SecretProvider

I ask clients to tell me about themselves, but that is more for ice breaking and so I am aware of what I am getting into. While a photo is appreciated, for me it's never required. That said, it irritates me when I arrive and I am greeted with someone who is 500lbs or has a Santa Claus type beard. Once I arrived and the client was in a wheelchair. Not that I wouldn't see them , but I need to mentally prepare. Those that require pics are new to the game, and/or concerned they will not be able to perform. Doesn't mean they are bad providers, it does take time to cultivate the skill and it can initially be quite jarring to be intimate with someone you are not physically attracted to. snapchat/whatsapp/instagram are good for being able to send disappearing messages but a good quality provider will not ask for pics. A good confident client will send them anyway.

I find providers do this if they are planning a trip a few weeks in advance. Do you mind letting us know where you are? If it is a smaller city it can be that they are testing the waters and when not enough people apply they choose to go somewhere more lucrative.

I agree with everything the providers have said here, with the exception that we don't advertise here - every post here is an advertisement and a work of PR. Intentionally or not. I started this moniker after long time reading posts and thinking - what if I contribute and said out loud what we are thinking without the restrictions of worrying how it will affect my brand? And so many questions on threads are asked, where to me the answer seems so obvious. I wanted to participate and not be burdened by having to PR manage myself. For eg. One thread asked 'Would providers would prefer a nice time with a booking, or a tip'. Well, we like both, but if we had to pick one, I replied we would prefer a tip. What followed was someone admonishing me 'instead of wanting a tip why don't you just raise your price' I replied - "well, because that wasn't an option in the question that was posed." He replied "you didn't answer my question and you are not a moderator so BUZZ OFF'. How lovely. So this ignited another curiosity - what would be the result if I spit the same venom back at the people who post it here so regularly? Would it make people sit back and think 'oh this is how i sound?' Would I get pleasure ticking them off? (how many times, in ANY industry, have we wished we could tell a customer or collegue how silly we think they are. There is not one person in the world who hasn't wished they could tell their boss to go suck it.) The experiment was doomed to fail because we are all our own hero in our own story and it often went straight over their heads. I never posted a mean comment unless it was in reply, yet the vitriol comes at me in spades. One time I even copy/pasted a comment they themselves had previously made and the person still never realized this but were of course- incredibly offended. There has also definitely been an element of 'you don't even go here!'. 'A real provider would NEVER think this!' 'My paid friends told me so, so you must be lying!' I have received some private messages of encouragement though so I guess it balances out in the end? Anyway - I am not surprised more providers haven't participated. You just need to read the threads and see the way providers are spoken about to see why. I can't say it better than people who are providers already have. SIDE NOTE- My real life experiences with clients are for the most part, incredibly lovely. 99% of the people I actually meet are fantastic. I have had some really special and intimate moments, helped people through hard and personal times in their lives in a way that only a provider can. I have had some incredible sex with clients and even with actual porn stars, travelled to cities I otherwise would not been able to. I have clients that have become good friends. Sometimes in my head I say "man i am so lucky, I would do this for free!" I work hard and I look after myself but I am blessed that I am also attractive enough to be in the industry. I don't ever forget that, and that I am lucky and am grateful. I am not arrogant about the fact that I get to do this. I don't walk around thinking 'i deserve this'. The experience of real life compared to this forum is like night and day. There IS a reason more of us don't post. If people want that to change, some people here should really think about how they contribute to that.... or even dare I say it: why some of us only post anonymously?

oh they don't see the irony at all in condemning the behavior that they themselves are actively engaging in. If anonymity = suspicious, then he is equally so. But he's positioning himself as somehow more legitimate, which makes it veer further from amusingly ironic to just downright hypocritical - not to mention it doesn't hold up logically. In any case: it was a barely interesting shot from another anonymous account. Meh. Let him post his LinkedIn account here, then we will talk.

Ignore it, then it becomes truth. Defend it, and have asinine comments like this. Dammed if you do, Dammed if you don't. So many assumptions made about the PNP on a profile- does it mean he likes to drink? Does it mean he doesn't mind if you parTy but he himself does not. Does it mean he likes to light up a joint but nothing harder? Well, you know what they say about assumptions right? Having said that, I'm pretty confident that when I make the assumption that you would also be similarly upset if you had a performance review posted on a notice board at your work place for all your colleagues and clients to see (which is what this site essentially is) that said you were a drug addict. Then when you rebut it you were accused of clutching your pearls with comments like yours above, it would probably further upset you. The thing about throwing mud is: it sticks. That is why trolls do it- they are like pigs, or dare I even say it: CLOWNS. @JacOB SESSION - You are not wrong for being upset. Anyone would be. Trolls are awful. There can be a 99 people in a room saying great things - but then one person makes a nasty snide comment and it suddenly becomes the loudest. I'd encourage you to delete this particular thread so when potential clients search you up here they don't read all this nonsense. However the advice to remove PNP from your profile is also sound. I find clients searching for PNP play have no issue asking you if you indulge whether it is on your profile or not, which gives you the chance to clarify your level of comfort in that area when they do. When lies are posted it is easy for people to say 'just ignore it', and it is hard to not react emotionally. We are effectively a small business, and false negative reviews have devastating and disproportionate consequences for us. To clarify - What may seem to some on this board as a silly throw away comment that took zero energy to make can mean we no longer can pay our rent, and stays up in perpetuity which feels particularly unfair when the comment is not true. My advice is to take a breath, and reply with factual statements and not opinions. ( for eg. "i am versatile and provide bottoming and topping for my clients." instead of defending your feelings on power bottoming/bottom shaming.) After that you make this type of statement- which i think you did a pretty good job of anyway - then leave it be. Like all trolls, monsters or CLOWNS the more you feed them the fatter and uglier they become. And like most pigs, they actually enjoy rolling in shit and getting fat. Never wrestle with a pig. You both get dirty and the pig likes it. Sit above it and be clean.

Wrong. Client's who don't waste my time, and actually HIRE me - we have a great time. There has never been a post that I have complained about clients I have actually spent time with. Once again - this thread is not about CLIENTS. it is about people who view profiles and get blocked. Someone asked why it happens - I reply : because it's annoying. These people are not clients - Client's are people who have hired. If you are doing this - you are not a client, you are not paying, so you can have a FULL REFUND if that makes you feel better.

Because in your OP you are suggesting that providers should give clients their time for "relatively free". I don't know how long you have been in the game, but 'companionship only' time is quite often more strenuous than a sexual event. it can be very taxing. After posting this, clients will be reaching out to providers and saying "well you should be spending all night with me because I hired you for one hour for sex and now I want someone to go to dinner with, and a walk through the park with etc etc. and Elite said it should be free." I charge for my time, and what we do in that time is up to the client. My hourly rate decreases for longer bookings.

don't ask questions if you don't want an answer. I am telling you: it's annoying.

here is the thing - if you look at pages 100 times and you don't book, you are NOT a client, and you will never become a good client. Advertising research suggests that when someone has viewed a webpage only business 10 times, this is the most likely time that would convert to a sale. SO going over this by ten times the amount shows it is never going to happen. I would feel annoyed. How would a restaurant feel if a customer came in and dined once, then come back every day and just looked at the menu.

100% strange which is why I sense he is not telling the full story.

I would never see a client who leaves providers 4 star reviews. bad reviews are fine - I have never got a one star review, but I imagine they only are given out when warranted. But if someone was leaving 4 star reviews, it massively and disproportionately impacts my business - it brings down the average rating and takes YEARS to build back up. a lot of people search and see only 5 star reviewed providers. Leaving a 4 star review is really damaging and shows you to be an overly fussy client who would be hard to please.

I block people I have not met if they view my profile 100s of times and never book. And I also block people who reach out three times and don't book.

I've had clients book overnights and get me to sleep in separate bed - mostly because they either snored./used a CPAP machine, or slept with tv/radio on (which I can not do) WE still snuggled until it was sleeping time and then in morning catch up again as soon as we wake. re: your fetish, I have had a client who specifically had a "free use' kink and wanted to be able to enter me when ever he wanted - including while I was sleeping and we consented to it first. To each their own.

do you mind if I ask how many providers you have reached out to? I'm just curious.

you are not speaking for all escorts and you are not putting yourself in the best light here. You have mentioned that 'even nice young and good looking' clients are paying your rates, which suggests that people who do not fit into that category will not get the same price or service from you - which is a sure sign of a bad provider, and I would assume that many clients do NOT fit in that category who read this will be disinclined to hire you. so great job there! Just state your price and if it doesn't fit the clients budget, wish them well in their search. Arguing here like this is not making you, or us, look good.

yeah I have had friends have charges reversed on the apps after the booking was done. I am lucky that that has not yet happened to me.

what made 2012 so successful?

Yes but lawyers and doctors have back to back clients, 10-12 hours a day. A lot of providers inflate how busy they are and how many bookings they have (even amongst each other) but none of them have 8 bookings a day, back to back. None.

I NEVER SAID THAT! I said the other guy was simply better looking! 😜 I eat well, work out and get hit on regularly when I am out. Thanks for the kind words. However compliments will not encourage me to reveal myself (today). I like being able to finally comment here and speak openly and honestly and give a perspective that providers who do contribute are not able to. The input has not always been well received. I completely agree and in my personal life I tend to go for non model types also.

This is true for me - I charged less, and under market rates when I started. It wasn't until I did a booking with another provider who was more experienced and objectively much better looking than I, and as we left we walked and talked for a bit. When he learned I had been paid 150 less than him he took the money out of his wallet and gave me some of his money to make it so we both earned the same amount for the job and said "don't charge less than market rate. you ARE good looking enough. I have seen you work, you are worth it." I explained I thought I would also get less clients, and he said "Yes, you may lose some clients, but the ones who scrimp and bargain are always the worst clients anyway. And the amount extra you get by charging the market rate will make up for it." I took his advice and I have found it to be sound.

no. I wouldn't cut the time short either. the time starts when the client arrives.

its true most providers would never sleep with clients unless there was a financial incentive. That is the reality. However a good provider will make you feel wanted. That ability is what separates the men from the boys.

You gave a gift with expectations, which is never a good thing to do. He is not out clubbing and partying. 30 min late when he was WITH FAMLY AT CHRISTMAS is not a big deal.

this is 'bang on the money'. wise words.