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    PiSquared reacted to ICTJOCK in Becoming friends   
    Sure it's possible.   I have 3 clients that were (and are)  friends.    It requires a serious conversation about responsibility and the fine line between work  (escorting)  and friendship.   The lines cannot be blurred.   If booked,  I expect to be paid as with any client.    Because they have been friends,  my responsibilities to them are not any different.     I would say I have several clients (who I met from booking)  who are "friendly with me"  if I see them outside a booking.    Not sure I can say we are "friends",   but I haven't had any issues in this area to date.
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    PiSquared reacted to Rgsnva in 411 on Jake Cole   
    I met him last December.  4 times, 2 overnights since then. It’s been great every time.  I could fall in love with him!
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    PiSquared reacted to soloyo215 in Provider relationships for the long haul   
    Sorry that you had that kind of bad experience with those two. That said, in my experience and opinion, it is less likely that providers will become closer or more personal. It's a protection/safety thing (in my opinion). Many clients and many providers that I have known do have a perception of each other as some kind of "product you buy" and not a person you are hiring, or a "pathetic loser who has to pay", not a person that is paying you. That is a sad reality, and I'd dare to say that historically that has been most of the overall societal perception of people involved in any side of this industry.
    That's a long way for me to say, that yes, you can get those nasty responses from providers, but also yes, clients can/have treated providers with the same lack of humanity. I've been fortunate to have good experiences with providers, some of which have extended their friendship, but I also know that there are some who are not interested in anything other than the transactional aspect of the event, as polite, personable and friendly as they are with me.
    The "I will never have respect for you" attitude is more of a projection, in my opinion. Seems like his way of detaching from something that he might feel ashamed of doing. Think of it as men who say "I'm not gay, my boyfriend is".
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    PiSquared got a reaction from soloyo215 in Provider relationships for the long haul   
    I’m in Fla.  Been using RM about 3.5 years. Met some flakes but mostly a lot of nice guys. A couple of them became very regular and we got close. We’d talk even if we were not meeting up. Just to check on one another and encourage each other. I sent cards and gifts. Text on occasion. Not constant. I’ve discerned over time what I really crave is not just the physical fun we have, which is amazing, but the close relationship with a man I’ve never been able to achieve as a child or grown man. Certainly not every guy I’ve met, but a few special ones. Finding that on RM is near impossible. One of my two regular guys went off on me yesterday telling me to delete him from my phone, that he will never have respect for me as I paid him for sex, that I should never contact him again. Hurtful stuff but all I could do was honor his request and delete the contact. Has anyone ever found a forever friend- even if it doesn’t involve sex anymore- on RM? 
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    PiSquared reacted to big-n-tall in Provider relationships for the long haul   
    I'm so sorry.
    I understand the pain and hurt it causes (all too well) when someone, anyone, you built a friendship or trust does a 180 inexplicably from how they treated you. I think we all have experienced that at some point in our lives. I have had people just vanish and stop responding to any form of contact. In some cases, I don't know if they are alive or dead, with no way to find out the why of it all. I even had a friend flat out tell me to not contact him anymore. As he spiraled into conspiracy theories, I refused to share his beliefs. We had a lot of fun times together and I miss him terribly, but he decided to isolate himself (from other friends and family as well). If you can and the opportunity is there, fight for the relationship. If not, the best thing is to accept it and try to move on from the pain. Grow from it but don't become jaded to others because of it. As the saying goes, "people come into your life for a season, a reason, or a lifetime."
    As far as finding a long lasting genuine friendships\ with a provider... it's absolutely possible. I am friends with a handful (which I've discussed in random topics on the forum through the years). I'm actually traveling with one tomorrow for a few days. He's since retired from escorting. I haven't hired him or seen him sexually for some time now, but we travel together frequently.
    Some of the providers I've met, I've seen more than a decade. As others have stated over time, you build a fondness for each other... build a trust. If you have mutual interests a relationship can deepen and flourish. I would say don't try to force a friendship and let the relationship grow naturally.
    Maybe talk to a therapist, if you aren't already. Maybe you can get the advice or tools you need to help you to learn to form close bonds with male friends.
    You'll be ok.
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    PiSquared reacted to ICTJOCK in Provider relationships for the long haul   
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    PiSquared reacted to myophile in Provider relationships for the long haul   
    I don’t know if it’s an option for you, but I’ve had more luck developing clos(er) contact with providers I’ve met outside of RM, through this forum, and by word of mouth. Many of the guys on RM are in the biz short-term, out to make a quick buck; or if that wasn’t their intention at first, they tend to burn out and fall by the wayside soon enough. But there is a small-ish community of providers who actively seek clients for clos(er) longterm hiring arrangements, and who value and cultivate friendships among their regulars. Most of them are not on RM, and either do not advertise at all any longer, or don’t depend on it for new clients. Vin Marco is one such provider, Apollo Phoenix is another, Tristan Baldwin is yet another — none of them based in your part of the country, unfortunately, and Apollo does not travel. But I’m sure there are others. One word of advice, though: a friendship with one of these guys is like any other friendship, based on common interests, and mutual trust and respect. But you should never lose sight of the fact that there is a transactional aspect to this relationship, no matter how close it grows, and you ignore it at your peril. The mutual liking may be genuine, but don’t assume that you are the guy’s best friend, or his only friend; and for your own sake, try not to invest your emotions too heavily. My friendships with providers are like my friendship with my trainer — I love the guy, we socialize, we share lots of stuff having nothing to do with the gym; but if I stopped seeing him professionally I wouldn’t expect necessarily that the friendship would carry on at quite the same level.
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    PiSquared reacted to TT3690 in Provider relationships for the long haul   
    I thought I had this sort of relationship with a guy I've known for over 2 years, but he hasn't returned my texts in over 3 months now (for the record, he has had silent periods before, but not this long). I should probably 'just move on', but I still feel attached.
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    PiSquared got a reaction from BonVivant in Provider relationships for the long haul   
    I’m in Fla.  Been using RM about 3.5 years. Met some flakes but mostly a lot of nice guys. A couple of them became very regular and we got close. We’d talk even if we were not meeting up. Just to check on one another and encourage each other. I sent cards and gifts. Text on occasion. Not constant. I’ve discerned over time what I really crave is not just the physical fun we have, which is amazing, but the close relationship with a man I’ve never been able to achieve as a child or grown man. Certainly not every guy I’ve met, but a few special ones. Finding that on RM is near impossible. One of my two regular guys went off on me yesterday telling me to delete him from my phone, that he will never have respect for me as I paid him for sex, that I should never contact him again. Hurtful stuff but all I could do was honor his request and delete the contact. Has anyone ever found a forever friend- even if it doesn’t involve sex anymore- on RM? 
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    PiSquared got a reaction from marylander1940 in Barber Fetish - Well-Groomed & Shaved Men   
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    PiSquared got a reaction from Simon Suraci in Do you discuss hiring guys with friends?   
    As a closeted bi married man I have only shared my experience of Rentmen with my one best friend. He was a college roommate who supports me and my explorations. 
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    PiSquared got a reaction from Anthony in Serious muscle worship Orlando/Tampa   
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    Will is a professional bodybuilder and former pro baseball player in St. Petersburg. Straight. Had a great session with him a month ago. Highly recommend. 
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    PiSquared reacted to TectonicThrust in Following your passion or following the money.   
    At the very least give your passion a shot. I wanted to be a writer all my life. After college I devoted 10 years to it. I made some money but it wasn’t a living. I decided it was time to grow up and go to law school as my dad had always told me to do. I went and I did it with the sole purpose of getting a job that pays well.  Turns out I loved law school. I did really well and ended up loving what I practice. And I make a good living doing it. Sometimes we don’t know what our passions are until we’ve tried different things. 
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    PiSquared got a reaction from musclestuduws in Blackmailed   
    I was stupid on Sniffies and agreed to provide this guy my number so he could text and communicate more easily. Fast forward about three days of chatting and sharing pics to set up an appointment and he dumps the news that I’m being blackmailed by him. Replays all the screen shots and a screen shot showing names of my wife, sons, mom, etc. Do I dare ignore him?  He sounds psychotic and unstable. But he has me over a barrel. I’m distraught. 
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    PiSquared reacted to RadioRob in Blackmailed   
    I work in cyber security where extortion campaigns are very common.  "We have you data...  give us 10 bitcoin or we're going to release your customer data to the internet" or "If you don't pay us XX, we're going to take down your website".
    One of the first rules you learn is you don't negotiate or pay extortionists.  It will start out as "Give me $200 and I'll go away".  A few days later it will be "It's just another $100 and I'll be out of your life."  You're going to be milked until there is nothing more to milk.  
    Lookup phone harassment laws for your state (they vary greatly).  You don't even have to necessarily report him for extortion.  It could end up simply being reported as harassment.  If you've blocked him and he continues swapping numbers it's clearly harassment.  
    In terms of him actually exposing you, at that point...  he no longer has a card to play.  It's game over for him and no money to be made.  So it's much less likely to happen.  I would just block him and move on with your life.  
     
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    PiSquared got a reaction from 56harrisond in Blackmailed   
    I was stupid on Sniffies and agreed to provide this guy my number so he could text and communicate more easily. Fast forward about three days of chatting and sharing pics to set up an appointment and he dumps the news that I’m being blackmailed by him. Replays all the screen shots and a screen shot showing names of my wife, sons, mom, etc. Do I dare ignore him?  He sounds psychotic and unstable. But he has me over a barrel. I’m distraught. 
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    PiSquared got a reaction from LFABWC in Blackmailed on Grindr or Scruff?   
    This is causing me ptsd. Had a RM provider get pissed at me for cancelling our session. He had my cell number and was able to find my full name and FB profile. He posted my FB info on some site he claimed was providers who rated clients and ranted about how awful I was. He threatened to call my wife. Of course in the end it all came down to a demand for money.  
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    PiSquared got a reaction from musclestuduws in Blackmailed on Grindr or Scruff?   
    This is causing me ptsd. Had a RM provider get pissed at me for cancelling our session. He had my cell number and was able to find my full name and FB profile. He posted my FB info on some site he claimed was providers who rated clients and ranted about how awful I was. He threatened to call my wife. Of course in the end it all came down to a demand for money.  
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