newdad

On 2/20/2024 at 9:05 PM, Saabster said:

You can try messaging him on RM. That seems to be the only option.

The profile is gone now, today at least.

Who's the most memorable bottom you've encountered (regardless if it was an escort encounter or not), and what made the encounter memorable for you?

Thanks for sharing. Wish I saw this while I was still in the Philippines. I got a question: How would you describe the guys there?

Update: As my previous post says, I was fortunate enough to be getting Grindr hookups, which prevented me from exploring bathhouses mostly. However, I was determined to explore the LGBTQ culture in Tokyo—specifically 24 Kaikan because everyone online has been saying it's the gay batthouse to check out. Disclaimer: I went there on a weeknight, which is not the busiest time of the week, so this post is limited to that experience. To say the least, the entire place didn't have too many people. Probably there were about 12 to 24 guys there during my stay.

So where do I start?—I guess, we start at the 2nd floor where the entrance is (1st floor is parking for the building). Interestingly enough, you'll have to use 2 lockers. The first locker (which will cost you 10 Yen coin) is for you to store your shoes since it's a culture in Japan (and most asian countries) to remove your shoes. After stowing the shoes away, you go to the front desk to pay and be given a bag with a robe and towels along with a key for your actual locker. It cost 3900 Yen for me because I went after 9PM (It's 3300 Yen if before 9PM).

First thing I explored was the 3rd floor, which I will call the wet section (eg, hot tubs, steam room, sauna, shower room, etc.). The 2 dry saunas there have really good heat compared to the US ones I've gone to (specifically Club San Diego since I went there not too long ago). There were about 3 hot tubs—which I did not dip myself into. There was also a steam room—I did not stay too long because it was really hard to see, plus with it being a weeknight, no one was pretty much there. There was also a some kind of dungeon room that had BDSM leather swing/seat that bottom could be on (I'm sure you've seen this type of apparatus in other sex clubs). No one was using it of course because there weren't many people. The only places on this floor that were being used were hot tubs, dry saunas, and the shower/rinsing area that had seats and a vanity mirror (weird, I know).

The 4th floor was the—for a lack of a better term—sleeping areas. Most guys here were wearing the blue robes that were given at check-in. This is something not comparable to the USA bathhouses because it's literally sleeping areas. There were 2 big rooms (common areas) that had about 4 bunk beds and one big low-profile japanese bed (which is basically huge futon that is on the floor) that could fit about a dozen people. These low-profile japanese beds is where the action is happening because it allowed for guys to be near each other. Some of the guys were feigning sleeping, which I think was cue to invite other guys to give them blowjobs or be touched (If I were compare this to the USA version, it's like going to the bathhouse and you see a guy with a mask, face down, ass up in the common area basically inviting other guys). There was also a 3rd big room that only had the big lowprofile beds only (ie, no bunk beds), and in it were japanese porn being played—yes, the genital were blurred/pixelated staying true to the classic Japanese porn.

The 5th and 6th floors were mainly for private rooms. And the 7th floor, which was the rooftop, was closed because it was raining outside that night.

As for the type of guys that were there that night, I'd say about 70% to 80% were Japanese, while the rest were foreigners like blacks, indians, and east Asians that were non-Japanese. And as always, bathhouses are accessible for any guys who could pay to get in, and this one was like that. One thing that I noticed that most guys looked younger than the ones in the USA bathhouses (heck, I didn't even see anyone with grey hair); however, since they're asians, it was hard to gauge their actual age. Only one guy I found attractive because he was fit, but unfortunately, he was also a top per his Grindr profile. I didn't partake to any of the festivities because I wasn't particularly horny (and the guy I found attractive was also a top), but like I said, my main goal was to check out 24 Kaikan which is like an emblem of the LGBTQ culture in Shinjuku—I guess part of me was trying to see the gay culture in Japan.

EDIT: pardon any typo. no grammar check or anything here.

44 minutes ago, FrankR said:

It’s late. We need pizza!

Don't forget to tip the pizza guy!

1 hour ago, pubic_assistance said:

who I am attracted to,

So no tip in cases where you get a happy ending but you didn't find the masseur attractive?

On 2/20/2024 at 9:49 PM, Typical said:

Ha. Exactly.  When I buy bread I don’t think, gee, I should pay more because they had to build an oven. That implicit in the price. 

My doctor must rent an office and pay a staff. Should I tip him?  No: He charges for that in his fee. And so does your masseur. 

But, again, it’s your money. Give as much of it away as you like.   

That's an awesome example! I guess you ain't tipping your doctors and nurses for their job well done in saving your life because having a good massage is more important than saving your life. 

10 minutes ago, MmM said:

You're assuming they're looking for a hot client. They could just be screening for unkempt, unhygienic clients.  

That is true that they may not be screening for hot clients. But people will usually at least comb their hair before taking a video call or when they send pics it's their best looking pics, so it's hard to judge hygiene based on looks. Odor is the best indicator if poor hygiene, which is not transmitted on a video call or pics.

1 hour ago, MmM said:

Unfortunately, some people feel entitled; that because they are paying, the provider does not have the right to say no to the client because of how they look. I understand it sucks to be rejected this way, but wouldn't you wanna know before you actually meet and have an awful encounter, and save time and money? Now, if your concern is discretion, then that's a valid reason. 

Providers reject clients because of looks when they see them in person?! That sounds like they're looking for a Grindr match whilst getting paid, and not really escorting. I guess people nowadays just want to have their cake and eat it too.

5 hours ago, Zimby said:

A tip is "to insure proper service."

I guess, there are different philosophies to go by, and each person/client has to operate on what they're comfortable with. I totally understand clients who would want to ensure proper service, so they tip the masseur.

On the other hand, I can also understand that there are clients who expect a good massage irrespective of the tip as long as the asked rate was met. And should the masseur provide a mediocre massage due to lack of tips, these clients will be happy to take their business elsewhere.

There's no right or wrong along as everything is done respectfully. They're just different philosophies.

Yes, I'm in Tokyo this week. I specifically got a hotel that's in Shinjuku, which is where they gayborhood is supposed to be. My hotel is also within walking distance from 24 Kaikan. However, since I've been here, I've been getting matches from Grindr that I couldn't say no to and I've been drained daily so far. Hence, The load and/or urge to go to 24 Kaikan has been gone. I'm starting to accept the fate that I may not end up in 24 Kaikan for this trip, but we'll see if this holds true since I still got a few days left.

As a top, I'd only share a bottom with another top if he's pretty much the same size as mine or smaller. I don't want the hole getting too stretched out for me.

10 hours ago, GlamNYC said:

And he regularly sends me the sweetest text messages even if he’s not in NYC. Can’t wait to see him again soon. 

sounds like someone's in love.

51 minutes ago, Hyattsville said:

I believe that if you want continued great service (or increasingly better) service, tipping is a wise choice. I was chatting about tips with a local masseur who was honest that while everyone gets a great base massage, those who tip regularly get better service with scheduling preference and "extras" on the table. Just keep that in mind. 

I think this goes back to the comment above by @OZP on whether the masseur and business owner are the same person. Traditionally in the USA, tips go to the waiters as their wages (sadly) and the business owners get the payment for food. Similarly for local masseurs who don't own their businesses, they get tips while their employers the the full payment for the massage. Now for those Masseurs on RentMasseurs or RentMen, that would be different because they're both the business owner and masseur. And if they're trying to provide bad service because you didn't tip them last time despite them getting the full advertised payment, I'd be happy to switch masseurs.

17 hours ago, mystery_man said:

On a recent trip, one of my colleagues referred to at as "Disneyland for Adults". 

Was he referring to 24 Kaikan specifically?

4 hours ago, BenjaminNicholas said:

Baths (onsen) and sex clubs are two very different things in Asia.  Make sure you realize that and behave accordingly.

 

Where does bathhouse fall under between those two?

15 minutes ago, BaronArtz said:

If it is sensual massage and the fee is 180-200 I give tips ranging from 20 to 40.  If there is any fully interactive play time involved I pay a total of 300 because it was an escort session really.  I don't expect an escort experience at a massage rate.  I never have a problem getting multiple repeats and nobody has complained about my tips.

The above is for 60 minutes, incalls in NYC.

If it becomes an escort session (ie, $300), do you still tip from 20 to 40?

28 minutes ago, liubit said:

Try Romeo and Hunqz, @newdad  I live in HK and guys use them here. 

Good to know! Thank you! 🙏

On 2/17/2024 at 2:24 AM, Maldivesny said:

I like Senso   That is my go to each year I visit.  

What makes it good?

23 hours ago, Vegas_Millennial said:

What time of year are you planning to visit Tokyo?

This coming week 

On 9/9/2023 at 11:05 PM, Harryinny said:

Hot guy, great body, god looking, the right amount of fur…wonder if he bottoms, yummm

His profile says Top Only. I'd like to see him bottom though.

Anyone else has updates on this guy recently? And can anyone confirm the breath? I'd assume he'd seen a dentist by now.

10 hours ago, goosh69 said:

What’s sad are nights in both NY and LA when zero headliners show up, and the best looking guys by FAR are like 1-3 of the patrons.

Has anyone asked patrons if they'd want to make money instead? lol

22 minutes ago, goosh69 said:

Ain’t nobody want the clients to be nude!!!!

I'd pay for other clients to keep their clothes on please.

7 hours ago, BonVivant said:

His OF is all about him smashing and impregnating lil Asian chicks. lol. 

well, he needs to post an Asian ladyboy impregnating him. How the turn tables.