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Very simple. Upgrade! Pay them a vastly increased rate and … face exactly the same problems!

There is also a medical aspect - some addiction is physical where the body craves something and will react accordingly to the point of potentially shutting down if needs not met (this is the kind mothers can pass on to unborn kids). Other addiction is likely more mental and easier to hide (and treat). Different PnP substances (and sometimes the manner of consumption) can affect the body and mind differently.

And there shouldn’t be - known to have dangerous combo effects with some substances (eg G)

Kids may find it harder to get in prescription and it may not be existential to have sex, but from what I’ve seen and heard I’d say use is pretty common. Many see it as enhancing stamina even if they don’t need it to get hard.

Careful. In shorthand gin & tonic is often code for g and t (ina) = meth Like “good times” or “great times”

And increasingly competition for the provider sites like RM, Friendboy Pro etc I mean, not that everyone on Sniffies is a provider But I’d estimate most providers I see in my City on the provider apps are there (as they are on Grindr, A4A etc) and contrary to my prior naive assumptions, mostly to find clients, not let their hair down in personal time and seek non professional encounters

For some it’s supplementary income - at an extreme, monetizing their horniness when they feel like it. They’re not there to provide a service (few are actually) or it may not be their main source of income.

I think he was either living somewhere else or took a sabbatical - as I got a message from him saying he was available again - had never met him only traded texts about rates etc maybe a couple of years ago

You are hiring the client and not vice versa and for reasons closely linked to their physical appearance. When you go to see a doctor it is appropriate for you to confirm their academic credentials. Yours are irrelevant. More than one provider has told me something on the lines of … “no offense, but I don’t really care what you look like …”.

Thank you for sharing your experience. He saved both of you time, and he doesn’t deserve your money (not necessarily saying he should be financially penalized - but he shouldn’t collect donations for his time if he can’t perform). I have an Asian friend who had the door slammed in his face when he showed up for an appointment followed by an abusive rant heard from the other side. I know of someone aged 50 something who was called “grandpa” by a provider who canceled having fixed and appointment having researched the client. You don’t have to be into everyone and you don’t have to serve them if you don’t want to / can’t. But you don’t have to treat them With disrespect. The thing is, legalese aside (I doubt he can say on RM “no blacks, no Indians”) I’d prefer an open marketplace where people compete and face the consequences of being unable to overcome their hang ups. For the (I hope) majority of providers who could service those groups - there should be a competitive advantage that this provider sees play out.

Exactly - it’s not one size fits all. And if some providers have a specific problem with certain groups - age / body type / ethnicity etc., you can’t force them to play with you if they don’t want to. Better to confront any suspicion of a provider with a potential problem rather than skirt around it and either have an unsatisfactory experience or even the door slammed in your face (I know of a few people who have experienced various odd scenarios in this regard as I have shared here before including with providers well reviewed here). Photos aren’t the only way providers screen - and if there are really problems for them they’ll likely figure out how to reduce their discomfort (which must be significant enough to walk away from earnings).

In theory that should only happen if they’re traveling internationally and have above the clearly posted limit on them. There may be other reasons they were stopped. If someone can’t deposit cash at an ATM (doesn’t have to be a physical branch) because their bank doesn’t have one in that geography, perhaps they can get gift cards from stores like 7-Eleven / Walmart / Gas stations or equivalents - or as a last resort the airport gift stores. One can also wire money to oneself using services like western union and a growing number of options from pretty much anywhere to anywhere.

And business is responding as it always does in a relatively free market. some banks (not sure if we can name them - easy to look up) offer virtual credit cards where the merchant doesn’t see your actual credit card number or name (you can make it up) though your own statements will still show merchant names. and despite tighter controls on apps like venmo and cash app requiring ID to be stored as a condition of allowing an account - alternatives allowing anonymity while satisfying law enforcement concerns on AML and terrorist financing are likely just a year or so away. scammers will have a field day if we we don’t stay one step ahead - and naively assuming everyone is well intentioned won’t help in this space or others. Applies to providers as well requiring payment … the digital equivalent of “the check is in the mail” from a supposedly busy client rushing out the door to their next appointment never to be seen again etc isn’t impossible to imagine.

In geographies like the US given the legal issues, any provider (of escort services or anything else outside the regular economy) who insists on electronic payment is probably up to something. (Not including those who allow it as an option for convenience for those who feel comfortable). The average US provider often has more to lose from the paper (ie electronic) trail given the volume of transactions compared to an individual client. While Some providers and clients especially those in their early 20s who have known nothing else - may be totally sincere in preferring electronic payment, many providers expressing a preference especially in form of prepayment (aka deposits … ) are likely trying to gain some leverage (such as the clients ID info), or the client should wonder if the provider is really all they claim to be (are they law enforcement or more likely scammers who will never provide the service). I recognize the discussion may be different in places like Canada, Europe etc .

Wait … people were still able to use personal checks at stores like Target???

Anyone else get a whiff of deja vu with this post?

Babe Love Tiger Stud Many more on my list (after cheapskate etc)

I’ve never been asked re my tests or status by any provider. I’d say he’s definitely an exception.

How could they develop such relationships? They live on their phones, even when surrounded by people they might want to meet. And having Grindr open from Friday eve to Monday am is a great weekend for many. The deepest interactions in the most intimate aspects of life for many kids today are a series of hookups where it’s almost preferred to break off all ties after one or a few initial encounters.

I’ve met several providers who are very well qualified in LinkedIn terms. Or on their way to getting there and providing is a means to that. But that experience and education doesn’t always pay the bills let alone deliver a lifestyle that is totally appropriate to seek. Ive also seen several posts on RM etc which include mention of something like “‘I’m educated with a lot of interests and a great conversationalist … I’m an excellent date for your corporate event or family function …” and I doubt they imply they would blurt out at a family gathering the specifics of how they know you if you engaged them for that time.

A key part of all this And tbh replicated in the non-provider / client world as well, straight and gay in so many ways

I don’t see why “winning” or having the last word on this topic is important. If someone isn’t comfortable with the scenario - so be it. But take a step back. The whole hobby is problematic whichever way one looks at it - in some jurisdictions legally but almost universally with stigma that can affect social standing, professional relationships etc. All of us as providers or clients have come to terms with all this in order to be here. So we have evaluated and either managed or decided we don’t care about risks or compromises with our personal codes. So why would an obscure subset of all this cause so much angst or the need for acknowledgement of one’s personal stance?

To be fair 19 in escort years is really 29 … or 31 …. Or …

The flip side is leaving an electronic trail

I’d challenge these two: #7 can be style and culture - more than once a provider has said something like “could we start with a simple hello? What happened to civility” etc when I’ve tried to be extra efficient and head straight to the transactional. Of course if it stays at small talk it’s a problem. #10 a last minute booking isn’t always from someone who’s “desperate” - could be someone found the time, a mood change, a thought popped into their head - impulse purchases happen in all aspects of life. If it doesn’t work, or you really have a policy against it - totally fine and a client should respect that. But im Thinking particularly of providers with capital letters in their postings saying something like “don’t bother contacting me if you’re not ready to meet in the next two hours “ - maybe a style thing that varies. If a providers profile says “available now” and someone is ready and willing and has payment now, one can assume a meet is possible.