Simon Suraci

I typically craft my initial reply to address everything in the client’s initial text that I can answer. I usually start by pasting a stock response and then modifying to personalize, answering anything else the client brought up. How we reply definitely matters and I believe makes a difference in my business. I try to answer the what, where, when, and how much questions so the client has all the basic information to make a decision. I also make an effort to be friendly, but this doesn’t always translate easily in text form. Tone varies, but I avoid mirroring the gruff, sometimes rude messages I receive. I try not to take it personally. By putting in a lot of effort responding thoughtfully to tons of messages that never go anywhere, I pick up the good clients along the way and keep them as reliable regulars requiring less maintenance. The bad ones drop off once they make themselves known. It takes work up front, including lots of annoying exchanges and dealing with rude people. However, I will never win those good clients over if I just reply with a rate. It’s like mining for gold. Lots of long, patient sediment sifting. I can’t complain to the gold flecks about all the dirt I had to pan out to find them. Every once in a while I even find a nugget. It’s work doing the work, but it’s also work getting the work. When you do enough of both, your schedule fills up and you reap the rewards. The strategy I like best is to make yourself so busy with good regulars that you don’t have to deal with the bad apples. They can’t occupy space in your schedule or your mind! It takes years of patience to get there. People on these forums are, on average, better clients than who we deal with on a daily basis. Anyone spending time asking questions about the best way to craft a message to a provider is going to be levels of magnitude better to work with than the guys we sometimes complain about. Providers mention the rude, unserious, flaky, or people outright taking advantage of us all the time, but most of you here are not those people. It’s unfortunate you have to be the recipients of so much disdain when you represent fewer of the reasons for us feeling our frustrations. You are here reading and listening when the people that most need to hear it would never take the time nor give the bandwidth to hear it out, much less take it to heart. The times I post about bad actor clients I relent later, thinking this is the wrong audience. With few exceptions, my COM clients are great men. I’m sorry you guys have to bear the brunt of so many providers venting about things a lot of you here you either don’t do, or correct when you learn from collective wisdom here how to better conduct yourselves. Thank you for being the best clients.

For all of the above: please clarify is this for a 60 min, 90 min, or 120 min session?

Anyone here have experience with red light therapy? With a wellness professional, or maybe with a provider? I know some providers incorporating red light into their therapeutic m4m bodywork services and their clients are benefiting. I bought a red light therapy wand for myself and I found it helps with muscle soreness and inflammation. The rest of the claims I have not had experience with yet to see if they are true. Some providers swear by it. I liken the sentiment to Gus from My Big Fat Greek Wedding saying “Put some windex on it”. Among the many alleged benefits: Pain Relief - Eases chronic pain conditions, such as arthritis and fibromyalgia - Reduces muscle soreness and inflammation Hair Growth - Promotes hair growth - Treats hair loss conditions Wound Healing - Enhances tissue regeneration and accelerates wound closure - Reduces scarring and hyperpigmentation Skin Health - Improves skin tone and texture - Treats acne and rosacea - Accelerates wound healing - Reduces wrinkles and fine lines Also, *may*: - Improve mood and reduce anxiety - Enhance athletic performance - Promote bone growth and healing

Thank you all for your great suggestions. As expected, we were only able to cover a fraction of the topics I would have liked to during the limited time we had. While I sent a long list of questions and subtopics to inspire the hosts, it was ultimately up to them to select what they most wanted to ask. As always, you are all welcome to “ask me anything” any time. I realized after listening that I mispoke when I plugged this site, saying THE company of men dot org (when it’s simply companyofmen.org). Sorry about that. I know that it’s the latter but goofed up in the moment. People will find us here, I’m sure. A quick google and it will pop up, with or without the “The”. Here is the podcast for any who are interested in listening to the interview. The interview portion starts right at 16:00 minutes in, if you want to skip their intro stuff, news stuff, etc. Gayish: 463 Sex Workers (w/ Simon Suraci) PODCASTS.APPLE.COM Podcast Episode · Gayish Podcast · 11/06/2025 · 1h 17m

This sentiment unfortunately represents a minority on these boards. If we spent half as much energy here talking about actual talent than we do how old a guy is or what he weighs, or how big his dick is, or how much sex he will give for a massage fee, we could power a city indefinitely!

Totally agree with what Jamie said. I answer calls, but not random unexpected ones. All I ask is for clients to schedule a mutually agreeable time for their call. Then I will pick up. It’s easy to schedule a call using text to request a time. Or email, or whatever platform they are contacting me on. If they are totally averse to written communication, they can simply leave me a voicemail and I will call them back when I am able. I leave them a voicemail when they can’t take my call right away. I don’t understand why this is so complicated. I think part of the problem is that some clients expect us to be available at any time they want. We aren’t.

I have a room at InnDulge booked that weekend. I’m not sure yet if I will attend.

Same here. I prefer to book clients in advance. Same day is a crapshoot.

Saw this above an airport urinal the other day and made me ponder 🤔… Are we really at the point in our civilization where we have to post signs in public places saying essentially: “DON’T DRINK THE TOILET WATER” ?

Business investor client asks me to breed him. I oblige him, making a large deposit. I notice his Venmo transaction memo: ”Seed Money”

Yes. I’ll follow up once it’s available.

A podcast is interviewing me soon. We’re going to talk about m4m sex work. The audience is primarily gay men and other LGBTQ+ folks, but isn’t as knowledgeable as most of you here on The Company of Men. Most of them have never hired a masseur or sex worker before. They will want to know all the basics. It’s hard for me to step back and put myself in the shoes of someone who knows almost nothing about the profession, or perhaps has misconceptions about our work. What questions would you ask me? What do you think I should cover? Is there anything you would like other men who are interested in men to know about hiring? Any advice for them? Some topic ideas: General What is sex work? Who does sex work? Who hires sex work? Why is sex work important and valuable? Is sex work really work? Economics How much do sex workers make? Why does it cost so much? What about discounts? Do I tip my sex worker? How much? How do I receive the best value for my money? Do sex workers pay taxes? What methods of payment can I use? Risks, Personal Safety Is sex work legal? Is sex work safe? What about STIs? Will I get in trouble? Are sex workers discreet? Will anyone find out? How do sex workers screen? How do I select a good sex worker? How do I avoid fraud and scams? Practical Matters Cum Erections Performance Stamina Hygiene Sex roles, preferences Communication Expectations Other Why do you do this work? Do sex workers have romantic relationships?

I couldn’t have said it better. I have the same experience as you organizing groups for my clients. The porn stars, content creators, insta-gays, and similar types are often the worst hires, that is, if they show up at all. So flaky. Some won’t respond to a legit straightforward business inquiry, and others are too precious about basic details. These guys sure are beautiful on the outside, but make for lousy (and flaky!) providers. My opinion is clients are better off enjoying these guys’ porn and saving their bigger dollars for experienced providers who take in-person work seriously, who actually care about making clients feel good. Some of them in this group will have chiseled abs and look like they are in their 20s, but they are a minority. You don’t always have to choose one or the other, but if you want a quality experience, a lot of the insta gay looking guys won’t fit the bill, or even show up at all!