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HAL_9000 reacted to Simon Suraci in RMasseur Messages : Photos September 21, 2023

If the masseur presents himself as therapeutic and sensual only, it’s odd he’s sending you pics implying more is available. The most suspect part of it is that he is asking the CLIENT for pics before he sends his own. That’s a dead giveaway that he is willing to go further than advertised, but ONLY with the clients he finds attractive. That’s a major red flag of unprofessional behavior.
A good masseur works on everyone and maintains consistent policies regardless of how the client looks. Even if the massage gets pretty erotic, he will do this with every client that wants it, not just cherry picking from clients he finds attractive.
We receive a lot of requests for various pics. If we want the work, we need them ready, or to be prepared to say no and lose a potential client, even if we are very clear in our ad and private message communication that the massage doesn’t go that far. The client now knows this explicitly and yet still persists asking for pics. Seems crazy we have to play these games, but we are the ones who lose out if we don’t have or send pics upon request. Better, and clearer I think to refuse to send x pics if you truly don’t offer anything that would merit those pics and be willing to lose the work. It sends mixed messages, but he can send them anyway, be clear about the boundaries, and hope for the best.
If more IS available, I see nothing wrong with sending x pics upon request. The masseur should not require pics of the client to do this. Also, he should charge accordingly when the client requests extras or services more appropriate to an escort. Take note of his rates and maintain expectations accordingly.
Better yet, ask him directly: is x, y, or z included? Do you offer a, b, or c? Yes/no question format is best. Nothing will annoy a masseur faster than asking in an open ended fashion: “What is included?” Because that invites every possible act anyone could ever think of. The masseur has three choices: 1) not respond to the question 2) try to list every act ever conceived by mankind, which he won’t do 3) send a short list of what clients tend to like and that he’s willing to offer.
You know what you want. Just ask for it.
Each masseur has nuanced reasoning for what he chooses to send. Maybe he offers mutual touch and the client wants to see what he might be touching, even though no sexual contact meriting discussions of PrEP will actually take place. The masseur could send pics to appease the client but then the client has the impression that he can do whatever he wants with the masseur including full service for the price of a massage. That’s on the client for making dumb assumptions. But you never know. Clients tell stories of that stuff happening on these forums all the time. “I flipped over and he sat on my cock”.
Those are exceptions, not the rule, and really those masseurs should be charging escort rates for that level of service. Clients, please maintain reasonable expectations and pay your guys well if they go way above and beyond without discussing higher rates beforehand. Better yet, be clear in your communication about exactly what you want, what he offers, and what he charges for it upfront. And if you do want or expect full service, be prepared to pay appropriately for those services.
My rule of thumb: full service is double the massage rate. For example, here’s mine: $150/60 min massage. $300/60 min escort service. Your masseurs will vary but that gives you a rough idea of what to expect.
The whole PrEP thing is another discussion. Plenty of clients are concerned with our sexual heath even if they know nothing is going to happen. They demand the info even if we are clear about the limitations of the session. Damned if we list our health practices because it sends the message that we are having sex frequently with our clients. Damned if we don’t because clients demand the info even if it’s irrelevant to what is actually happening in their session. There’s the odd paranoid client who demands “proof” like asking us to send photos of our prescriptions. I don’t see those clients because there is no satisfying them, no matter what I do.
Then there’s the masseur who - surprise, surprise - escorts in addition to massage work, or - surprise surprise - advertises himself as a masseur but is actually only providing escort services. That’s fine. He should be clear in that case what is on offer and how much it costs. He may have “optional” additional services, which he should state upfront what those are, the limits, and how much (in addition to, or in lieu of his advertised massage fees).
Basically don’t make assumptions based on pics or info listed or photos sent. Don’t make assumptions at all. Ask directly about things you care about and go by what he says. If he prefers not to put it in writing, ask for a brief phone call. If he asks you (the client) for pics, politely decline and look for a more professional guy. Plenty of masseurs work on all types of clients and are not concerned about the way the client looks. His service is the same regardless.

HAL_9000 reacted to Bluefin in Corbin Denver September 6, 2023

He also does either voyeur or exhibition massage where the client can help massage or watch another client get massaged and vice versa. Interesting idea.

HAL_9000 reacted to BeefyDude in Just a thought... August 19, 2023

Lets face it there are ads that are overhelmingly good and not good. Personally for those that are WELL documented as being good (or bad), I still get
alot of private messages asking about it.
Not sure if this idea would fly but, what about a section or rating system where users could click + or - button then it could be tallied. So I can goto a masseur and see 50 likes and 5 dislikes
Maybe this would be on a separate forum - good list/bad list
Hey it's just an idea

HAL_9000 reacted to CuriousByNature in Let's Talk Massages: Keepin' It Real! August 19, 2023

Thanks for asking. I thought FOMO was a massage technique, maybe like Nuru... 🤣

HAL_9000 reacted to + Balthazar in Thomas in Dallas August 12, 2023

I saw him last winter. I enjoyed the experience and would potentially hire him again.

HAL_9000 reacted to LA90046 in Rentmasseur -beware of payment fraud July 22, 2023

Same.
Why would anyone -- ever -- willingly "elect to pay for rentmasseur premium services using bitcoin?"
Reminder -- "A fool and his money are soon parted."

HAL_9000 reacted to CuriousByNature in Hero_Boy in Vegas charges $500 per hour?? June 21, 2023

I don't think the second question was so bad. It takes guts to ask a person why they consider the massage experience they offer to be worthy of such a high donation amount. Every masseur has the right to request whatever donation amount they wish, and a potential client should be able to ask why an amount is considerably higher than that of others. If we go with the BMW analogy the masseur introduced, if I was making a car purchase and one model was much more expensive than another, I would like to know what sets the more expensive model apart from the others. I do agree that the masseur replied very professionally. I don't believe either party was rude or inappropriate in that exchange.

HAL_9000 reacted to Simon Suraci in Mason in Dallas June 10, 2023

https://www.masseurfinder.com/massage-therapists/45255/

He’s back advertising after a long absence. I tried him in August 2021. One of the worst masseur experiences ever. Figured he was gone for good because how could he survive when offering such bad service? I assumed the problem resolved itself without the need to report. Since he’s back, I want to warn others in Dallas or visiting. Also curious if anyone had a positive experience with him.
It was NOT A MASSAGE. He started using a theragun and I asked him to use his hands and arms instead. He insisted and complained that his arms get tired and his fingers are sore from texting all day. Barely even put his hands on my body. I was not trying to touch him at all, and he encouraged me to do so, saying mutual touch is part of it. I said no thanks, I’m good. He placed my hand on his body and complained that my hands were too cold. Tried not to go there but he forced the issue and made it seem like I was putting him out. He was in and out of the massage room at points doing who knows what.
I booked two hours, and it was the worst $200 I have ever spent. It was a total of 30 mins on the table. The rest of the time he was taking me in his shower for a body scrub, or laying me on his bed to cuddle, or talking a really long time before we started. By talking I mean him talking AT me, standing there rambling for a good 15-20 mins before we even started, on topics I showed no interest in. I did not book or ask for the bed or shower services, but he insisted we do them, even after I expressed a desire to do the massage instead. After a long while, with my body tense and stiff, I told him I was uncomfortable with the bed situation and wanted to get back to the massage. Begrudgingly, he brought me back to the table for more theragun nonsense and brief moments of barely touching my body. In the shower (again he insisted) he went on an on about his teenage traumas working on a railroad or some other blue collar job and made comments about how his penis is very sensitive from an injury years ago and that it hurts when people touch it (weird?). Again, I was making no advances and showed no interest in mutual touch. I could care less about his penis, and him talking on and on about it made me uncomfortable.
I can see how he would appeal to a lot of men who just want some company and like his look, and want to listen to him ramble about himself. The cuddle thing probably appeals to many. I just have a hard time squaring the fact that I didn’t book those services. I offer cuddle therapy and body scrubs myself so I get it, but I don’t force my clients to do alternate services when they only booked massage. So strange.
My theory is that he has no massage skills to begin with, or that he has overworked himself and can’t deliver because of it.
Mason is one of the guys on MasseurFinder who keeps on top of the listings by religiously updating his photos and doing all the criteria MF requires to keep your listing at the top. Another one doing this is Tim. He has no skill either (aside, had a bad experience with him too), but he’s attractive and that’s probably what helps him skate by, just like Mason. I don’t feel the need to stay on top of the listings since I stay plenty busy. It’s a lot of effort to be consistent enough to stay on top.