DunwoodyGuy

Yes--or credit card info. It's a well-known scam. But I don't know anyone dumb enough to fall for it. At the very least, these online scam attempts engage in (relatively) harmless data-mining, but they're really annoying.

Do younger people even know what "411" used to mean?

Nonsense. During my massage, he didn’t talk much at all.

It means something different to everyone who uses the phrase. As Nightowl described, there is an ancient Indian spiritual tradition that is mostly about meditation and breathwork and yoga. One aspect of tantra is tantric sex, and to a certain degree it involves rechanneling sexual energy back into the body without ejaculating, transforming what Westerners call "blueballs" into an idea of moving the sexual energy around the body rather than focusing on orgasm. During the worst years of the AIDS epidemic, when the exchange of fluids was first understood as the means of transmission, a group of gay men in San Francisco created an organization called Body Electric that used the ancient Indian practices to help gay men enjoy themselves and each other erotically with a version of tantric-massage practices that included lingam (penis) massage and prostate massage but ending in a non-ejaculatory "full-body" orgasm. Over the years, Body Electric expanded its practice. The phrase "tantric massage" moved on as well, and now the phrase is used by people who have never studied Indian philosophy and probably have no idea what the word originally meant. They use it simply to imply that their massage will include sexual touch. But since the word has no concrete definition, it can mean one thing to one practitioner and another thing to another. I took the Body Electric workshop years ago, and it was genuinely life-enhancing. To be in a room with 15 massage tables and 50 gay men, of different ages and sizes, with four hands massaging each subject at the same time was celebratory. Our instructor had a great sense of humor, and though we had been instructed in how to control the orgasm through breathing exercises, every once in a while a subject would slip and ejaculate. The instructor would call out "Spill in Aisle Three!"--and the group leaders would come to the table and clean it up. But I will never forget my first full-body orgasm. It truly transcended sex.

Calling fellow members "asinine" is insulting.

The 1st rule of Company of Men should be "Never send a deposit." The 2nd rule of Company of Men should be "Never-ever send a deposit." The 3rd rule of Company of Men should be "Never-ever-EVER send a deposit."

It's never safe to assume. You have to develop a way of asking, clearly but respectfully.

Actually, if you are hiring for New Year's Day, I would hire a well-reviewed professional and not just an attractive newbie--and book in advance, not at the last minute! The well-reviewed professional is more likely to be ready to give you his best, as he would on any other day. That "twink" with no experience might be a little messy.

Excellent response from LewisLMT: firm but non-defensive.

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Are you the "BeefyGuy" who left the review that's up there?

Hmmm... Never tried him but chatted with him twice and almost booked. He seemed very nice and didn't give off anything like creeper vibes to me. Can you be more specific?

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No, I'm not concerned with imaginary judgments. I have had so many more positive experiences in my years hiring than negative ones, for which I have left dozens of 5-star reviews. And I have had return experiences with a dozen or so of those guys, 2nd and 3rd sessions that were deeper and even more satisfying than the initial encounter. After a while (in life), you get to know that not everyone will like you--and you won't like everyone. But if I conduct myself respectfully toward everyone--even if they take offense at what I consider respectful--in the end, it's all good.

I reach out to multiple providers when I travel and after they respond, I reply with what I'm looking for. I try to be respectful of their time and attention, and sometimes I get accused of wasting their time. I have also been accused of "just jerking off," which is never true. (Well...at least not while I'm attempting to book a session...) If the provider takes offense at my communication, then we're not a match. But if the provider matches my attempt at respectful directness with a similar energy, then we're already ahead of the game. A comfort level has been established. And after the session I (almost) ALWAYS leave a review.

The key is to choose well and develop a way of asking that is simultaneously respectful and honest. Assuming often leads to disappointment, and making coded references may backfire on you, because codes can be misinterpreted. Worse still, if you ask aggressively or make demands, you will just come off as arrogant or entitled and get blocked. I try not to ask questions--even though I often end up doing so. I find it's much, much better to say what I like--again, respectfully and honestly--and see what the response is. If the response is negative--"I don't do that" or "No, I only do such-and-such"--then you have your answer. Thank him for his time and wish him the best. But if the response is positive--as it often is, if you've chosen well--then all you have to do is ask what the rate is and the when-and-where. Remember the guy you're chatting with is a human being. It's about the chemistry between two people, and he wants your interaction with him to be a positive experience just as much as you do, maybe more.

No face pic, no hire, no exceptions.

FYI I asked about kissing and mutual oral and his response was "I don't offer that."

I did. Wow. Will post on RentMasseur and here in a few days. But in the meantime, wow. (Did I say that already?)

I also had an amazing massage from Gabriel--mine was on Sunday. I will post a review on RentMasseur later this week. He is definitely a treasure.

Same with me. Life is too short to show up and have a bad surprise. That can also happen with outdated pictures, and you just have to deal with it, but I don't even continue the conversation if they refuse to show their face. A while ago, I arrived at a masseur's place and instantly saw that his pictures were several years old and his body was nowhere near as attractive as it was in the pictures. I went into the bathroom and thought briefly about leaving. But I was there because I had loved the the way he had described his massage. So I looked in the mirror and thought, "I'm not as attractive as I once was either. But at least I don't have to make a living with people judging my looks and contemplating walking out on me. I can cut this guy some slack." I undressed and got on his table and proceeded to have a magnificent experience. He may have gotten older and larger, but his skills and sensuality were probably stronger than ever, like a older singer who may have lost her high notes but now sings with deeper phrasing.

Hmmm... Why did you leave a "VCA" on your desk? Why did you expect us to know what a "VCA" is? And why be disingenuous and say "I'm not trying to interfere with this guy's business" when your initial post says "Avoid at all costs"? That certainly seems to fit the definition of interfering with the guy's business, doesn't it?