I got in a huge argument with LDS on another discussion board. They smugly pointed out that LDS who "failed" at suppressing their same-sex desires had a much higher suicide rate than those who adhered to LDS teachings. When I cursed them out for bragging at how they drive gay kids to suicide, most of them played the offended at my rudeness card. I did get one or two to see the light, but they are a remarkably top-down religion and the buy-in of the rank and file is deep.