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I had the massive pleasure of this short king last night. He is wider than tall and those biceps you refer to are so big and so very hard. A huge, hairy chest that goes all the way to his clavicles and is stone when he flexes. So much tissue on him. Muscles are mature and at their peak. He is very generous with his body and gets hard instantly when you get excited. He is kind and kisses big and deep. I paid for an erotic session. The massage is simply a warm up and nothing to write home about. We rolled around happily for some time. Highly recommend. 

I have yet to hire someone who lists PNP. I've come close but ultimately it violates a boundary I set for myself early on. TBH, I'm thinking about dropping that boundary (not to do PNP myself but to at least try well reviewed providers who list it). It just makes me nervous, and I'm very cautious.

Update to what happened. Froy reached out to me and confirmed that he was mistaken and apologized for his previous messages. He confirmed he was able to resolve it with the correct person and apologized for involving me. 
 
I said thanks and said I was glad he was able to resolve it. Thanks for the advice you guys.

Oh c'mon. They have a long good reputation as evidenced by their many positive reviews and the non-existence of any complaints or hints of shady behavior.
Someone screwed them, and they made a mistake identifying the wrong person... for which they've now apologized.
Move on.
I haven't even met these guys (yet), but maybe I'm untroubled by this because I've never had the pleasure of meeting guys as perfect as you all!

Dear Penthouse Forum,

I like my coffee how I like my women, I drink tea.

I still have not seen Froy or his partner Gabrielsp, though I hope to one day.
I have no idea whether they're good guys or not, but they have so many great reviews... it seems they really work hard to provide their clients with a top-end massage as hoped for.
My point of view is informed because another provider, whom I'm friendly with, had this done to him... the client paid him via Paypal, and then once he left, filed a chargeback, leaving the provider with nothing.
What is the provider to do? They feel totally powerless, and worse than the loss of income is the disrespect and feeling of being used and made to feel worthless. 
I can understand how in such a position, the provider writes a note like Froy did, trying to maintain some perception of power in the situation. Let's be honest: They're not going to small claims court given too many questions could likely be asked about the services, etc., but they were taken advantage of and made to feel small, and so they responded in the heat of the situation as best as they could.
I'm assuming, based on the recipient's response here, that they mistook which client used the Paypal, so that's on them.
But I don't see this as an extortion effort, and if they were the type, they'd have many more negative comments here and on Rentmasseur from others who would find them to be shady characters. 
I think they deserve the benefit of the doubt, outside of getting their clients mixed up.
That said, I always pay cash.....

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I received a very strange follow up from this provider about three months after meeting them. Froy Texted me as folllows:
“PayPal has confirmed that you received the service in full and then filed a chargeback, which resulted in financial damage to me.
Filing a chargeback after receiving the agreed service constitutes fraud. I have your contact information and records of the transaction and service provided.
If the amount of $815 USD is not returned immediately, I will proceed with legal action for fraud and unjust enrichment, including a formal report and small claims filing.
I am giving you the opportunity to resolve this directly before escalating.
Awaiting your response.”
I feel bad for them that this happened but I didn’t do this to them. I’ve never used pay pal before. I replied and they showed me the screen capture with chargeback info on it from PayPal and it was someone else but they insisted it was me who did it. After explaining that they have wrong person they followed up with the following messages:
 
“Understood.
I will stop contacting you.
Any further steps regarding this matter will be handled through formal channels based on the records I have.”
and 
“I’m glad my home has a smart door cam and I have everything recorded! ”
It is a very strange uncomfortable situation. Any advice or thoughts?

I remember a few years ago in south Florida a female escort was busted in a downscale (La Quinta, I think) local motel. It created a stir locally. She was apparently high volume and not very discreet.
I agree with all of the previous comments. Problems are few and far between. Some experienced friends in the business tell me that potential issues like extra towels and/or sheets and unusual messes left behind can be mitigated by making friends with and amply rewarding the cleaning staff. 

I'm curious about this from both a USA perspective and non-USA perspective.
In the US it seems like Miami and NYC top the list. Any other honorable mentions? 
I'm in California. There are not many options in SF, and even LA seems to have fewer than would be expected.
And what about internationally?
Not necessarily asking just about competitive bodybuilders... just places where one might find the highest concentration of big muscle.

He stole money from you. Most people aren't lucky enough to get such a useful red flag before even meeting. I wouldn't even consider getting in touch with him.

If I cancel just a few hours before the meeting, I’ll pay the fee. That feels fair.
But if I cancel days in advance, I don’t feel the need to pay it. That’s plenty of time for them to book someone else.

The only time I’ve ever had to cancel on the same day of the appointment was due to a bike accident. I offered to pay whatever he felt was fair, and even though it was only the second time I’d booked him, he told me not to worry about it. The next time we met, I paid him 1.5 times his rate.
It sounds like you missed the chance to make things right at the time of the cancellation, and he’s clearly no longer interested in working with you. Take it as a learning experience, move on, and find someone else.

I find it really helpful to put the city in the title.  I like to browse the forum and when I see a thread with my city's name in it, I will click on it.  
Even if the provider is not in my city currently, the information is still helpful because then I know that he will occasionally travel to my city and I can be on the lookout for him.
 

The percentage of times when the city does match vs when the city no longer does because of provider's travel is far greater, so it really is much better to put city in the title.

Beyond cities, you may want to keep track of when and where major bodybuilding competitions (NPC, IFBB, Mr. Olympia) are occurring. Unlike gay circuit parties, this is when bodybuilder providers are looking for financial support to attend and compete in these events, which can be signified by an uptick in RM ads to those cities.

I would also recommend searching the forum for best practices provided by experienced members how to approach and communicate discreetly with bodybuilders on social media or other channels. Good luck!

 

Can we please respect providers' privacy? Posting their birthdate and city of birth seems way too invasive to me. It sucks that those websites exist that seek to identify porn performers by their real name and other personal details like those that were posted above. I guarantee you that these individuals don't want those details out there. A lot of that info is extracted by using facial recognition software and people-search websites. It's not cool and I hope CoM can at least come to an agreement on respecting these details that should be private.

I'd be curious how much alimony he'll get for that year. That alone might be enough to set him up for life.
Even without a prenup he probably won't get much else.
Oh, and David... call me, handsome 😘. I have a thing for bespectacled men with their name on concert halls 🤩

Can we please respect providers' privacy? Posting their birthdate and city of birth seems way too invasive to me. It sucks that those websites exist that seek to identify porn performers by their real name and other personal details like those that were posted above. I guarantee you that these individuals don't want those details out there. A lot of that info is extracted by using facial recognition software and people-search websites. It's not cool and I hope CoM can at least come to an agreement on respecting these details that should be private.

While there are valid arguments for/against, I think putting the city in the subject line is a good idea. The OP can always change the title of the thread if it becomes irrelevant or out-of-date. Moderators can do the same if made aware of it.
One thing that does NOT work in the subject title is to enter a URL link to the provider’s ad/site. Looks messy, and the link won’t work.

There is no harm in stating your limits in your ad. You have a full time job, you’re only available evenings and weekends, you’re not always able to even answer requests during business hours, and because of it you need to plan ahead and can only take a few clients a week. As a client, I am not put off by this at all. What I am bothered by is having to pull that information out of somebody piece by piece. There have been times where I was only available on weeknights or mornings or a specific day. Having all the information up front saves everyone time and effort. 

I have seen him - he is very much the Nixon we know from Sean Cody. He was just in town (Seattle) for the day so we wound up meeting at my place. His time is expensive, which I expected given who he is, but I was also paying his highest rate. He was extremely pleasant, conversationally and otherwise. I really enjoyed my time with him, even if I found myself a little more starstruck than I was expecting. I recommend him, if you're comfortable paying an escort rate for a massage and more than that for more. Happy to talk further in PMs although I am not on here regularly.

It appears he's back under a new name
https://rent.men/Latinmusclemexi

The book even covers dildos! (If I remember correctly, it suggests keeping only your favorite one.)