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Also some people just have trouble letting it go with someone watching, I have met a guy like that before. He doesn't mind if I watch from kinda the distance but when I get next to him, it just won't come out

Yeah, I think expecting a dancer to be naked during the first song is crazy. I always go back there expecting to spend min 100, that gives wiggle room. You can't expect everything at once, also it would be way less enticing. 

What year was this? Not in the past 15 years for sure.

What year was this? Not in the past 15 years for sure.

I've never had trouble with getting the dancer I want to be generous with his body. I much rather feel the cock growing in the underwear, have some seduction. Then a guy just whipping his dick out in the first minute hoping I won't leave.  You already should be able to tell from his stage presence and his convo how things are going to go, you just need to ask the right questions.
If before we go in back, there is a list of ground rules, no kissing, touching the ass etc, I'm out. Not that I need to kiss, but I know it's gonna be very strict back there. Likewise if you ask for certain things and they give vague answers, I know that won't be happening, and I'm out too. 
For example, Vinnie won't get hard until the 4th song. I know he is a boring straight guy in the back, but the body is really good and Iike to experience that for what it is a few times a year. But for me it's worth it to wait in songs, and I've been offered small extras over the years.

I've never had trouble with getting the dancer I want to be generous with his body. I much rather feel the cock growing in the underwear, have some seduction. Then a guy just whipping his dick out in the first minute hoping I won't leave.  You already should be able to tell from his stage presence and his convo how things are going to go, you just need to ask the right questions.
If before we go in back, there is a list of ground rules, no kissing, touching the ass etc, I'm out. Not that I need to kiss, but I know it's gonna be very strict back there. Likewise if you ask for certain things and they give vague answers, I know that won't be happening, and I'm out too. 
For example, Vinnie won't get hard until the 4th song. I know he is a boring straight guy in the back, but the body is really good and Iike to experience that for what it is a few times a year. But for me it's worth it to wait in songs, and I've been offered small extras over the years.

I've never had trouble with getting the dancer I want to be generous with his body. I much rather feel the cock growing in the underwear, have some seduction. Then a guy just whipping his dick out in the first minute hoping I won't leave.  You already should be able to tell from his stage presence and his convo how things are going to go, you just need to ask the right questions.
If before we go in back, there is a list of ground rules, no kissing, touching the ass etc, I'm out. Not that I need to kiss, but I know it's gonna be very strict back there. Likewise if you ask for certain things and they give vague answers, I know that won't be happening, and I'm out too. 
For example, Vinnie won't get hard until the 4th song. I know he is a boring straight guy in the back, but the body is really good and Iike to experience that for what it is a few times a year. But for me it's worth it to wait in songs, and I've been offered small extras over the years.

Yeah, I think expecting a dancer to be naked during the first song is crazy. I always go back there expecting to spend min 100, that gives wiggle room. You can't expect everything at once, also it would be way less enticing. 

Yeah, I think expecting a dancer to be naked during the first song is crazy. I always go back there expecting to spend min 100, that gives wiggle room. You can't expect everything at once, also it would be way less enticing. 

I ALWAYS start with a minimum 3 song dance ... then take it from there.

I guess @Poppie is no penny-pincher and treats others as he would like to be treated. A gentleman!
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But there are legal reasons why it is different in Canada too. This made the bars act very differently after.
The only way around I think, is what Cock bar in Toronto does. It is a private mens only club that you have to buy a membership to. Somehow calling it a membership club allows them to say men only.
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I don't think you understand what is "important" to us.
Every other bar on the street has a terrace or fancy drinks. We are there for dancers and you can't get that together, I don't care if theres a VIP room when there is no one worth spending that much on.  It's funny now you are basically saying, well if you want a nice experience like before, without drunk screaming women, get ready to pay lots more money for it.
Hard pass
 

I don't get why they think we want to see the customers at all? Is it a desperate attempt to show that they are somewhat busy? Plus then they are late sometimes going back to the stage when the dancers do finally come out.
But yeah it's not cool for some customers I am sure, especially who may not be aware they have changed the camera angles etc. 
 
 

Fireworks and then dancers in speedos. It's gonna be a good night!

Fireworks and then dancers in speedos. It's gonna be a good night!

Fireworks and then dancers in speedos. It's gonna be a good night!

Fireworks and then dancers in speedos. It's gonna be a good night!

Fireworks and then dancers in speedos. It's gonna be a good night!

Fireworks and then dancers in speedos. It's gonna be a good night!

The logic would be that every drag bar is packed and strip clubs are a dying business model. Facts are facts, just walk down the street in the village and the lines out the door will answer it.

I don't think you understand what is "important" to us.
Every other bar on the street has a terrace or fancy drinks. We are there for dancers and you can't get that together, I don't care if theres a VIP room when there is no one worth spending that much on.  It's funny now you are basically saying, well if you want a nice experience like before, without drunk screaming women, get ready to pay lots more money for it.
Hard pass
 

Who cares about drinks and  a fancy bar. The Boyz should be the main attraction. Not drinks not fancy glasses. Did I read it wrong? 

These spaces will only attract more groups of women looking for a night out. No thanks.