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UPDATE by OP
Well, we're still at it ... still in love and living together half a world apart! Have been spending somewhat longer times together ... 2 weeks at a time,more or less, as often as possible. He's just finished his long-term obligations on the other side of the world, and now has more freedom to move around. Unfortunately, my/our original idea for him to come to the U.S. so we could live together is out the window, thanks to the current U.S. political situation. It's infuriating ... he's from a Latin American country, and the risks of him getting snatched/incarcerated/deported for no reason seem too high right now for both of us. So we're looking to establish residence together abroad. It will be interesting  indeed to see how things develop over the next few months.

Yeah ... I would say this is more about relationship logistic issues than politics.
The issue in  our case isn't so much "being" here, but getting INto the country. I've spoken with immigration lawyers and, of course, thousands of non-citizens come and go all the time with no problem. The issue seems to be that if someone arrives and encounters an agent who either got up on the wrong side of bed, or hasn't reached their quota yet, things could get troublesome. One lawyer told me in no uncertain terms that under current circumstances, if we Do plan for him to come here, NOT to say anything about getting married, because then they will NOT let him in. (From her experience.) And of course, if they grab someone for no good reason, they refuse to admit error, and instead conjure up a criminal record out of nothing. 
That said, you are 100% CORRECT about the bureaucracy in many destinations, ... especially some EU countries! The paperwork and glacially slow process of getting even the simplest, most basic paperwork processed is both mind-blowing and infuriating. (Like, you can't open a bank account without a solid local address ... and you can't buy property or sign a long-term lease without a bank account!) Which is why we haven't done that yet ... and won't, unless/until we feel we need to certify/verify our relationship for other reasons and have no other choice.

Yeah ... I would say this is more about relationship logistic issues than politics.
The issue in  our case isn't so much "being" here, but getting INto the country. I've spoken with immigration lawyers and, of course, thousands of non-citizens come and go all the time with no problem. The issue seems to be that if someone arrives and encounters an agent who either got up on the wrong side of bed, or hasn't reached their quota yet, things could get troublesome. One lawyer told me in no uncertain terms that under current circumstances, if we Do plan for him to come here, NOT to say anything about getting married, because then they will NOT let him in. (From her experience.) And of course, if they grab someone for no good reason, they refuse to admit error, and instead conjure up a criminal record out of nothing. 
That said, you are 100% CORRECT about the bureaucracy in many destinations, ... especially some EU countries! The paperwork and glacially slow process of getting even the simplest, most basic paperwork processed is both mind-blowing and infuriating. (Like, you can't open a bank account without a solid local address ... and you can't buy property or sign a long-term lease without a bank account!) Which is why we haven't done that yet ... and won't, unless/until we feel we need to certify/verify our relationship for other reasons and have no other choice.

I'm almost 60 and only reason I  haven't retired yet is I have great 100% company paid health insurance and am on a coupel very expensive maintenance meds.   If I were to get married I could go under the husband's health insurance    They are also protected for things like Death and disability insurance.   and if one makes a lot more than the other they can draw off their SS or if one has a pension and the other SS that helps out.   Also for 401K and IRAs there's a lot of tax advantages if it's a spouse

Even if the guy was older than me, I'd insist on a prenup at my age.   And if I outlive my mom, I'd like to protect her assets as well that I inherit and would have them in a separate account with the charities she had for the contingent if I don't need to spend it to go to those charities on my death instead of the husband's family.

We cant discuss politics here.
But on the subject of immigration. In spite of what you may be reading in the media, being appropriately documented does NOT put you at risk of "being snatched". I live in NYC and know multiple people who are at varying stages of immigration paperwork. None of them feel "at risk", because they have their papers in order. 
That said...immigration law, in the United States, IS somewhat complicated to navigate and therefore mistakes CAN be made. So establishing your marriage overseas is one way of preventing errors but then you are merely landing into the same complications of expat life in another country. Choose wisely because certain destinations are actually MORE complicated and bureaucratic for extended stays and then you BOTH end up with problems !

UPDATE by OP
Well, we're still at it ... still in love and living together half a world apart! Have been spending somewhat longer times together ... 2 weeks at a time,more or less, as often as possible. He's just finished his long-term obligations on the other side of the world, and now has more freedom to move around. Unfortunately, my/our original idea for him to come to the U.S. so we could live together is out the window, thanks to the current U.S. political situation. It's infuriating ... he's from a Latin American country, and the risks of him getting snatched/incarcerated/deported for no reason seem too high right now for both of us. So we're looking to establish residence together abroad. It will be interesting  indeed to see how things develop over the next few months.

UPDATE by OP
Well, we're still at it ... still in love and living together half a world apart! Have been spending somewhat longer times together ... 2 weeks at a time,more or less, as often as possible. He's just finished his long-term obligations on the other side of the world, and now has more freedom to move around. Unfortunately, my/our original idea for him to come to the U.S. so we could live together is out the window, thanks to the current U.S. political situation. It's infuriating ... he's from a Latin American country, and the risks of him getting snatched/incarcerated/deported for no reason seem too high right now for both of us. So we're looking to establish residence together abroad. It will be interesting  indeed to see how things develop over the next few months.

Hi!  I'm a widower (husband of 30+ years died 6 years ago) who has been long-distance dating a guy 40 years younger than me (72>32) for just over 2 years. He seems genuinely interested in me .. to the extent that we've occasionally discussed the possibility of marriage. I find him wildly attractive in a number of ways - he's handsome, tall, broad-shouldered, incredibly intelligent, totally sweet, and loves to cuddle (in addition to making love). I'm going to be spending a couple of weeks with him later this month, and I'd love any advice/pointers/experiences that you (or any other posters who can speak from experience) might have. Anyone who would like to is welcome to PM/DM me. Thanks!

UPDATE by OP
Well, we're still at it ... still in love and living together half a world apart! Have been spending somewhat longer times together ... 2 weeks at a time,more or less, as often as possible. He's just finished his long-term obligations on the other side of the world, and now has more freedom to move around. Unfortunately, my/our original idea for him to come to the U.S. so we could live together is out the window, thanks to the current U.S. political situation. It's infuriating ... he's from a Latin American country, and the risks of him getting snatched/incarcerated/deported for no reason seem too high right now for both of us. So we're looking to establish residence together abroad. It will be interesting  indeed to see how things develop over the next few months.

UPDATE by OP
Well, we're still at it ... still in love and living together half a world apart! Have been spending somewhat longer times together ... 2 weeks at a time,more or less, as often as possible. He's just finished his long-term obligations on the other side of the world, and now has more freedom to move around. Unfortunately, my/our original idea for him to come to the U.S. so we could live together is out the window, thanks to the current U.S. political situation. It's infuriating ... he's from a Latin American country, and the risks of him getting snatched/incarcerated/deported for no reason seem too high right now for both of us. So we're looking to establish residence together abroad. It will be interesting  indeed to see how things develop over the next few months.

For those with ample play $$, I can suggest an interesting alternative to just asking the dancer. Once, more than a decade ago, I hired a hot muscle bottom for an entire evening in NYC, telling him upfront that I wanted to go to a bar and pick up a hot dancer.  He was intrigued. So we played a bit at my hotel first, and then hit the bar. I zeroed in on a really really hot "super frat boy" stud, did a couple of lap dances, and then brought him out to meet my hot hire. The three of us talked briefly, then the two of them talked, my hire lifted up his shirt to show abs and pecs, and that sealed the deal. What followed was one of the hottest "pure sex" (as opposed to making love) experiences of my life.  The dancer played with both of us, topping me until I couldn't take it any more, and then really going to town on my hire. Both of them were clearly having a great time! (And so was I!) I think all three of us came at least three times! Ah ... those were the days!

For those with ample play $$, I can suggest an interesting alternative to just asking the dancer. Once, more than a decade ago, I hired a hot muscle bottom for an entire evening in NYC, telling him upfront that I wanted to go to a bar and pick up a hot dancer.  He was intrigued. So we played a bit at my hotel first, and then hit the bar. I zeroed in on a really really hot "super frat boy" stud, did a couple of lap dances, and then brought him out to meet my hot hire. The three of us talked briefly, then the two of them talked, my hire lifted up his shirt to show abs and pecs, and that sealed the deal. What followed was one of the hottest "pure sex" (as opposed to making love) experiences of my life.  The dancer played with both of us, topping me until I couldn't take it any more, and then really going to town on my hire. Both of them were clearly having a great time! (And so was I!) I think all three of us came at least three times! Ah ... those were the days!

For those with ample play $$, I can suggest an interesting alternative to just asking the dancer. Once, more than a decade ago, I hired a hot muscle bottom for an entire evening in NYC, telling him upfront that I wanted to go to a bar and pick up a hot dancer.  He was intrigued. So we played a bit at my hotel first, and then hit the bar. I zeroed in on a really really hot "super frat boy" stud, did a couple of lap dances, and then brought him out to meet my hot hire. The three of us talked briefly, then the two of them talked, my hire lifted up his shirt to show abs and pecs, and that sealed the deal. What followed was one of the hottest "pure sex" (as opposed to making love) experiences of my life.  The dancer played with both of us, topping me until I couldn't take it any more, and then really going to town on my hire. Both of them were clearly having a great time! (And so was I!) I think all three of us came at least three times! Ah ... those were the days!

For those with ample play $$, I can suggest an interesting alternative to just asking the dancer. Once, more than a decade ago, I hired a hot muscle bottom for an entire evening in NYC, telling him upfront that I wanted to go to a bar and pick up a hot dancer.  He was intrigued. So we played a bit at my hotel first, and then hit the bar. I zeroed in on a really really hot "super frat boy" stud, did a couple of lap dances, and then brought him out to meet my hot hire. The three of us talked briefly, then the two of them talked, my hire lifted up his shirt to show abs and pecs, and that sealed the deal. What followed was one of the hottest "pure sex" (as opposed to making love) experiences of my life.  The dancer played with both of us, topping me until I couldn't take it any more, and then really going to town on my hire. Both of them were clearly having a great time! (And so was I!) I think all three of us came at least three times! Ah ... those were the days!

Jayden is one of the only guys I'd fire up the private jet for.

Jayden is one of the only guys I'd fire up the private jet for.

I can verify that opinion through direct personal experience. not just "great" ... extraordinary. These two guys are INCREDIBLE together. Being the "filling" in a sandwich between them is a truly amazing experience. I wish I could afford to hire them as "live-ins."

The pics are accurate, the endowment is real, and he is friendly and hot, and has good stamina ... with and without his BF. (I hired them together. Worth every penny.)

As a 74 year-old widower, currently dating a 34 year-old, I find this thread to be interesting, with some comments amusing, and some cruelly judgemental ... like this one. Not sure why you view Geffen's decision as "stupid and mentally fucked up." Specifically, I most definitely wonder why you wonder why an 80-year-old would want or need the close emotional/personal connection of marriage. I had been very active on this forum, and in this hobby, in the years since my husband of 30+ years died ... and now cruise the site out of interest and, perhaps, nostalgia, because I haven't hired since I entered this new relationship. I am the kind of person who deeply and fundamentally enjoys close emotional connection (as well as satisfying sex). After becoming overly (and damned foolishly) entangled with a handsome, hot, charming provider, and then extricating myself from that connection, I doubted I would ever find the kind of connection I wanted.  And then -- precisely because I had stopped actively "looking" -- it happened. We met in a professional setting, and have been dating since. I am deeply in love. He says the same and, unless he is worthy of every stage/screen acting award on the planet, is genuinely in love with me.
While I make no judgements (AT ALL) about someone who would get emotionally (and legally) involved with someone described as a "porn star and go-go-boy" the age difference in and of itself shouldn't be an issue ... assuming that both participants are both honest and enter into the relationship with their eyes open. Is my admittedly admirable financial situation (though not even remotely close to billionaire status!!!) a mutually-acknowledged part of the equation? Of course!! I would be foolish indeed (even blind, perhaps) if I did not acknowledge that and take it into consideration. Such things are always part of any relationship -- gay, straight, same-age or May-November -- to a greater or lesser degree. I always earned substantially more than my husband, and I therefore paid for many things we enjoyed together, from real-estate to dining out and global travel.  If the extraordinarily intelligent and hard-working (and, yes, very handsome and sweet, and sexy) young professional I am involved with is willing to share a number of his prime years of life with me, I am more than willing to reciprocate with reasonable intellectual, emotional, and financial support ... including post-mortem asset-sharing, (with an appropriate pre-nup.) This isn't just a sexual fling, although the sex is wonderful.  (I prefer to refer to it as "making love" rather than just hot sex ... although it is hot, on both physical and emotional levels.) Having met in a professional setting, we soon discovered that we have similar interests in international culture, travel, food, and a wide range of intellectual pursuits.
Do I enjoy close and rewarding emotional connections with a reasonable number of friends and family member? Thankfully, yes. Do I have enough self-esteem to be self-sufficient emotionally if I choose to be? Also, thankfully, yes. Do I have some nagging doubts about the $$ issue? Of course I do! I don't consider myself to be blind, naïve, or foolish.  Did I have various doubts about my marriage that lasted for more than three decades until death parted us? You bet! And I've learned that one can either hold out for perfection (whatever that might be) or one can barricade oneself by rejecting every potential relationship with any inequities, or one can, with due diligence and careful thought, allow oneself to enjoy the delights of romantic and physical love -- rather than allowing something like age-difference and society's reaction to that get in the way. With full acknowledgement of the risk it entails, I have chosen the latter. Time will tell whether the decision to engage in this way will play out the way I hope it will.
In the meantime, I am thrilled for the chance to enjoy the delights of love again ... while making absolutely NO judgments whatsoever about people who prefer a series of blazingly hot sexual trysts, whether those involve financial transactions or not. Been there too, and enjoyed it immensely!

As a 74 year-old widower, currently dating a 34 year-old, I find this thread to be interesting, with some comments amusing, and some cruelly judgemental ... like this one. Not sure why you view Geffen's decision as "stupid and mentally fucked up." Specifically, I most definitely wonder why you wonder why an 80-year-old would want or need the close emotional/personal connection of marriage. I had been very active on this forum, and in this hobby, in the years since my husband of 30+ years died ... and now cruise the site out of interest and, perhaps, nostalgia, because I haven't hired since I entered this new relationship. I am the kind of person who deeply and fundamentally enjoys close emotional connection (as well as satisfying sex). After becoming overly (and damned foolishly) entangled with a handsome, hot, charming provider, and then extricating myself from that connection, I doubted I would ever find the kind of connection I wanted.  And then -- precisely because I had stopped actively "looking" -- it happened. We met in a professional setting, and have been dating since. I am deeply in love. He says the same and, unless he is worthy of every stage/screen acting award on the planet, is genuinely in love with me.
While I make no judgements (AT ALL) about someone who would get emotionally (and legally) involved with someone described as a "porn star and go-go-boy" the age difference in and of itself shouldn't be an issue ... assuming that both participants are both honest and enter into the relationship with their eyes open. Is my admittedly admirable financial situation (though not even remotely close to billionaire status!!!) a mutually-acknowledged part of the equation? Of course!! I would be foolish indeed (even blind, perhaps) if I did not acknowledge that and take it into consideration. Such things are always part of any relationship -- gay, straight, same-age or May-November -- to a greater or lesser degree. I always earned substantially more than my husband, and I therefore paid for many things we enjoyed together, from real-estate to dining out and global travel.  If the extraordinarily intelligent and hard-working (and, yes, very handsome and sweet, and sexy) young professional I am involved with is willing to share a number of his prime years of life with me, I am more than willing to reciprocate with reasonable intellectual, emotional, and financial support ... including post-mortem asset-sharing, (with an appropriate pre-nup.) This isn't just a sexual fling, although the sex is wonderful.  (I prefer to refer to it as "making love" rather than just hot sex ... although it is hot, on both physical and emotional levels.) Having met in a professional setting, we soon discovered that we have similar interests in international culture, travel, food, and a wide range of intellectual pursuits.
Do I enjoy close and rewarding emotional connections with a reasonable number of friends and family member? Thankfully, yes. Do I have enough self-esteem to be self-sufficient emotionally if I choose to be? Also, thankfully, yes. Do I have some nagging doubts about the $$ issue? Of course I do! I don't consider myself to be blind, naïve, or foolish.  Did I have various doubts about my marriage that lasted for more than three decades until death parted us? You bet! And I've learned that one can either hold out for perfection (whatever that might be) or one can barricade oneself by rejecting every potential relationship with any inequities, or one can, with due diligence and careful thought, allow oneself to enjoy the delights of romantic and physical love -- rather than allowing something like age-difference and society's reaction to that get in the way. With full acknowledgement of the risk it entails, I have chosen the latter. Time will tell whether the decision to engage in this way will play out the way I hope it will.
In the meantime, I am thrilled for the chance to enjoy the delights of love again ... while making absolutely NO judgments whatsoever about people who prefer a series of blazingly hot sexual trysts, whether those involve financial transactions or not. Been there too, and enjoyed it immensely!

Any and all graphic details, please!!

Any and all graphic details, please!!

I thought I'd add to this conversation for you perverts.  Personally I'd watch Jayden Marcos bang a hole in the pavement.  😃 
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The slurping 😂

Any and all graphic details, please!!