Mrprofessional

Wow. I text when I arrive and if they aren’t letting me in within 5 min i text / call again and then leave . Unless they let me know in advance they are running behind etc . I give benefit of the doubt the first time but make it quite clear that my time is as valuable as their own and I am always on time and appreciate the same . The good  ones out there treat this like a business and get repeat clients as they don’t over book or no show etc. 

I’ve learned in this biz that the first red flag — really and truly — needs to be the last red flag.
 
As soon as you see a warning sign (not prepared not punctual or not professional by postponing) it’s best to just walk away. Period. 

 the encounter almost never gets better after the first red flag. Whatever small chance that it might get better, it just isn’t worth it. 

I’ve learned in this biz that the first red flag — really and truly — needs to be the last red flag.
 
As soon as you see a warning sign (not prepared not punctual or not professional by postponing) it’s best to just walk away. Period. 

 the encounter almost never gets better after the first red flag. Whatever small chance that it might get better, it just isn’t worth it. 

Caramel_Drizzle: Booked a massage for 1 hr but he barely touched me, was on his phone constantly barely proving the service, and it only lasted 20 mins. He blocked me during the session but at the end he said oh wait let me unblock you. Not worth $400. 
Notorious and BRUNOBRAZIIL: only wanted to do oral but they put me in an awkward position so I couldn't really suck their cocks. They were on their phones the entire time. When I was sucking bruno, Notorious got up and went to take a shower. I was glad when my hour was app because I never want to go back to either of them.
ROGXX: We had plans to meet up but when the time came he never responded but was online on RM. He replied hours later "Now I'm with my daughter if she wants 11 pm I'll be alone." I didn't see the message until 2am and when I asked when's the next time he's available he left me on read. I messaged him again then he blocked me. It was my birthday that day and I really was interested in his ad on RM, interestingly his profile says "Always Available" when not really. I got cleaned up, didn't really eat anything the whole day, had the cash ready, but the time came and he never responded back, not even saying he was busy. That ruined my birthday. 

1.  A few years back, I visited an escort at his place.  He cordially invited me into his apartment, sat and conversed with me.  After some minutes,  he offered me a drink, and if my memory serves me correctly, I think it was water (clear).  When we began to kiss, he was oh so friggin' sexy, applying his sensual Brazilian skills.  After a few minutes, he stopped and lay on his bed and failed to do much of anything else.  I was pissed and got up and dressed.  I politely asked him to ring a Uber for me.  He pretended to do the latter in an honest fashion yet deceptively.  My ride never arrived, so I left and boarded the elevator in a huge state of confusion.  The man had drugged me; he'd given me something that had me very, very confused.  I managed to leave via the underground parking lot.  ...went outside to get a grip, and for about an hour I was out of it.  Finally, I found the street from which I'd walked from my downtown S.F. hotel and returned after walking some 20 or more blocks.  [Cell phones were not as prevalent as they are today.]  
In looking back, it was one hell of a frightening experience. 
2.  One year I hired porn star S.X.  Our emails were great, and he'd lowered his fee for lack of his obtaining clients to San Francisco during that particular visit.  He opened the door to his shared hotel room (His lover at the time had left in order for us to play.). and asked me to undress, for he would give me a massage as a preliminary to the "main event."  Well, for almost 50 mins., he game me a fucking lame massage.  When the time was up, I dressed and gave him his fee.  S.X. did not show me to the door; nor did he give any words of support or anything.  He was one rude fucking fish.  I left being quite, quite disappointed, for many men at this site had only rave comments about him.
Unfortunately, my time with him was NOT what I had anticipated.  
In looking back, I think I should have made an appointment with his big dick, interactive lover who'd been recommended to me by David_SF.
2. I keenly remember a popular and well reviewed escort and I had arranged a meeting for an hour.  Well, the hour came, and the escort relayed that he would be a slight bit late, for he was ending dinner.  I waited and waited, and when he arrived via his hot motorcycle wearing sexy leather gear, I invited him into my hotel room, and when he started to undress, I told him to forget about it, for he was way too late for our meeting.  I opened the door, and he left.  
3.  A young guy who claimed to be a masseur came by my hotel room w/o any instruments or materials to use.  I gave him some money to go and buy some oils or lotions.  Well, he returned to my hotel room with some cheap, ordinary lotion and gave me "THE WORSE" MASSAGE that I'd ever had.  I, myself, could have done a much better job than he.  I reluctantly paid him; he left.  I was dissatisfied.
4.  Last November I wrote about the escort who had that overwhelmingly unkempt and highly disorganized space, the one who wanted to give me free service after I stood inside of his living room area and told him that the appointment is being canceled.   My good side told me to send him his fee since I'd canceled on the spot.  I sent him his reduced fee only to have it be returned to me.  The address and apartment number were correct, but I'd addressed it as Resident of Apartment____.  Well, he decided to get back at me by blocking me from assessing his ad material and photographs on Rent.men.
To this day I still think if I'd made the correct decision, for I really wanted to play with this man with the fabulous ass and beautiful hooded-headed huge endowment.  But all of that huge maze of disarray took away the ambience.
I enjoyed writing the preceding.  Hope it's applies to this particular thread if I read the title correctly.
 

I believe this topic has arisen often over the years. I’m currently close friends with a young man who has left the business. He told me that after spending time with me, too high a bar had been set and he couldn’t get excited about other clients. His exact words. We’ve set healthy boundaries. For example, no moving in together. 
 
Over the years, there have been others. One well-known provider from years ago invited me to his 21st birthday in Key West after only six months of sessions. We had a great time with him, his older brother and a few friends, all off the clock. I have fond memories of all of these unexpected friendships, but understand that they can be fleeting because of the age differences. They need to be savored while they’re going on.

It's all about the communication.  The conversations aren't "easy".  But they don't have to be "difficult" either.
It comes down to being honest with yourself and with them about what 'services' fit into each box.  Example: if he gives you a call and say you feel like going to see a movie.  You go to dinner and a movie and even hang out later.  That's friendship.  However, If you end up swapping blow jobs, that's not friendship.  Or maybe, blow jobs are fine, but it depends on whether it is during his normal work hours, or on afternoons when he isn't working.  Or, it depends on who initiates.  Or, who gets to top who.  
Whatever the definition is for you and him, as long as you both (1) respect and (2) keep communicating, then it can work.
I always feel that this is true regardless of what type of relationship you have with a person.  
I even hold that true for colleagues/subordinates/bosses at work who become outside of work friends.

Horrible experience.  So-so massage skills.  He will quote upfront separate prices for therapeutic and sensual.  But, even if you agree upfront on sensual, anything beyond therapeutic becomes an upcharge during the session. When confronted about his misleading tactics, he gets rude.  In reality, he is smaller than advertised.  Height is accurate, but his weight is closer to 150.
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Some of these providers are all about secrecy and mystery.
Unlike a good mystery by PD James, however, the ending is typically NOT satisfying. 😊 

I agree. I had him in July. He did not give good directions to his apartment. So, I spent half an hour waiting and searching for his apartment. I told him that the building number he mentioned is not written anywhere.
The massage, despite clearly specifying that I wanted it to be sensual, was a half-ass therapeutic one. He later messaged me that he does not do sensual for the first time. However, he feels more comfortable with me and would do sensual next time (at a higher price). Total rip-off.

within reason, not - as long as the pics are accurate, i'm good

Whatever your relationship, it’s important to define and maintain boundaries. That’s the key.

Friends?  I don't even think about it.   I suppose it could happen, but I'm not looking for it to happen. 

Prior to Covid, I was seeing a massage therapist semi-regularly; over time, we got more comfortable with each other and began having sex regularly as part of the sessions.  At the same time, we were friendly, but not friends.  When the pandemic hit, we were both not working and going a little nuts, so one day I reached out and asked if he wanted to go bike riding, just to burn off some energy and have someone to talk to.  This transitioned into hiking and other safe outdoor activities, leading to a friendship that I did not expect.  Once we could restart our massage sessions, the sex returned as well, but only as part of the overall business transaction.  I told him that, from my perspective, the sex is, and continued to be, optional, as I truly enjoyed his massage work.  He has now moved and left the business, but we continue to stay in contact.  I am grateful for his friendship. 

The main thing to keep in mind is the definition of 'friend' -- why do you keep friends in real-life? 
Because there is a mutual exchange of value. I enjoy my friends for their personalities, their knowledge, their desire to do the same things I like, their backgrounds and their experiences.  In turn, my friends value me for the same. We pay our friends with our time and our companionship, except there isn't actual money being exchanged. Well, in some cases -- okay, hold that thought. 
You can develop a friendship with any human if the conditions are right. Could that be with an escort? Absolutely. Do you become friends with the people you work with? It's not common. I argue escorting is like that. You keep your work and your personal lives separate and maybe, if the conditions are just right, you develop an actual friendship and you just happen to meet at work.  You can also meet your future spouse at work.
You might even meet your future spouse in the course of hiring escorts. I know of someone who did. 👀
Just, ahhh, don't expect it. 

Friends?  I started a business with my last provider.  Pray for me for please….

“My map  says I’ll be at your address in xx minutes. Do you need more time?”

I think it’s a very difficult distinction to pull off, over a sustained period of time. I had a regular client who I’m now friends with (holidays together, meals out etc, recreational sex) and I found it difficult when he was booking me as a client after our friendship had developed. It happened gradually; over time we became friends whilst he still hired me. After a short while of this I had to tell him I wouldn’t charge him any longer because I found it awkward. He accepted that. I think he found it awkward too. Now the relationship is simpler. No money changes hands. 
I think it could be possible to have a kind of dual relationship: Paid companion on one hand and friend on the other, but it’s not one I’m able to sustain.
 
 

I suppose the sexual intercourse becomes the tipping point.
I have many long time clients who are also friends. It's well understood that while I will gladly cook dinner / buy drinks and help carry furniture if their basement floods....etc etc....when it comes to my JOB: I get paid for it.

Thanks for the input.   I am really appreciating this conversation.    Because of my own professional background,   I think it is accurate to say that regardless of whether one is an attorney, financial advisor or even doctor,  there are similarities.    I maintain friendships with clients,  regardless of the type,  some were friends prior,  others have come about during the professional  relationship.   I have found again,  that a distinction between  ones "friendship:  and professional conduct is essential for success.     My friends know that I'm very diligent with my services provided clients,  whether friends or not.

Love that guideline!

Love that guideline!

Love that guideline!

I’m driving out an hour from the city to get the updated COVID shot sooner rather than later. No appointments available within the city within my health care system until late November  ugh  
 
 

Love that guideline!