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Makes perfect sense to me, both the offer and the acceptance. Really, the 300 first hour/ 500 two hours structure is 100 'setup fee' for freshening up and preparing generally on the provider's own time, then 200 for each hour of the client's actual presence. Sometimes, with a new provider where I've booked an hour, I've asked around the halfway mark whether we can go over the hour on the basis of (in the above example) any excess being paid proportionately to 200/hour, so we can relax into the session without clock-watching, just letting it take its course. Generally, there's been agreement,, and I always then settle immediately before leaving and I round up in the provider's favour - rather than pulling out a calculator;-) - as a thank-you for the flexibility (tipping isn't a thing in London).

But the reason might be one you can live with. It can be a case of "cheap but cheerful" or even, quite easily with a bit of care, "good value for money". Example: located well away from central London, Zone 3* Tube (metro) station, and not near at all even to that station (but a short drive from me). Hence ruled out straight away by the majority of punters. Well into thirties (no problem for me), body not gym-toned but far from gone to seed. Poor marketing (I told him to log on daily to his Sleepyboy profile, and update it at least weekly even just by changing a single word, so that 'Last Online' and 'Last Updated' look 'fresh' - ignored). But gave me the hardest pounding I think I've ever had, after starting with a professional-quality massage. What's not to like? * concentric zones on the Tube for fare purposes, from 1 (central) to 6 (very much outer suburbs) - social cachet and willingness to travel from the centre drop off from zone 1 to 2, and more sharply from 2 to 3.

... especially if, as part of the repeatedly-suggested advance communication with the escort, you make it clear that his gym time is to be spent flaunting himself dressed in short lycra tights with no more than a four-inch inseam, skin-tight crop top and knee-length white socks, so you can discreetly work up a lust for him stretching and bending as he lifts weights

How dare you be so rude to me… As a fellow Brit, I would opine that Mike Carey's words were in fact not rude within British culture. Not when written, nor indeed when spoken - unless accompanied by a slight hint of undue emphasis, or other subtle innuendo of facial expression. Now, if he'd said "How very interesting!", it would be a different matter altogether ... 😉

Yes, a couple of times. My attitude is that they're simply in the wrong line of work. I don't hire them again. I am of retirement age (a fact I always share before a new hire), but I work out regularly, am well groomed, have a Body Mass Index at the low end of normal and I am courteous. I don't pretend to myself that I'm God's gift to men, but I've no wish to pay for a provider who is simply seeking to monetise their sex life.

There are two sorts of 'not great' The first sort is 'not really matching up to what I'd hoped for'. Perhaps, with a new provider, no real chemistry. He delivered, but somewhat perfunctory. The analogy with a restauarnt could be "it had good reviews, but for me it was nothing special". The second sort is simply not being in a position to deliver what the deal involved. Not just an 'off day', but 'out of it'. The fact that the provider "blamed it on being high" shows that he recognised that he wasn't in a position to deliver. Not just an 'off day' - tired, half-hard perhaps, but right 'out of it' - no chance. The analogy with a restaurant might be "you ordered the highly-reviewed chef's special, yes, but we were out of it. I'll 'fess up - we gave you an equivalent supermarket ready-meal we had for emergencies in our freezer". How the client proceeds - and how an honourable provide should respond - is very different in the differing situations.

.. which is hardly a professional attitude in their line of work. One of the big advantages of hiring is that one can choose to hire a provider who suits one's current mood and inclinations. Today, a smooth slim twink who is ready and willing to take it .. Next week, a heavy muscular bodybuilder type who wll pin you down with his bodyweight and give it to you .. And if you've an itch to scratch the week after with a particular kink, it's good to be able to hire a provider who is also into what you're looking for ..

... and also helped to decide the scope and range of his business offering. And the interaction between that scope, and [his] price. Some escorts charge a premium for overnights because they don't particularly want to do them. But, for the right price, they will do them - and, being professionals, will then deliver their usual quality service. Some escorts just don't do overnights at all - and that is their prerogative.

That doesn't mean it was true!

There's a third. Wait until a provider is online, then send an SMS asking if it's convenient ro ring "for a short call to clear up a couple of points" and stating that you've read their profile in full. Works for me.

Following this thread, and feeling compassion for the guys who get hooked emotionally on their provider. This thread has made me realise (if I ever doubted it - which from time to time I have, fleetingly) that I really am not closet-gay. I just like cock, occasionally! Doesn't mean that I'm purely transactional with providers. Friends? No. But a friendly demeanour, some relaxed chat? - yes. Look forward to seeing favourites again? Yes. Heavily on my mind? No. Paradoxically, I feel I get closer to an enjoyable 'boyfriend experience' with those providers who can sense that what I'm paying them for is to leave - physically and emotionally - after the session, rather than paying them to [try to] buy my way into emotional involvement with them. I guess the other side of that coin is that some providers with whom I have only a so-so experience, would prefer to sense emotional involvement from the client, so as to get a hooked-up frequent regular.

Indeed so. "Yes, I can do that for you" is a rather offputting response to a kink enquiry. Pretty well says 'I tolerate' rather than 'I enjoy'.. or sometimes "anything and everything". Which pretty well says "I can do more or less anything for you", but says nothing about the enthusiasm with which it will be done. I like to see profiles that show willingness towards a range of kink, but not mindless ticking of pretty well every possibility that the site offers as an option. Coupled with some mention in the profile of what the provider really enjoys. Not many providers do the latter, no doubt because for a provider ...

Doesn't matter whether or not the provider has friends etc. Being hit up for money by a provider is the inverse of a client seeing the client-provider relationship as something other than what it actually is (as has been discussed quite a lot recently on this board - 'falling for' provider, hoping for 'off the clock' with provider etc). The client-provider relationship is a mutully agreed, bounded transaction. That cuts both ways. And keep it that way.

Negatives on Sleepyboy profiles include: - profile not showing the blue "Verified" bar under the provider's name at the top - minimal profile content - just enough to get registered. In particular, "Activities" and "Fetish" sections completely missing; short, cursory "me too" wording in the "About Me" section, no 'flavour' of there being a real individual behind the profile; - newness - not enough time to have been complained about and kicked off the site (number of views less than the low-to-mid thousands) - any reference to rates being "menu-driven" - expect then a commoditised, transactional experience. - poor command of English (either explicitly stated in the relevant standard question, or implicit from the fluency of the profile) Positives: - rates are stated (not "ask me") - although increasingly uncommon - verified photos are available to viewers (from the blue 'verified' bar mentioned above) - a thorough "About Me" - profile wording is not tightly limited on Sleepyboy - eg see https://www.sleepyboy.com/uk/london/escort/scsbw for an example of how it should be done! Worth googling the phone number to see if the provider appears on multiple escort websites, which might give further information and/or hints as to newness. Where are you in the UK that you have to travel an hour to meet a provider?

There's enough London pricing information in the public domain to get a good feel for 'the going rate' Advanced Search Sleepyboy WWW.SLEEPYBOY.COM Transgender Escorts London | Trans Escorts London | Advanced Shemale Escort Search – find the hottest and hardest Trans Escorts in your area Scroll down to last item under "General", tick "Only if Rates Stated", back to top, then under "Search Options" choose "Distance" and then under "Postcode" enter a Central London postcode - your hotel, or eg SW1A 1AA [Buckingham Palace 😉 ], then click yellow button "Search Escorts". The "only if rates stated" option was introduced a few years ago at my request to try to stem the trend towards fewer published rates. I think it should have been displayed more prominently. The going rate in London for an incall is currently £200-£250 per hour. More than that, and the provider really needs to have something to set him apart. Less than that, down to £150, need not be cause for concern, lower still at the £120 mark can be "OK" but unlikely to be mind-blowing. I occasionally see one provider fairly local to me at £120, and it's - well, it's "OK". The trend to incomplete profiles now extends to many profiles omitting the "Activities" and "Fetishes" sections, completion of which is presumably not compulsory so are ignored by the Entitled Generation who expect their phone to ring off the hook as soon as their incomplete profile is published. Don't forget that tipping is not expected in London. In the UK, tipping is for poorly-paid, overworked service workers who are EMPLOYED. The SELF-employed are not tipped - they trade on their reputation, good service gets referrals and repeat business.