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I know. But since time in immemorial I have never seen the words Covid or Monkeypox in a massage ad, and we see those words now. Things change, and some things are very different now. I suspect a State licensing board would disagree. But HE customers don't care. Don't spoil their fantasies.

I don't know anyone who has pristine skin. I also don't know any doctor who examines a patient without gloves on. It's impossible to know the details of a circumstance that happened in private. We can easily guess for 20 more pages. Even highly trained, licensed massage therapists are not trained to identify every skin condition. Some of you should Google "contagious skin conditions." I had a rash once near my ankle, after flying home from a trip abroad, that several doctors could not diagnose. I first went to a local clinic, and the entire staff came to look at my rash because everyone there was baffled. Of course all those initial doctors wanted to believe it was some version of lyme. Turns out they were all wrong. Many of you guys think it's normal, safe or even "healthy" to get bare-handed HE massages from someone who does this work by the hour. That's a lot of bodily fluids, in a dimly lit space, washing across a lot of bare skin of strangers. How well does each provider take care of himself? To each his own on taking risks. How "ridiculous" is it for a service provider to not wear gloves?

OMG. I got a tingle in my groin after reading this. A head and neck massage after release is pure heaven. Brought back so many fond memories of how many guys used to do it. Too bad this beauty is in NJ. Can't do that.

There is maybe one photo where he looks his actual age. Too many of these smartphone photos have a glaze over them. I guess it's a special effect. I could never let someone who looks this young touch my naked body. The visual is too creepy for me.

Wow, that seems extreme. I might question the software, and contact RM. When I was a Premium Member, I went back and forth on every NYC ad. I was doing research, so I can only imagine what the providers were thinking. The only a-hole who attacked me for not booking was Michael the Russian, and that was without ever emailing him. We had no contact whatsoever. I think he went by MeltInMyHands. His a-hole behavior was notorious. Several threads here. I wrote RM and complained. I sent them the threatening emails this a-hole sent me. I believe he got kicked off RM. The NYC market seems more professional, even among the HE group who have had no training at all. I can only imagine what RM is like for others. Scary. Cancellations happen. They are a fact of life. Yes, some a-holes will abuse, but it's never considered professional to assume all customers who have to cancel are a-holes. I had to tell a recent first-time masseur that my body sometimes rejects the medication I take. I usually know in the early morning, and I typically book massage for later in the day. He told me he would not accept a last minute cancellation, so I did not book with him. What was I supposed to do? Would he have treated me better if I had a full blown accident on his table? Sometimes, with certain people, you can't succeed. Much better to simply move on, and give your money to someone more worthy.

He sure is cute.

IME, in a Physical Therapy setting, which is often a hospital or clinic, and where massage is part of the PT service, the therapists won't touch you without gloves on. Gloves are worn even when taking temperature or blood pressure. I have always assumed this had something to do with Covid. Not only do PT therapists wear gloves, in NYC, the staff is still wearing masks. I don't know if the rules are mandatory, because not everyone follows them. They may only be recommendations. When I get a pedicure these days, which includes leg/calf massage, I've yet to find someone working without gloves. Toe nail fungus and athlete's feet are very common, so gloves make sense to me. I haven't been to a spa setting in a very long time, but I've never experienced gloves there. However, I've never experienced a massage therapist not wash his hands immediately after the work. You are taught the importance of doing this in training. Depending on the number of customers per day, washing your hands often, each day, every week of work, can produce all sorts of problems with hand skin. Many service providers will resort to wearing gloves simply to protect their own health. I'm sure wearing gloves, especially these days, is far more common than we wish to believe. From a health perspective, it really is a smart choice. Real life isn't a porn movie. HE massages usually don't follow any rules. What risks are we willing to take?

I can most definitely tell you from decades of experience, the size or appearance of the hands has nothing to do with guessing quality of work. On top of that, just because a massage therapist may look like a gym God, it does not mean he knows how to put power, heat, or energy behind his hands to perform deep work. More often than not, I have been surprised by who actually has the gift. There have been exceptions, but mostly I've been surprised. A large, insensitive hand on my erection? I'll pass. (Edit) Look at the hands on many of the edging videos. I don't think I've ever seen large hands among the truly gifted.

I did see him. His name is Shen, and he is very professional. Shen Sifu Integrated Wellness SHENSIFU.COM Relax. Restore. Revitalize. He is a lovely, soft-spoken, serious man. Well trained, and very respectful. He has a high quality, very comfortable table, with fully adjustable headrest. The soft sheet covering also felt good against the skin. He has gifted hands, for sure, and does wonderful Shiatsu on the feet. He seems capable of strong pressure, if needed, but I specifically asked to go a bit lighter. I did not fall asleep, and the pain I endured was clearly good pain. A strong warmth seems to emanate from his hands, which my body appreciated. Best of all, he uses Biotone, which is a massage cream I really like. I only booked one hour, which is typical of a first time visit. Next time I will book 90 minutes, because one hour is not enough time to do the work that my body needs. (Edit) omg, I forgot to add he offers a discounted rate for first time customers; $120 for 75 minutes. It was this incentive that motivated me to give him a try. I'm glad I did.

Has anyone tried Why Not Men's Spa in Greenwich Village? Pricing – Why Not Men's Spa WHYNOTMENSPA-NYC.COM They claim to do Waxing and Trim, which seems to imply electric clippers (maybe scissors or razor?). Buttocks are $35, and Brazilian Bikini (a woman's term at a men's spa) for $50. Can't beat the pricing. Has anyone tried them, for any service? (Edit) So I called Why Not and spoke to a gentleman at the front desk. He confirmed there are two different prices; one for waxing, one for electric clipper trimming. I asked about "buttocks," and he said the service includes "between the cheeks." I also mentioned my front groin area, and he said for front and back the trim service is a $75 package. He said all the practitioners at the spa were males, no women. If anyone has any experience here, please PM me, thanks.

LOL. He's got quite the collection of flip-flops, and a catalog for resort wear.

Moving forward, it's probably a good idea to play low on the subject of erotic, and wait for a safer opportunity to discuss such things. Some guys won't care, but others will care a great deal. I predict the industry is about to come under more scrutiny, and certain people are going to feel some pain, if they are not more careful.

That thought never entered my brain. I prefer to give most gay men the benefit of the doubt. You never really know whether you dodge a bullet, because you never really know how a massage guy is going to behave until after you strip naked and get on the table. I've had many guys surprise me with their desire to explore further when all I was looking for was a good massage. Sex is usually the last thing on my mind. I realize that makes me an outlier here.

Works for me. Same here. Even if you're a straight masseur, I like the balls it takes to attract a gay customer. Most guys who advertise on gay massage sites aren't going to freak out if they touch your balls, or include your genitals, or if you request total nudity. It's the right place to shop for my kind of serious massage.

No way. I contacted him early on, before doing more research. I think I sent him a photo. He had no problem saying yes. Then I dug deeper. Saw the thread links that dated back years. I rejected him long ago. Furthermore, with all those zen words in his ads, not one word about being licensed.

KingdelRey partners with Eliron, who I find very attractive. Eliron happens to own a beautiful erection, with an amazing body. These guys are probably not pro-trained masseurs, but I could sure imagine a fun touching fantasy unfold with a 4-hand purchase. It's not a fantasy I can afford, but I sure do appreciate hearing from others who did the hire. If anyone does a 4-hand with these two guys, please feel free to PM me, and share the details (and maybe some photos). I would be forever grateful. Thank you. 🥰

The links above are interesting reading. None of his photos are full body, so it's impossible to judge height. There seem to be no nude photos in private pics (unless that has changed), but his package in underwear appears to be mega-huge. Makes me leery that something down there may not be attractive, and who wants to encounter an ugly piece when the pants come down, regardless of size? Or, maybe he likes a bit of mystery.

LOL. The elitist language notwithstanding: "very specific gate-keeper" "only sees the best of the best gentlemen" "a sweet, conservative midwestern guy with a great deal of talent and a broad following of elevated people" The best: "He's not opening his hole to any dirty old man with cash in hand." Thank you for the laugh. I'm picturing a yellow-brick-road straight to his ass, with elevated gentlemen (and a dog) skipping north. I'm sure there are plenty of horny gay men lining up to try the guy. Rejection is a turn-on for so many gay men. I wasn't making any judgement about him as a person. I don't know him. It's the marketing behavior with subsequent reviews that deserves scrutiny and rejection.

I contacted him. Very professional. If I see him, I'll report back. I don't care if he's not gay.

There is no law against being a precious a-hole. There is a law against discrimination, but I doubt he has anything to worry about. This is like calling the cops and screaming "kidnap" when one of the HE spas retaliates against a client for refusing upsells. Ad-nauseum or not, it's good for men on this board to see over and over again who is worth our attention and who is not. Just because Cam-Cam has been good to you, doesn't mean he's worth the risk.

LOL. Sorry, no velvet ropes with me. If a provider is that precious, I don't care what he looks like, it's a turn-off for me. Getting naked and having another man touch you is a very sensitive, vulnerable service. The last thing I want to endure, or hand off money to, is a guy who thinks he can discriminate and get away with it. People who want to pick and choose their customers, based on lord knows what, don't belong in a service business. They should be called out for their bullshit, and not be supported.

I didn't know one could still find masseur ads on Craigslist. This guy appears to be quite credited.

Oh my, being busted for using AI. I'm feeling very old. I had no idea one could do that.

Seems like a crazy business decision, however, business in Europe is a different animal than here in the U.S. From my days of business travel, I always had both a Visa and MC, because in Europe, you never knew which business accepted which card. Most businesses I encountered in Europe had restrictions on which card could be used. They simply could not afford, or did not want to endure the expense of offering too many cards. If I was a massage therapist, and I profited from, and liked the UI of rentmasseur, I would definitely get a MC.

It's probably a double-edged sword. On the one side, handsome photos could attract more business. On the sharpest side, good photos could attract horny, aggressive customers in search of sex. Imagine being a service provider being constantly propositioned by out-of-control horny men that you're not attracted to. What an annoying pain. Pick your poison. I never heard of this place before. Their prices seem incredibly low. I would like to know more. (edit) I see they do mostly sugaring. Their specific lasering process has some negative reviews.