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it's hard to walk away from someone when they have either been good to you (and aren't anymore) or if you can't get them out of your head...

been there. 

but I'm continually grateful to this forum for steering me in the right direction. 

2 hours ago, tchm said:

YES. Scammers and escorts masquerading as masseurs have practically taken over the industry.

It feels like they're used to be a LOT more legit choices out there. 

At the LEAST I wish there was a way to tell the difference between scammers and escorts. 

"6'3" 220 lbs." pushes all my buttons but I'd feel better if the pix (which are great) showed a massage table and him massaging someone.

Is it really that hard to find a solid masseur in Los Angeles?

6’5”?

18 hours ago, Otterlybelievable said:

I’ve booked him twice and both times were great experiences and he’s been really friendly (even texting afterwards to wish me a great night and say he hopes I enjoyed the massage, etc). But ever since, anytime he’s been in town and I’ve reached out to him with a general inquiry (“hey, saw that you’re back in my town, would love to book with you if you’re available on these days at these times”), it’s been radio silence. I know he’s definitely one of the more in demand traveling masseurs but after apparently being ghosted, I can’t say I’d personally recommend him. 

that sucks, man. I've had some faves in the past and it's one thing when they leave the business but when they do the ghost thing it bites...seeing the ads is a reminder they're out there. 

Occasionally, I'll give it a little time and then circle back; it turns out the person was busy or they got flooded with requests the same time I reached out; these aren't excuses...but they could be reasons. 

I have found it tough to find a good regular person in LA. 

welp. Nice smile. nice chest and I'm a sucker for tall guys and he's 6'3" but once again this forum and comments and reviews have saved me from an unfulfilling experience. 

it's not just the money (though these days it IS the money) it's getting your hopes up that a winning smile isn't so winning after all. 

LA Metro sounds like it's a part of LA that's accessible by the train...looks like a cool guy and I would take a therapeutic-only guy who's great over a rub and tug any day of the week. 

Alas, I'm in LA/Hollywood and he doesn't seem close. But if I'm ever out that way...

On 3/19/2023 at 1:49 PM, Whippoorwill said:

For many years when I was in my 30's I saw a (gym-shorted and tee- shirted) masseur who provided me with excellent therapeutic massages. One time when I arrived, his lover answered the street-facing door wearing only a cockring. I wasn't sure what he was trying to convey, but I was too young and inexperienced to find out. Today I would just grab the goods, get on my knees, and trade the massage for a 3-way, me in the middle. Ah the lost opportunities of a misspent youth. 

I didn't quite have that opportunity but yes, there were similar moments, parallels... I always cautioned on the side of playing it safe. It was just a different era. Today might be different. (Alas, there's COVID now.) 

that's a bummer, GTMike. I get that guys can have an 'off' day but when I undress and hop on a table, the last thing I want to do is be around someone who's dismissive. 

Won't being exceptionally nice lead to future business? 

no coverings; no proper lotion; it's like they don't WANT repeat business.

I've had two or three great masseurs get out of the business one way or another. But  there's never a shortage of bad ones, alas. 

I'm so sorry this happened to you. it's easy for anyone else to say 'it's just money' but when I've had crap like this happen to me (we ALL make mistakes) I wonder if God was just pushing me out of the way from something far worse; what if you'd met them and they were on drugs and something worse occurred. 

thanks for warning us; you're helping others and I wish you luck in getting $$ back. 

When I lose or waste money, I try to cut back on simple things like going out for coffee and just have instant for a few months. It adds up $$

glad I don't live in NY; he's just my type; big beefy jock type. 

$700? He'd need to be an overnighter and hold me till I fell asleep after lots and lots of fun. 

I had a great massage from him. was it the best I'd ever had in my life? probably not but I would see him regularly if I lived in SF. 

I was going through a bad period and when I got his table, I just felt incredibly safe. 

He was very kind. 

4 hours ago, poolboy48220 said:

I'm kind of of the same mind as that guy ... actually, more of the mind that I'm leery of someone my dog doesn't like. I do close the bedroom door when I'm hosting so my dog doesn't come in. She has come in after we're done and I haven't run into a provider who minds that yet.

And yes, If a dog I loved didn’t like someone I’d take notice 

4 hours ago, poolboy48220 said:

I'm kind of of the same mind as that guy ... actually, more of the mind that I'm leery of someone my dog doesn't like. I do close the bedroom door when I'm hosting so my dog doesn't come in. She has come in after we're done and I haven't run into a provider who minds that yet.

I love dogs too but it was the way he said it. Kind of like this will be a dealbreaker. I was there for an hour for a massage. It wasn’t a friendship

One guy told me he could never be friends with anyone who didn’t love his dog

his dog stayed in the. Room with us and licked my hand a few times

i love dogs but didn’t want him in 5he room but I was afraid to ask him to put the dog out

1 hour ago, DWnyc said:

Agree with that 100%
not always a bad thing 

 

no, it's not a bad thing. It made me feel better about the 'relationship' I had -- such as it was. It was never going to be anything more than what it was but what it was wasn't so bad. I'd do overnighters and from the minute I got there till the minute we parted, I felt ...this is nice. This is what it's like when someone cares. I was able to get out of my own way and not get hung up on why it would never be anything more. I was, as I've often been advised to be, 'in the moment.' 

1 hour ago, DWnyc said:

Never my birthday - that’s just too personal info to share with a provider (before getting into the potential security implications)

I would be horrified if I got one on V-day from a provider (I’m horrified by some I get from real life contacts) …

but Christmas, new year, thanksgiving etc quite regularly - and I take it for what it is, good business, civility, and perhaps even sincerity. I always reciprocate in kind and unless there is a specific ask / offer mentioned (which there often is - “for the holidays I’m reducing my rates …” etc) I just restrict it to a direct response to the greeting. 

I wished a provider happy Christmas when seeing him right before the holidays one year, he got a bit gruff and said he had no family he was close to, it was just another day to him … it opened the door to a lengthy conversation about how he had no real friends and whether he was happy with that. This was as I was leaving and caused me to linger for a while (fully clothed, one foot out the door). There was almost a “do you wanna hang out just as friends right now” moment but probably only in my head - so I didn’t push it - and I said to him he could call me if he ever felt he needed company - just as friends - in the way i call him when I feel I need company …  he laughed and said he wouldn’t be able to afford me. Yes there’s a deep message there and I’ll keep it to myself  

 

you're a psychiatrist? or an accountant

I was messing around with a guy one time and I didn’t think I wanted to get fucked but I felt so safe and was so turned on and I trusted him and I said ok I’m ready! 

he chuckled, kissed me on the forehead, and said, ‘oh baby I’m not going to fuck you.’

looking back, he didn’t say why but I got the impression it was because he felt I couldn’t handle his size - huge! 

I let out a ‘oh, thank God!’ and we sent back to making out.

A masseur sent me a GIF of roses 🌹 on feb 14 once which was sweet 

another provider I saw on my birthday; he bought dinner and gave me flowers and bought me a gift. I wasn’t expecting any of that

we’ve shared a few holiday texts

its not real in the way I’d like it to be but it is what it is

someone famous told me once that every relationship is transactional 

thats true, I suppose

looks like a nice, legit guy; might try him for a stretching session. 

That seems to be the big focus these days, being limber and be able to move. 

On 2/1/2023 at 10:49 PM, Yoyohey said:

Seemed TGTBT

the more I look at his pix and read the description...I have to agree. 

that third pic -- showing his massive chest -- makes me weak in the knees. I'd pay for an hour just to rest my head on it. 

But I'd need to see some positive reviews for a bit before taking a plunge. 

On 2/8/2023 at 9:20 PM, DWnyc said:

Reminded me of a bizarre experience: 

As a provider takes me up to his hotel room he asks “do you like groups?” And while opening door the I see he has a friend there … I say I’m not donating more than agreed and I’m told the other guy is free as they’re sharing a room and it’s late and he has nowhere else to go. I ran out claiming I felt ill and it was nothing to do with them (my gut said this was weird and scary so get out without angering them). I got abusive texts the whole night saying I owed him double the amount discussed (for 2 people).

 

 

listening to your gut might have saved your life that night. 

how unnerving; you clearly did the right thing. stay safe.