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The Go fund me has raised over 50k. Just because people haven't commented on your thread doesn't mean they haven't donated.

For a first time meet - It is good manners to leave the money out where they can see it. They will see it and not take it till the session is over. After the first session you pay after.

I have had both bought for me. Either is fine. A business class flight is appreciated but not required. If the trip is for more than a weekend I will need to have carry on bag added not just the overnight personal item sized bag - thats all. If a guy is going to miss out on a booking like that because he is demanding business class flight, find someone else.

this is not Hendrick.

No provider has teeth like that bro. Be real.

I do kiss my clients. I have to say though, sometimes clients will ask you 'do you kiss?', and you confirm you do and then when they arrive they have literal rotten teeth expecting you to passionately put your tongue in their mouth.

Helpful hint - BE SPECIFIC. What side activity? Asking for something vague/ambiguous is not going to help you. It is as helpful as pissing in the wind.

3k for overnight is a lot. Also being in philly - many NYC providers will jump on a Amtrak and travel to Philly for an overnight, so keep that in mind.

I think the biggest difference is when you are checking out websites to buy a suitcase you are not ( i am assuming) jerking off and messaging the store to ask about how the suitcase feels, does it like to be put in cabin or the hold, asking them for more pics of it... Which is a playful way for me to say our numbers are going to be harder because there is a (larger than you all think) portion of the client base who is perfectly satisfied by browsing and interaction without ever an intention to purchase than most other products. There really is no comparison, but we make do with the information we have best we can!

The only thing I will add here is this: I was genuinely shocked when I looked at the stats of how many people view my add, to then compare it with how many sent me a message, to then how many actually made a booking. The conversion rate was shockingly low in comparison. Despite the way I bite back here, I am always polite, prompt and friendly to my inquires, and I have a almost 1.5 % conversion rate. And I am not without work, we all have busy and quiet moments, but work always averages out in a steady pace. I did a bit of quick AI research and was pleased to see 1% is actually not bad at all. Note - These stats are from VIEWS not rehires from regulars (which is where the bread and butter clients come from)

OK so delete the messages or reach out to admin and ask for them to be deleted. A good example of how careful people must be when publicly publishing damaging stuff like that. And to be straight up lying 'just to hurt' a provider - jesus christ. It never fucking ends with the shit we deal with EVERY DAY.

It's poor form to post them publicly, as they may differ in differing cities taking into account hotel/travel, incall or outcall, for clients who do want different things. Best practice is to DM someone, or for the most accurate advice on rate - as the provider.

I think he was shocked and was trying to get his money back before the guy left. People have fight or flight responses in the moment. Don't be so judgmental. @fjntimes001 Sorry this happened to you my dude. Thanks for sharing.

I have accepted amazon gift card as deposit from a client who lived abroad and was traveling to my city, as a non American electronic payments like venmo and cashapp were not available to him. I wouldn't accept it as payment for service as there you need to load it to your amazon account before you can verify it is valid card. There wouldn't be much to stop "client' giving you a used card as he leaves. With the deposit i was able to just receive the code.

you are going to have to book an overnight and get someone to travel to you.

Get an add on rentmen, get an add on craiglist. Have real pics, Show up on time, do a good job, make them want you back.

I think most providers wouldn't care about this, with the proviso that your initial message has a bit of substance - eg. Hi my name is John, I like your profile and am looking at a bottom on friday at 6pm in midtown. Do you mind sharing your rates and a face pic?" , as opposed to "face pic?' I think the argument could be made that the inverse is more likely to be true- those with everything out there will put your information out there too with little thought.

Yes it exists. Behave so you don't get mentioned on it.

*break my coffee table*

#1 is the correct answer. #2 - ONLY if within a very strict time frame (Hello, i am looking for someone to do an outcall to (insert location) at 6pm tonight, I am in town for tonight only and I am looking to do XYZ" This way if we don't get the message in time it saves us hassle, we can reply 'sorry i missed you' or focus on enquires that offer more ROI. How is it different with providers? To answer the last part specifically - it is different because we are not fielding regular business enquiries. We are inundated with people who are literally jerking off while they message us, people who are getting off pranking us, people who are messaging with ZERO intention to hire. No one is calling a carpenter or electrician and jacking off when they ask them about their availability and costs. That's not even taking into account the amount of scammers that reach out to us almost daily pretending to be clients, stringing us along until we realize they are Nigerian princes who want TEXT buddies (iykyk) IF YOU ARE NOT DOING THIS SO DON'T GET OFFENDED WHEN I SAY THIS. please understand that there is a lot of people who do!

You get today's gold star with comprehension skills and commonsense award! ⭐ You lose 0.05 points for this. "Us" just meant "providers". That's all.

yeah be careful bro. I had some loser report me when he reached out on grinder and I politely declined but said 'I can be swayed if you are generous'. He got offended and I got a final warning.

Thank you. I have no issue doing this with regulars - but just FYI for the OP and other people reading this - we get messages saying "hey I am looking for XYZ, if you can give me a discount I will see be your regular!" and you can be sure as shit, they will NOT in fact become a regular and they just use this as a carrot to dangle to try and get reduced rates. Don't reach out trying to negotiate cheap rates. Asking a regular is very different thing. Please understand that! No provider will give a upfront discount. You need to show that you will be a regular to get that privilege. (like seeing someone 10 times then getting one free like someone above mentioned! great idea!)

I have had a regular who said he wants to see me more but can't afford it, so I reduced my rate to 250 and he now sees me weekly. In order to get discounts like this - you would need to be a regular first. To be clear, that would be to see someone more than 4-5 times.