back a minute later, and told me now that we had time, let's chat for a minute. He did dance as we chatted but he didn't touch me and told me I wasn't allowed to touch him yet. In another 15 minutes, the VIP lounge guy told us time was up. The dancer told me to give him a minute to sort it out, and came back saying things had picked up and we couldn't keep the booth past what was allowed. At this time I felt I had been scammed, I was out 400, and basically watched the guy dance for 15 minutes. I went to leave, and the dancer told me that I still owed him. I asked what the 400 was for, and he told me that all went to the tip and the house. I told him I had to buy more dick dollars, and he told me that those dont apply to private dances, private dances are cash. I was really frustrated at this point, and then he told me that I owed him 400. I about freaked out. I mentioned that he should have said something before we headed back, and that for that money I should have gotten what was promised. He called for a bouncer, and I gave him 200 so I could leave without any problems. So what amounted to a 15 minute dance i could have watched on the stage, and 15 minutes of telling him I didn't want a drink, cost me 600. I went to my hotel room, found a guy available on rentmen, and had a great time with him for half the price.
Basically, if you do go, make sure you know how it works or you will get heavily taken advantage of.