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I actually wrote something similar that makes your point, and then removed if for some reason. I completely agree. The look/talk-down attitude can be displayed from either side. In fact, something that sometimes I wonder is how providers deal with clients who try or actually make them feel cheap, or those who display a mistreating attitude, maybe become verbally abusive. And yes, things go smoother with kindness and politeness from either way. And I also endorse the other side shielding themselves the moment they get (or perceive) the wrong attitude.

I'm indifferent to any those things. Whoever choose one way of cruising or another, it's their business.

I am scotch illiterate, but I've liked every mixed drink I've had with it, and when I've had it on the rocks. Sorry I can't contribute more.

Happy ending, but not from a story he tells you (unles that's what does it for you). I guess how happy the endig can be might be negotiable.

If you asked me before my recent trip to PV, I'd say I do Reverse Leo. However, I selectively got young providers, some of which were great. In my experience, even when I was in my 20s, young guys tended to be "too mcuh enthusiasm, too little essence". However, I remember me not considering myself to be like that, so I figured that there are some young guys who know how to have sex like a more mature guy (and yes, there is a difference), and conduct themselves as such. The opposite is true too. I've had one or two terrible experiences with Reverse Leo guys, so I finally concluded that though age is a factor to consider, the risk of having a bad experience exists in the entire spectrum. At a romantic level, most of my relationships were with people around my same age, with the exception of one, that was with a much older guy (and it was a terrible relationship, but for reasons other than age difference). My husband is nine years older than me, but I believe that from certain age that doesn't make a lot of difference anymore. I am fairly new to this scene, so I started hiring Reverse Leo people, but I have been open to the idea of Leo people. In all honesty, there are certain things about the younger generation that I find off-putting, and that's the main reason why I have avoided hiring Leo people. That changed a few weeks ago in my recent vacation, and I had a great time. I guess what I'm saying is that I've grown to be more accepting of a larger age range. For me, that happens anyway with people of all ages. I don't know what is it about me, but people just tell me things about them. It's always been like that with me. I have shared in this forum that some providers have disclosed all kinds of rather very personal information to me (i.e., psychiatric medications they take, medical issues they have, childhood traumas, plastic surgery done, having a criminal record, to name a few), most of them in my first (or only) visit. Not sure why, but I just listen, and I get what I hired the guy for anyway, so not a problem to me.

There always going to be people who get into your personal business. Relatives of mine still ask me the question, and depending on my mood or who they are, my answer fluctuated, from "...so I have a marriage like yours, or my parents' or my siblings? No, thank you", to "...none of your mother fucking business". Now that I am legally married to a man, they stopped asking, and they don't acknowledge my husband. So in my experience, their questions have never come out of real concern for my well being; it's been about the cheap thrill of putting me in what they seem to think is some kind of awkwardness. Today, with people continuously making shit up, and creating made-up, overlapping, and sometimes downright ridiculous sexual orientations, things seem to become easier to give answers that have people leaving them alone, or to cover up their own sense of sexual inadequacy.

Thanks. There are several videos, actually. Not the best, not the worst. Seen better, done better, hired better. Don't know if I can post the link here, though.

Oh, well.

100% agree. You can find assholes both in and of the closet, though.

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I wonder how she has handles decades and decades (and decades) of people talking about her look. It also amuses me how she manages to create so many conversations about it. Like I said in the 80s, 90s, 2000s, and 2010s, I say in the 2020s: "You go, girl".

My views on that has changed as I have grown older and wiser. Originally, I resented them, and I didn't like them at all. I used to view them as wanting the joys of sex between men, but hiding from the responsibilities that come with being gay. I saw them as opportunists. In the community where I grew up, the closet cases I knew were the type that attacked gay men as way of shifting the focus out of themselves. That was part of what made me resentful. That type of closeted guy still exists today, and I still reject and resent them, but I've also learned about the ones I never heard of before. Many men find themselves in situations where they cannot be out, and they do not attack gay men in a lame attempt at keeping their cover. Many value having a family, children, their faith and other things that go against their sexuality, more than being open about who they are. It's a decision that they have made, but they don't judge others who don't make the same decision. So today I know that there are different reasons why some men hide their true sexual orientation, and I have to put my money where my mouth is. That is, I claim that I am open minded and non-judgemental, so I dont' judge them or their situation, I only set boundaries with the ones who seem to need to attack gay men or trans people to reinforce their closeted status.

Just my thoughts. In all honesty, lack of kindness has been a constant in the gay community. For decades, I have witnessed some gay men treating each other like garbage for no reason. I see men trashing and assasinating the character of fellow gay men just for pleasure. That's not a new thing. In the provider world, kindness has been one of the needs that they fulfill for clients. However, if you look around the society where we live in today, seems like common courtesy and kindness are less and less. I think that it's a reflection of how we are living today (overall). Also, some providers do have an attitude of looking down on clients; they seem to think of clients as these "losers that need to pay to get some". Also, there's a difference in the way the newer generation communicates. What some of us in the older generation might find off-putting, to them it might be just communication. We do have to factor the fact that the way the newer generation views the world is different. The good thing is that those unkind providers can be weeded out since there are way more options available. When I encounter attitude or lack of courtesy, I just move on. Like the subway, there's always a next.

Hello, and welcome back to the industry. Consider your license and certification to practice in all states valid and current 🙂. As a client, I always want to see as much as possible, but depending on how those two pictures are and what they show, they may or may not be sufficient. I have hired providers who don't show face in their profile. Not ideal to me, but I figure that people have many reasons not to show their face (although sometimes they show things that can identify them, such as tattoos and outdoor places where they pose). If you create a profile with not too many pictures, my suggestion is to make the written portion of it rich in information, so prospective clients can have more information about what you can offer. That can help balance the limited amount of pictures. I have read discussions here of clients being suspicious of profiles with only a few pictures, or no face. So it could be a problem for you as a provider. Is there a reason why just two pictures? Could you add more, even if they don't show face? Maybe in time? Variety and versatility can be good selling points. Just something to consider.

Welcome to Philly, the city of poor attitude and mediocrity. That said, I've found the dismissive replies that don't address the questions in other providers. The moment that I get one of such answers, I just move on. There are plenty of providers to choose from, and I personally don't get hung up on one provider. If I get a response much later, depending on the response, I'd give the provider a chance. There are legitimate reasons for providers to not respond right away, such as traveling, tending other clients, or just self-care. To me it's more about the type of response I get. I've gotten a lot of poor attitude in Philly, so many times I don't even bother. Good that I travel and also have my reliable regulars in Philly. As for the things that the provider offers, to me those are things that the provider offers, not something that I have to do if I hire him. I don't buy everything there is on display in a store; I just go get what I need. Same thing with providers. Advertising that he is willing to do something doesn't mean that it's what I hire him for. When there are specialized providers, they are clear (in my experience) about what exactly they are after, what type of clients they are catering, and sometimes they even have photos. Best is to communicate, and of there's no response or a poor one, then that is comunicating something.

I don't see the point of it for a client. I can see the provider benefiting from the deal, regardles of him meeting his end of the bargain. As a client, nope!

I think that that's not a cheesy description of themselves. That pretty much states what you can expect from the provider. I see a difference between poor imagination and use of overinflated words when describing themselves, the use of cheesy gimmicks in prose and in their pictures (like the soccer players/construction workers/medical staff/police officers guys), and stating what their intent or what they are willing to be/do for you. Like you, I immediately dismiss any profile that involves "findom", "sugar daddy", or the actual use of the word "relationship" in certain contexts.

Just my view, and only my view. I dismiss some of the exaggerations and look at the overall information of the profile. That gives me a better picture of the provider. I have hired providers with cheesy phrases in their descriptions and other gimmicks and never had a reason to complain, but that's just me. I don't go to a bathhouse for the background music, so I don't visit a provider profile for his prose.

Interesting. I believe that may be the case, and I also felt good chemistry between us right away, from the very initial contact, something that I have rarely experienced. I certainly don't see fisting as a regular practice in my sex life, but yes, maybe because it was him, and we were both very present LOL! You made me laugh. I'm certainly not joining the Future Farmers of America either. I feel the same about getting fisted. Also, I did worry about my fingernails being too long and causing damage (it didn't stop me, though). Thank you all for your thoughts. I'm glad I found this place where I can share about this.

Just want to share this. Feel free to remove the post if not appropriate. Please know that in the Spanish-speaking world, the name Jesus is common. I know several people with that name, many parents name their children Jesus. So in my recent vacation to Puerto Vallarta, I met this massage provider named Jesus. It was in one of those places where masseurs stand at the entrance offering massages to any passersby (that they find suitable; some completely ignore me). Right from the initial contact I felt good chemistry between us, and about 5 minutes into the first massage we were already blwoing each other. He told me that he likes getting fisted, and although that's not my thing, I decided to say yes and went along with it. Now, that wasn't the first time that I incurred in the practice of fisting. My first ex, way, way back when (in the 80s) liked getting fisted, so I did it a few times for him. That was my introduction to that practice. After that, I've had a few encounters with some guys who wanted it, some I did fist, some I didn't. Never cared for that practice; I don't even think about it, and don't watch pornography that contains that practice, it's just not part of my sexual world. That is, until I met Jesus (why does that sound blasphemous?). So for some reason, I was very aroused and excited as I was in the process of doing the fisting. He was prepared (clean and with all the necessary materials for it). I don't know what was it about it this time that I could not get enough of him. We had an incredible session, and after the session we talked. He told me that he has a boyfriend who doesn't know what he does for a living (how on Earth?) and that he doesn't do what we did with everybody (not that I care one way or another), but he did say that he loved it from me. I left it at that, and then on another day I was zipping my coffee at a cafe, and he passed by, said hello, and we chatted a little. He invited me to another "massage session", which I accepted since, why not. Again, I was suprised by my level of arousal with him. Then there was a third session, and then a fourth session. At that last session, he gave me his number and we agreed to meet me later outside his workplace, so we got together and had an incredible time. We also learned a little about each other. Never in my life did I imagine that I'd be som much into anyone who likes a practive that I don't even think of. Back home, I loved my encounters with Jesus, but I still don't think about the practice of fisting as anything I want to integrate in my sex life. This experience feels like some kind of Christmas miracle (now I'm really being blasphemous), something that I enjoyed, was magical, but I don't think that I will be able to reproduce with anyone else. When I told my husband about my Jesus experiences, his body language (as I know him for decades) was telling me "don't even think about proposing doing that with me". I imagine that providers might step outside of their own preferences to cater some of their clients, but as a client, has anyone experienced something outside of their repretoire that turns out to be exciting? I'd like to know.

That's why we have eyes and metacognitive skills. Yes, I see a lot of stretching things, but it's no different than any other advertising. Not a big deal to me. In fact, two of my favorite providers are much older than the pictures they have in their profiles. They still look good, and they certainly did good.

Hope the venting here helps.

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