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Yep, we're back to that. There never really was a black and white interpretation, was there? Even being street smart, it was never good to assume or expect anything. As far as I'm concerned, these words were there to feed a fantasy, and many providers knew how to do word-play (mostly between sensual and erotic). The words were part of the search seduction, and they provided a few guys the ability to charge more. Any guy who took the words seriously did so at risk of disappointment. Lots of disappointment expressed here on this board. The truth is, a guy never knows when he'll encounter luck. Obviously, the hotter clients typically have more fun. Asking is only fun if the response is "yes." I avoid asking because hearing "no" would kill the fantasy before the service even starts. Several providers would ask if I wanted more, and that was welcome. Because then I knew they were interested in going further. There was no negative interruption. Until it becomes legal, we're stuck.

Closed down? Where did that come from? I have no idea what is going on internally at RM. Even if they provide an explanation, I doubt I would believe it. I was a recent Premium customer, but I have not received any communication from them regarding this change. Maybe it only went out to providers. Nonetheless, I'm not surprised.

I always understood it to mean the following: Sensual: Provider may touch sensitive areas without engaging in sex acts. Erotic: Provider will provide HE, and he may get naked and let you touch him. Many also believed it was an open door to the possibility of penetration. Obviously, the words were just another word-play marketing tool for providers who wanted another read-between-the-line choice. Now, there will be less choice, leaving many to wonder further what they will actually get for their money.

Exactly. Now watch the changes begin.

That sounds like fun. I wish more would be interested in doing this. I once had a masseur in San Francisco who used an undressing ritual soon after you arrived. It was amazing. We undressed each other, and I'll never forget the way he touched my junk as he was sliding my underwear down to the floor. So hot and sexy. That was a very memorable massage.

@mike carey LOL, I never feel bad about hating user interfaces. I did not grow up on computers, so for me, it's like learning French. However, my brain still works (thank God), and when something is shown to me, I can learn. Thank you for showing me, Mike. I had no idea Theme existed, or what it could do. Interesting feature. Now I know how to avoid the snowflakes next holiday season. Much appreciated!

I don't remember that. I think the word "twink" rose significantly when porn went to the internet in the early 90's. It became a growing, dominant porn category, and studios began specializing in reaching out to those customers. Today, young, skinny guy porn is everywhere, with some studios only producing that. Same here. Never liked alcohol much. Never liked the smell of a bar. Stripper clubs were fun. Those places smelled more of man sweat. Loved that.

That's really lovely to know. Thank you for the note. Now if only I could figure out what all that means, and how to do it. LOL. I'm so not made for a tech world.

+1 Life is complicated enough for a gay man. Have to disagree with that. Aggression and entitlement are far more prevalent these days. Simply watch the Karen-on-airplane videos on YouTube for the last 10 years of air travel. You'll see people behave in public in a manner I've never seen before. And I flew for business most of my life. And end up like Oscar Wilde? Certainly not a bad way to live, or offer as an example. However, when it comes to sex work among gays and gay-bar life, it helps to get street smart. Pick your venues with care, and know your place within them.

Sorry. OT again. I like lime a lot. I just happened to be at Fairway Market today, a grocery store I don't normally go to. Lo and behold Duke's was on their mayo shelf. Next time I need mayo I'm going to try it. Thanks for the mention. I love a good mayo.

What I meant by growing old, is facing the choice of accepting or rejecting the coarsening of our culture. When I was younger, I saw everything through rose colored glasses.

Sorry, not on Grindr. Lots to be sad about these days. Growing old is a bitch.

Interesting discussion. If I had the money, I'd rather spend it on watching him work. Sexually, he's not my type, but I can see why a lot of guys and gals drool over him. Whenever I have seen him in interviews, he always comes across as some version of manic. There is that laugh. As a sex worker, I don't think I would enjoy being intimate with him. I don't think the word savor is in his vocabulary. Plus, he's way too young. OT: I never heard of the brand Duke's before. I see it has no sugar, and uses more egg yolk (which may make it more fattening). I'd be interested in trying it.

I don't think social grace rules of yesteryear apply to social media of today. Today, I'm surprised when anyone exhibits good manners. I don't own a smartphone, so I've never been on Grindr. I heard it was for hot, younger guys looking for sex. If that is mostly true, and you're not hot and age appropriate, then I would say there's some glutton for punishment at work here. Disrespecting boundaries is a huge turn-off for most gay men. Huge turn-off. It's even more intense for sex workers. Someone who assumes you can introduce RM banter on a place like Grindr, without permission, is not thinking. IMO, this shortsightedness is begging for rejection.

+1

The body seems amazing, at least for my taste. Love his legs and butt. If he's got a nice face, nice personality, and a lot of talent, I could easily see how falling head over heels could be a thing.

I'm still trying to get through it. Unbelievably boring. Had no idea who Nicki Glaser was. Still don't care. Her cleavage is not pretty. I didn't need to have it shoved down my throat. I can't believe this Globe organization continues to have any clout in the industry. It all seems so fake and gratuitous to me. No one seems to want to be there. I can't believe Jodie Foster won for True Detective. I thought Night Country was awful, laughable. It was painful to watch to the end. I did see Sofia Vergara in Griselda, and I thought her performance was 10 times better than anything Jodie Foster offered on Night Country. IMO, the Globes are a joke.

They can be very frustrating. Sometimes you just have to give the game a rest, and maybe re-visit it later. That's what I've always done. Me too. I always book for massage. That is my history. If sex ever happened (and it did many times), it was always a welcome surprise. If sex was that important to me, then maybe I would have looked at escorts. Frankly, I never had difficulty finding free sex, so hiring an escort didn't really enter my thought process.

That is so nice when that happens. A great compliment to you. Thanks for sharing. Absolutely. Very true. But smart customers know how to play the game and read the room. It's the other guys that require a lot of time and patience.

I failed to get beyond his poor communication skills. I asked my usual questions, but did not get answers. In fact, I specifically requested "therapeutic only," and he responded "I do happy ending." I have no interest in HE. He also failed to provide prices for 60/90 minute versions. He didn't bother to respond to my follow-up email. I wasn't expecting that he would be licensed, but you never know unless you ask about certification. He completely ignored the question. Scheduling for the HE guys has to be a nightmare. No two guys cum at the same time.

Showing respect for someone else is difficult to do if you don't respect yourself. Sort of like love.

Sexual experimentation among human beings can get complicated. It's not for rational thinking. IME, these odd occurrences are mostly one-offs. Weird stuff can happen when the lights are low, and a naked body is lying beneath. I'll never forget my first straight guy experience. When I asked him why, he answered, "I'm curious. I have an open mind." He's straight with kids till this day. I have no proof that anyone's stories on the internet are truthful, but I do have my own peculiar experiences. I've had some surprising shit happen. I stopped trying to figure some of it out long ago.

It's not unusual to find many in NYC, but I've been lucky enough to find them across America, too. I used to travel for business, and often stayed in hotels that offered spa services. Many fun memories from my youth. I always loved the ones that were a true surprise.

I have often heard providers complain about the "grabbers." You can tell by some of the discussions on this board, many men are too hungry for anyone's good. Their appetite for sex is insatiable. They grab instead of touch sensually. It reminds me of men who scarf down their food. Get it in as fast as you can because I need to feel the pleasure as quickly as possible. It's a message of desperation. These are not fun or enjoyable customers. I don't care what they are willing to pay. If you are this type of guy, it is not easy to change. Because change requires a behavioral adjustment, and many refuse to see the forest for the trees, and face their own truth. The best and safest way to deal with a client like this is to let him go.

I've been with a few "straight" guys who were in experimentation mode. They are a difficult lot to figure out. IMO, the less you say the better. These are not normal gay thinkers with whom you can discuss and rationalize feelings. As Jamie21 said, if you break the "spell" in any way, it could all go south and end. Nothing great lasts forever anyway. I have never needed climax, so this would be a great massage for me. In fact, my body responds to massage in a manner that makes if very difficult to climax. That's why the massage always trumps anything else for me. But I still feel any sensual build up is a healthy thing for my body. If I could find something similar for that price, there is no way I'm going to tamper with it. I would enjoy it while it lasts.