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Does anyone know if RyanWest is still based on Long Beach? I see he's in (or is visiting) Houston right now. 

TIA!

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5 hours ago, aeikaryoko said:

Saw him a while back. Provides a really good, but also very therapeutic massage. No extras and drapes included. 

Sometimes that’s exactly what I need the most

Sim, thanks for sharing . It sounds like you don't regret the experience. (Do I have that right?)

I saw Josh maybe twice over 20 years ago and they weren't as intimate as yours; I recall a massage and maybe a HE? Not sure. 

I don't recall the massage being that great. and I didn't see him more than 2x. It might have been just once.

I used to think these encounters weren't real (whatever that means) and empty. Then, COVID hit. and I had no intimacy at all. 

I think if we have the chance to go for any happiness, we should it's here and then...gone. (As a writer once put it.) 

he looks like the last guy you'd want to square off against in wrestling in gym class in high school -- and the first guy you might want to wrestle with today.  

Thx! 

13 hours ago, aeikaryoko said:

He did heavy inhale/exhale which I in my opinion heightens the experience. Participation is not required, but I went with it. He did breathe into my ear and I found that very hot. 

thanks, Aeikaryoko, that does sound hot and intimate. My favorite massages aren't ones in which we dive into some heavy fun or play but where there's more of a nurturing connection; where he's in control and you feel taken care of. 

Is Vance based in PS or does he come to LA, do you know? TIA

serious question: what is breath work?

Does he ask you to do certain breathing or does he just lean in a little bit and breathe on your neck or into your ear to make it hot?

Thanks. 

29 minutes ago, Capitano said:

Oh, no, a total vibe killer.

not only a vibe killer but what if only brought enough for the previously agreed upon rate? 

I guess today there's Venmo but...that leaves an electronic trail; my big fear is that some ideal type is working on me and I'm totally relaxed and then, the upsell hits and I say yes and he goes okay, u r under arrest. 

4 minutes ago, FLJock said:

I agree with everything you said.  Problem is I'm not sure how different a second session would be if I go in paying for X experience...I kind of prefer to have a set price and if things happen organically because there's chemistry then I'm all for it.  I do try to tip accordingly for extras, assuming of course I got what the ad is for, a decent massage experience.

but isn't it different now in that you know what to expect? 

not trying to champion either seeing him again or not....and I am hesitant to ever confirm anything in text that's too specific but sometimes I might say, 'what we did last time was great; does that all (meaning expectations and fee) work for you?' 

But even if I were to agree to an upsell midway through I might not repeat. That leaves a bad taste - so to speak. I've had too many fortuante instances where chemistry takes over. 

I GET what this exchange is with providers. But...if I can fool myself into thinking just for the moment that this is something organic....well, why not. 

upsells after you're already, ahem, paying attention drive me bananas. 

It's a tough call; I prefer a solid massuer who knows what he's doing and charges a rate he can live with and if there's any chemistry between us, yay! 

If you hit it off and this time you know what you're getting into and you don't have anyone else then, sure; I have had some pretty empty experiences over the years. Then, COVID hit and there was no intimacy on any level in my life for years. Even now it's risky to go out there. But..if a little happiness comes along, however brief, I think we owe it to ourselves to go for it. 

how can it be YMMV when he's doing it in a busy chiropractic office?

I've been there; it's bustling with activity; he'd have to put a ball gag in my mouth to keep me from crying out if our 'mileage started to vary' 

Wait.🤔

6’4”

220 lbs

swoon but only a member for a few days 

hopefully Some reviews will appear soon 

2 hours ago, FLJock said:

Agreed, I've gone the str8 masseur route, usually for a change of pace (but sometimes because I've done everyone else).  

The last one I saw, however, was my wife this and my wife that, which didn't bother me too much as we were talking relationships and generalities.  When I turned over I was surprised that the ending started to get happy but also that he pulled out a very thick, very hard tool, which I got to play with for a bit.  So you just never know.  

I would gently suggest that he's more 'straight to bed' than 'straight' 

I work in show business and am regularly meeting aspiring actors and it almost becomes a game where I can guess how quickly it will take the actor to work into casual conversation 'well, my wife...' 'well, my girlfriend...' 

I swear one time I joked 'how long is she going to be in Canada?' "Did I tell you that?'

I could be wrong but I don't come off threatening or leering; I think some guys are just so conditioned to include subtly or not so subtly that they're straight that they don't even know how it comes off; of course, many are indeed straight; others? not so much. 

3 hours ago, rustyrex said:

I gave up on masseurfinder years ago and as soon as guys starting charging outrageous fees without any type of skill I went to a local guy.  He’s gay friendly and married but has thrown hints…I don’t let it go to far because he’s the type to back away and tell me he doesn’t want me  as a client if it goes to far.   Usually book an hour and a half it’s almost a steal. The massage is pretty good and I don’t feel ripped off because I don’t expect anything more.  Going to the other sites however, I end up paying more and might get some playtime with someone who isn’t trained but I expect more due to the overt advertising of erotic or sensual. Sometimes it’s anything but that.  Glad I found a regular guy that is reasonable.

I have times in my life when I really just want to go in and collapse on a guy's table and have him nurture me. I can always take care of business before I arrive or after I get home.

Knowing he's straight takes all the 'will he or won't he' (MOST of the time) from the equation/experience. 

I think I've been to the chiropractic office where he works and he might have worked on me ONCE when my regular guy was out. I was in for several treatments after getting rear ended (don't...it's too easy; it was a car.) 

I think after wrapping his arms around me for the adjustment he might have said something like 'don't try to break free' and I said, 'I can't.' His arms were that huge. Or maybe that was just in my head.

I remember him having lots of charisma and he did a good adjustment. I'd be up for trying him for a massage. Frankly, I have had instances where I go for a sensual massage and the guy slaps on a condom and asks if I want to get penetrated or when I'm on my back, he'll jump on me and try to ride me. 

Those are rare instances for sure but there's something about going in for something simply therapeutic, especially if he's really good at it. 

Does anyone know if he does massage out of the chiropractic office? or somewhere nearby? 

TIA  

This is a great post, SamMiller.

I couldn't agree more on your points. There's something off (For me, personally) about when I text for info on parking, head rest or not and rates and I get a rate sheet with $ options for MT/HE. Makes me feel like I'm just a number. ("You are, Blanche! You are!")  

I prefer to just see how things unfold -- or not. 

I've mostly been extremely lucky hiring off websites and print ads back in the day. (One guy brandished a gun and I did my best not to react.)

I think it's a good idea to do a search based on what you suggest. That said I did find a real gem recently on MF. 

If you have any LA recommendations you can PM me on that would be appreciated. Thanks!

once again this forum has saved me $ and heartache. 

my guess is guys who advertise one way but claim legit and no erotic are YMMV type guys. They probably do erotic but want to give themselves an out in case someone they just can't with. 

when he flew on the plane from Hawaii to NY did he have a note taped to his shirt in case he got lost?

Seriously, he's a young one. 

A great experience is priceless but an unfulfilling one at dirt cheap rates is a waste of time and money. I like his line about opening doors together. But, yeah, a little pricey even if I were in SF. (But I see he's coming back(?) to LA later this month)

Oh that’s too bad

i mean good for him but sad for us and the rest of the world

I see what you did there

my only suggestion to anyone trying Jason O is to ask him not to go TOO deep. I was way too sore after our massage. He definitely knows what he's doing but it was just too deep. 

the other guy in this thread makes me never want to eat a carb again

too bad; looks like a big teddy bear

can spooning be added to a massage?