KinkyNEguy

it sure is  I aim to please

old but still look  how I look now, more new pics have been uploaded....ur welcome....I took a 2 year break from this....

u shud find out for yourself ;

Randomly getting laid off from a job that I was excelling in and finding yourself to have too much experience and too old and costs too much for the current job market...

Time for a little reality here. You hired a self identified thug and you got roughed up and yet you're surprised?  And you go on a message board and post with the title called "toxic providers?" I don't get it. Why did you hire someone who self identifies as a thug if you don't expect to be roughed up a little bit. And you meet this guy in a bathhouse and then you complain that the room isn't to your liking? You need a serious attitude adjustment. I'm sorry for the dose of reality here, but I kind of think you need it. Do a little soul-searching and come back and report back.

Facts.  There are hustlers and there are professionals and they’re two entirely different things. Professionals want to build their client base and provide their clients with experiences that will inspire reviews, referrals and repeat customers. Hustlers are just trying to get whatever they can in the moment because they are only there to get some money and bounce as quickly as possible while providing as little in return as possible.
some are desperate and do it as a desperate effort to make some quick money. Others like their lives from one game to another and are generally not going to do anything they don’t have to do.! They will gladly rob you and try to extort or scam you if they can.
my advice- good dick aint cheap and cheap dick generally aint good.

Respectfuly, I think you are the one living in a fantasy. That women have lost fundamental rights is a fact. That adults cannot freely access porn in many US locations is a fact. That books are being banned in K-12 libraries is a fact. That the government is attacking educational institutions and operating in their curriculums is a fact. That history is being rewritten and museums intervened is a fact. That freedom of press and expression are under attack are also facts, although those rights are still surviving. That all these attacks, some successful some not yet, are inspired by Christian values and organizations is a fact. Praying is coming back to American schools. That you do not see the advance of Christian Theocracy is also a fact, but I do not think mines are fantasies.

I'm not sure if I'm an anomaly or what, but friendship with clients seems like a very natural result of this kind of work.  If you show up and bring any of your human self to bear in the moment, real connections do happen.  Sometimes you find you have common interests.  Sometimes you just get to know each other over repeated sessions.  There are any number of client/provider situations where people make friends and think nothing of it.  Personal trainers, yoga instructors, hair stylists.  An escort is a more intimate relationship than any of those, so it only stands to reason.
Yes, boundaries are always important.  Most of us juggle varying degrees of complicated lives.  And we can't always be available to everyone all the time.  I've been lucky that pretty much everyone I've met so far has intuitively understood that. 
 
On the question of answered texts, I think what you're observing is not unique to escorts and their clients.  This is an issue with humans who text.  
As a general rule, do not presume to know why a person has left you on read.  You literally have no idea what someone's life might be at any given moment.  Maybe they're driving.   Maybe they opened your text by accident.   Maybe they're about to go into surgery.  And don't presume to know why someone's not looking at your text but their chat light is green.  Maybe they're texting their grandmother on her death bed.  Maybe they're late to an event and texting for directions.  Maybe they just don't have time for you in that moment.  None of this is inconsistent with friendship.  None of this is inconsistent with checking in on you at later time.  You need to be careful not to confuse the access that comes with friendship with 24/7 availability.

I’ll do what I can to fill this information void; I’ve spent A LOT of time with Travis over the years. Hands down one of the most interesting and genuine guys you’ll ever meet. Indeed, it’s a known fact that MGM Studios once joined with HRC to forbid Travis from calling himself a “friend of Dorothy” because he has such an abundance of heart, brains, and courage that the euphemism simply didn’t fit. (Also they couldn’t picture Dorothy befriending a hooker in the woods singing “If I only had more money.”) In case you haven’t noticed my user name I’ll admit that I’m exquisitely biased; however, I’m very self aware and honest, so feel free to ask me anything. Alternatively, I can double the time for the first two gentleman who mention this forum when they book time with me and agree to post an honest review here, whether positive or negative, to help advise others. (My only stipulation is you have to have been a somewhat active member of the forum since before this topic was started, so everyone knows it’s a reliable review.) Cheers!

I love analogies so I’ll bite. That used car isn’t going to change its performance if I negotiate down to $5,000 from the original $6K.  A provider, however, will likely not give his all if he thinks he’s been shortchanged on his rate by a bargain-hunter. 

I've had a couple of times when the guy started going off on politics talk. It's interesting to know their opinions on certain things but it definitely discourages me to seek their services again. It does hint at how bad the political climate is now because of the fact that even in a completely non-political environment, people still get reminded of it and that they'd be inclined enough to talk about it.
But as long as I get what I paid for, I guess it's fine.

You sound crazy.  Leave the guy alone and find someone new. 

I was in a personally rare situation over the last week (but of course doesn't dawn on me until I'm back home) that I could've hired a masseur to come to where I was staying, which really opens up my possibilities tremendously, as many providers are "mobile only". Because I was in a gated complex, I wrongfully assumed I was unable to have a visitor in a home I didn't live in.
There's a guy who I got into a heated text argument with who blocked me back in 2018 whom I saw two prior times. His number is the same today, as is mine. Once blocked, always blocked, or do blocks only last for a certain period of time? Does it vary from carrier to carrier, or when a phone plan renews, do you have to re-block those you had blocked previously?
I'm guessing if I got no response (hypothetically), that the block from him is eternal, but a lot can change in six years, and with me it has. I know his likes from his former adult social media sites, and feel like the newer me would be to his liking. 

He did ask and he said yes but they couldn’t agree on the price for either the detailing or the escorting.

Or, “thank you” … YMMV

I do get wanting a FinSub provider though.  I am definitely looking for a guy where I pay his fee and then he proceeds to give me back hundreds more, access to his bank account and safe deposit boxes, and shower me with had cold cash. That's my kind of kink.
I haven't found one yet though.  😞

Thank you for sharing your experience and I’m glad it was different than mine. I will say, he seemed generally surprised and disappointed when I refused the "payment upfront" thing. My little head was telling me to take a chance, but thankfully my big head won out. If you find yourself talking to him about it again, please encourage him to just be upfront at the very beginning with his policy.
It’s easy to say "no" with no hard feelings at the very beginning. Waiting until the time of the scheduled meet up burns a little. 

At clothing-optional men-only pools in Palm Springs and Florida, I've been greeted with underwater blowjobs and rim jobs.  In each case, I am cordial and cary on my conversation with others nearby in the pool, then introduce myself to the fellow who blew or rimmed me when he comes up for air.
Similarly, when I've given underwater blowjobs in the pool, the men politely waited until I came up for air before stopping to introduce themselves and let me know if they were partnered, etc.
It's these social graces unique to gay men's pools that need to be taught and passed down to each new generation, especially with the confusing #MeToo movement overreaction to everything.

Yeah, I’d say you’re swimming in the wrong pool. Stick to the shallow end of the kiddie pool and you’ll be fine.
While no one likes unwanted touch, I personally don’t think of it as "tantamount to assault". In my youth, I’d simply thought it was part of a gay man’s right of passage. The other day I was at a bar and a woman in her 70s was sitting next to me with her son and carrying on. "In my day, if you went out on the town and a man wasn’t pitching your ass you, weren’t doing it right". Her son was mortified and scolded her. I bought her a drink.
At the same time, if I politely brushed your hand away and you persisted, then I would grab you firmly by the wrist and say "if you fucking touch me again, I’ll break your goddamn wrist". Problem solved. Every time. #punklife

Eh, naked gay resorts tend to advertise as a bathhouse environment so it's not quite the same thing IMO. That said, a no of any kind should be immediately respected and any kind of penetration attempt is not an opening move.
 
Also, i am not someone who goes doing those things because I'm generally not bold, but, say, a squeeze of my butt by someone I'm chatting with when we're both naked isn't something I think is totally unexpected/outrageous.  But persisting after I have declined is not acceptable behavior.
 
 

I would take it as a compliment...would only get pissed off if he persisted after I told him "no"

I always say that tastes in sexual attraction are like tastes in foods.  One person may love liver and onions while another person only eats ice cream and some people are happy to eat whatever they can get.  
My sexual attractions are REALLY broad.  (I’m a bisexual/pansexual man.) One of my many attractions is towards feminine cisgender men.  Whether they are top, bottom, or side is almost irrelevant.  I like feminine men as one of the many flavors from the buffet that I like.
I’m not feminine.  I’m a former firefighter and martial arts teacher and I’m probably what you’d expect someone like that to be like.
If you like feminine men, or are a feminine man, please chime in here.  Maybe we can network some.
 

The providers charge what they want to charge, I pay what I want to pay.  If/when the two align, we have a great time together.

Exactly, they have a right to quote any fee they want, just like we have a right to conclude that it’s ridiculous and stop the conversation.  I know what the median range in NYC is and will simply not engage with anyone who quotes a rate significantly higher than that.

Providers can charge whatever they want, I am boycotting outrageous hourly rates.