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LA market starts at 350/hr. It’s one of a handful of places that is more expensive than most metros hovering around 300 average for any guy, regardless of looks, experience, or performance/reputation. Not sure about Ubers or other expenses, but purely for the provider’s hourly service charge, LA has been at 350 for at least a few years. I would not expect this particular market to fall downward, as it is a large metro with many a monied man willing to spend as much, if not more. Maybe some of the guys who were over pricing in recent years will either lower their fees or exit the industry. Those of us charging a reasonable rate aren’t changing. Some I know are considering raising their prices. Hate to break it to you gents, but prices are not exactly plummeting.

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Something to keep in mind when oversimplifying numbers like this into a table is upcharges. Some of these masseurs provide therapeutic only service under their base rates, but offer sensual and/or erotic upgrades for an upcharge (nudity, mutual touch, HE, sometimes more), while others offer similar services inclusive in their base pricing. Michael, for example, charges (in my opinion) a fair rate for good quality therapeutic only work (135/hr), but you would need to add $50 for mutual nude, and an ending you might want/expect many others to provide under their base pricing. That actually makes it 185/hr in this example. While the “YMMV” concept applies for many providers who do not explicitly upcharge, some of those that do break out upcharges end up being more than the base rate of the guys that include all (or sometimes more) than what the other guys’ upcharges cover. It’s not all apples to apples when you take this factor into account. Of course there are other factors to consider when evaluating the overall value and in particular the value to the individual based on his preferences. However, we can quantify some basic objective things like what is included and for how much total fee for an hour session. If you want to plug a bunch of masseurs into a table and compare them fairly to get an average, you need to adjust for upcharges first. I haven’t seen everyone on the list, so you guys will have to make suggestions to improve the quality of @7829V ‘s quick analysis. Some of these rates may need adjusting, some may not.

I echo the many sound advice comments so far, but since what you’re looking for is relatively quite low risk, I recommend PrEP and DoxyPEP. PrEP has no serious side effects or negative health consequences for most people. Your doctor will monitor your tests to confirm whether PrEP is safe for you to take. Condoms won’t help you much because almost no men who have sex with men use condoms for oral sex or frottage. Condoms are a great idea for anal sex, though. All of the following you will find out at a sexual health clinic or by seeing your doctor, so you don’t have to take my word for it. For those of you not visiting health clinics or just curious, I am including a bit more detailed discussion to clarify some of the finer points brought up only in passing so far. Minor correction in terminology. DoxyPrEP is not a thing. PEP stands for post exposure prophylaxis, not to be confused with PrEP (pre-exposure prophylaxis) which is used for HIV. DoxyPEP is for sexually transmitted bacterial infections. You don’t take DoxyPEP before (ie pre-), for reasons @BeamerBikes explained related to how the medication works, but also because you may not, for whatever reason end up proceeding with sexual contact after you take the pills. Your provider or hookup may flake. You may decide in the moment that you don’t want to proceed, or you end up not having direct contact… but it’s too late now because you’re already on antibiotics whether you have reason to be or not. It’s bad for your overall health and immune system to frequently be on antibiotics. Not only does this accelerate antibiotic resistance for you and for the greater population, but it makes your body more susceptible to all kinds of infections besides the sexually transmitted ones. I mention this to help you determine if DoxyPEP is right for you. I am not a doctor so take this with a grain of salt and talk to your actual doctor about it, but I will suggest that DoxyPEP is not a great solution for people seeking frequent encounters such as daily or weekly and also wanting to take the medication every time they have sexual contact. Even monthly encounters can be problematic because it takes a while for your system to fully reset after a round of any antibiotic, maybe a week or sometimes more every time. Taking DoxyPEP on perhaps a monthly frequency means that your body is operating in a suboptimal state for at least one out of every four weeks. If you’re having contact on a weekly basis and taking DoxyPEP every time, that means your body is perpetually in an suboptimal state. Some people can’t take DoxyPEP at all because they are immunocompromised or have some other health condition. Your doctor will advise you based on your medical history. DoxyPEP is great for otherwise healthy people having less frequent encounters, like every few months, twice a year, etc, but also for those who have more frequent encounters but use DoxyPEP more judiciously rather than every time. For example, when seeing partners you believe are particularly higher risk for whatever reason. Or when a partner tells you after the fact that they tested positive for an STI and you are still in the window of time for which taking DoxyPEP is likely to prevent an infection. Or when having contact with multiple people over a short period. Think: bathhouse visits, cumdump situations (as a bottom OR top, because tops are exposed to a lot of other people’s cum) bukkake, or multiple separate encounters in a 24 hr period. These are higher risk because of the sheer number of points of contact and would be good times to use DoxyPEP, to reduce your risk of any one of these points of contact resulting in an infection. For the person having low risk sexual contact such as oral sex with one partner every week or two, I don’t see as much benefit for them in taking DoxyPEP every time. The drawbacks of chronic antibiotic use (in my layman’s opinion) outweigh the marginal benefit of reducing your (already low) risk of getting bacterial STIs through oral contact. Nothing completely eliminates your risk. Someone unwilling to accept even a marginal level of risk has no business having sex with anyone. The key is to manage, reduce, and accept your personal level of risk. Another few important points worth mentioning… 1) DoxyPEP reduces, but does not eliminate your risk of bacterial STIs. Some people treat it like it makes them invincible. This is not true. This is about reducing, rather than eliminating risk. 2) DoxyPEP, many of you may not know, is pretty bad at preventing gonorrhea infections. While it is pretty darn good at stopping chlamydia and syphilis infections when used as prescribed, it is NOT a good way to reduce your risk of getting gonorrhea. You get gonorrhea the same ways you get the other two, and it is possible to transmit all of these orally, not just anally. Please note, the treatment for oral gonorrhea is different than for gonorrhea in your urethra or rectum. I mention this in case some of you are trying to treat an infection more discreetly through an online pharmacy service or black market drug peddler rather than through your doctor. Your doctor will know what to prescribe. Don’t try to treat infections on your own. It causes you and your partners more harm. 3) Other STIs exist. Just because they are less common doesn’t mean you can’t get them. Any man who has sex with men should talk to his doctor about vaccinations like Mpox, and Hepatitis A/B. Giardia is a thing, as are other lesser known sexually transmitted infections.

Depends on the nature of the service. Therapeutic only masseurs get annoyed at nude pic requests because what they look like naked isn’t particularly relevant for the service they are advertising. But…I know there’s a lot of gray area in who offers what to whom and when and for how much. My view is if any escort style services are explicitly on offer or even implied as on offer, a masseur / SW should not be surprised or offended by the request, and should be willing to share freely. You want to sell your ass? Show your ass. You want to sell your massage skills without any sexual things or nudity? Market your skills. Your looks are only a bonus for those that like your look. Being naked, offering mutual touch, happy endings or more, all depend on the individual masseur. Some offer extras, some don’t. I think it’s ok to ask for nudes from masseurs that advertise in a way that suggests they offer more than therapeutic massage. That doesn’t mean they are obligated to share nudes, but that’s their decision to lean into what they are selling by offering a preview or not. Whether they share pics or not, some clients will bite, some won’t.

Another way to address healthcare access is to own a business with one or more business partners. You can get a group plan through a broker this way, and there is no limit on what you can report for your provider business income. My partner and I are only a two person farm business, but we get to hand select our health insurance plans to suit our needs, and we write off all of our farm business expenses and healthcare expenses, including premiums. With ACA coverage, you may only have a few plan options in your state. Same with coverage through an employer, only a few options that may or may not meet your particular healthcare needs. That may be fine for most people like me with uncomplicated needs, but leaves a lot of us falling through the cracks. My partner has a lot of complicated health issues. He is only capable of working part time. This is one of many reasons I continue to work as a provider. With our group plan, a broker helps him hand select a plan offering coverage for all of his specialty healthcare providers. The premium is quite high, at over 1k / month, but he maxes out his out of pocket expenses early in the year. Virtually all of his care is free after that. Just one of his half dozen specialty healthcare providers, for instance, would have cost him 38k over the whole year. I would be fine with an ACA or employer sponsored plan, but me being a part of our group plan gives my partner access to lots of benefits we wouldn’t have if we were beholden to employers or state healthcare.

Thanks TT. I’m alright. I can’t post information here re: who he is. Agree; the lengths some people go to harrass us is truly breathtaking. This is but one small window into a provider’s world. Dealing with people like this is mild compared to others.

Someone sharing strikingly similar views as the OP - and perhaps a couple other members sympathetic to his views on this thread - has been harassing me since 7/1/23, from no less than seventeen different phone numbers. I keep ignoring him and blocking immediately for…literally, years now…but he just keeps getting new numbers and spewing the same bs every few weeks or months. I am so tired of it. It’s not just me either. I know others in the industry he reaches out to with the same types of messages, some of them repeatedly, but especially me. He’s obsessed. Since I am fairly certain he will text me from yet a new number after I post this, I am going to hopefully stop him from doing so by stating that I intend to follow up by posting all of his new messages here with dates until he stops. If he leaves me alone, good riddance. If he doesn’t stop, you will all know about it, with redactions in keeping with the site guidelines. Here are just a few of his more recent messages. Note the message in yellow highlight referring to my earlier comment on this thread. He clearly is aware of this thread content, so it has to be someone here - if not a registered member, then a viewer. There are a bunch of other messages from 2023, 2024, and 2025, but I won’t bother collecting all of them. You get the gist. Who has time for this?

I didn’t. It was all too much. After years of weekend and evening provider work (about full time, just opposite schedule) and working a full time 8-5 job in an office, I just about collapsed. My well being suffered, but I made good money. So I quit my straight job and now work for myself providing services full time. Best decision ever, for pretty much all aspects of my life. One of my friends works full time from home. He makes enough to pay all his bills. He does our work part time nights and weekends for extra money, and for his personal fulfillment helping others in this unique way that we do. He only sees regulars now, doesn’t advertise anymore. He works with me for clients who want us for groups though. Kind of nice having premium access! I think stopping advertising after retaining a certain number of regulars is his way of limiting what might otherwise become unmanageable, contrary to my approach. He’s smarter in that regard. More power to him. @DznNYC has a full time job. He will have more to contribute. He’s in a busy season at the moment however, so maybe it will take more time for him to see this and comment.

New RentMen profile. Or at least using the same pics as RIOXX before: NandoSoutho No opinion on him, just happened to notice in the course of RentMen shopping and researching for a client interested in him.