RMasseur Messages : Photos

[LosAngelesBro45]

Good afternoon.

Ever since I made myself visible (masseurs can see who clicks there profiles), masseurs are sending me messages if I want to schedule a massage.  
 

Before, I would just text them directly (check the forum for details if any), schedule, have the massage and go my merry way.  If the massage/experience was good or bad or in-between, I owe it to experience.  
 

Question: Do you sometimes ask for a picture (either face or their appendage) to confirm that it’s the same person?  I haven’t gone the route of RMen so that might be more appropriate there   

It’s odd that when this one therapeutic/sensual (no erotic) masseur, with the tame private pics, would easily send an appendage and orifice pic (pardon the wordings hahaha). Then when I asked, your profile has that you are on prep, does it go that far.  Then he was offended that he does not sell sex and can only go sensual, mutual touch, etc — but the pictures he sent were sending a different message. He asked for a picture earlier before he sent the aforementioned appendage and orifice photos. Weird was my first reaction.  
 

So, in general, have you guys asked for a literal d/ck pic (I suddenly thought I was on grindr haha). 
 

end diatribe.  

[soloyo215]

I actually stay away or stop the moment I start receiving mixed messages. I believe that part of what I am paying for is clarity (within reason) about what I can expect. For that kind of games there are the other apps.

Also, since there's no standard for what "erotic" and "sensual" entail, clarity of expectations become more important. I don't think that sending pictures of "appendage and orifice" is a good marketing strategy for providers (just my thoughts).

[Simon Suraci]

If the masseur presents himself as therapeutic and sensual only, it’s odd he’s sending you pics implying more is available. The most suspect part of it is that he is asking the CLIENT for pics before he sends his own. That’s a dead giveaway that he is willing to go further than advertised, but ONLY with the clients he finds attractive. That’s a major red flag of unprofessional behavior.

A good masseur works on everyone and maintains consistent policies regardless of how the client looks. Even if the massage gets pretty erotic, he will do this with every client that wants it, not just cherry picking from clients he finds attractive.

We receive a lot of requests for various pics. If we want the work, we need them ready, or to be prepared to say no and lose a potential client, even if we are very clear in our ad and private message communication that the massage doesn’t go that far. The client now knows this explicitly and yet still persists asking for pics. Seems crazy we have to play these games, but we are the ones who lose out if we don’t have or send pics upon request. Better, and clearer I think to refuse to send x pics if you truly don’t offer anything that would merit those pics and be willing to lose the work. It sends mixed messages, but he can send them anyway, be clear about the boundaries, and hope for the best.

If more IS available, I see nothing wrong with sending x pics upon request. The masseur should not require pics of the client to do this. Also, he should charge accordingly when the client requests extras or services more appropriate to an escort. Take note of his rates and maintain expectations accordingly.

Better yet, ask him directly: is x, y, or z included? Do you offer a, b, or c? Yes/no question format is best. Nothing will annoy a masseur faster than asking in an open ended fashion: “What is included?” Because that invites every possible act anyone could ever think of. The masseur has three choices: 1) not respond to the question 2) try to list every act ever conceived by mankind, which he won’t do 3) send a short list of what clients tend to like and that he’s willing to offer.

You know what you want. Just ask for it.

Each masseur has nuanced reasoning for what he chooses to send. Maybe he offers mutual touch and the client wants to see what he might be touching, even though no sexual contact meriting discussions of PrEP will actually take place. The masseur could send pics to appease the client but then the client has the impression that he can do whatever he wants with the masseur including full service for the price of a massage. That’s on the client for making dumb assumptions. But you never know. Clients tell stories of that stuff happening on these forums all the time. “I flipped over and he sat on my cock”.

Those are exceptions, not the rule, and really those masseurs should be charging escort rates for that level of service. Clients, please maintain reasonable expectations and pay your guys well if they go way above and beyond without discussing higher rates beforehand. Better yet, be clear in your communication about exactly what you want, what he offers, and what he charges for it upfront. And if you do want or expect full service, be prepared to pay appropriately for those services.

My rule of thumb: full service is double the massage rate. For example, here’s mine: $150/60 min massage. $300/60 min escort service. Your masseurs will vary but that gives you a rough idea of what to expect.

The whole PrEP thing is another discussion. Plenty of clients are concerned with our sexual heath even if they know nothing is going to happen. They demand the info even if we are clear about the limitations of the session. Damned if we list our health practices because it sends the message that we are having sex frequently with our clients. Damned if we don’t because clients demand the info even if it’s irrelevant to what is actually happening in their session. There’s the odd paranoid client who demands “proof” like asking us to send photos of our prescriptions. I don’t see those clients because there is no satisfying them, no matter what I do.

Then there’s the masseur who - surprise, surprise - escorts in addition to massage work, or - surprise surprise - advertises himself as a masseur but is actually only providing escort services. That’s fine. He should be clear in that case what is on offer and how much it costs. He may have “optional” additional services, which he should state upfront what those are, the limits, and how much (in addition to, or in lieu of his advertised massage fees).

Basically don’t make assumptions based on pics or info listed or photos sent. Don’t make assumptions at all. Ask directly about things you care about and go by what he says. If he prefers not to put it in writing, ask for a brief phone call. If he asks you (the client) for pics, politely decline and look for a more professional guy. Plenty of masseurs work on all types of clients and are not concerned about the way the client looks. His service is the same regardless.

[LosAngelesBro45]

The above replies are much appreciated.  This might also delve into the topic of YMMV… 

It was just odd, the scenario I mentioned above.  A friend, a younger friend, got the same “hi, did you want to get a massage” message from the same masseur, reciprocal pics where asked and exchanged and every requested pic were given.  Anyways, ymmv.  And this masseurs RMasseur’s reviews are nearing 100.  It’s that rare case of an actual RMasseur that sometime does RMen action (he does not have a Rmen account).
 

There’s plenty other masseurs out there lol