is this true?

[adltst]

I had an erotic massage last year in Las Vegas and when the therapist walked into my hotel room, he immediately asked to see my dick. I was wearing only shorts and a t-shirt. I was startled by the request, but complied. He said OK. then he set up his table. We both got naked and proceeded. Good massage with HE.

 

I asked him later why he wanted to see my junk, naively assuming that if he didn't like what he saw, he would leave. He told me it was to prove I wasn't a cop, because "cops aren't allowed to do that." Is that correct.

[+ Kman]

I have a friend who works with sex offenders and for the men who are arrested for soliciting a prostitute (usually a minor) they are arrested immediately (when it’s a sting operation).

[corndog]

I think this is a myth. Similarly, many people believe that if you ask "are you a cop?" that they have to answer truthfully.

[tenderloin]

Well, I don't know that it is necessary encoded in the law books, but think about it practically: if there is an undercover cop in a hotel room waiting to nab an escort, how likely is he to whip out his dick or stick his tongue down the guy's throat? It seems like they would need some verbal or written confirmation of the transaction in order to prove that it is prostitution.

 

Years ago I had an instance (as a client) where I went to an escort's hotel room and as soon as I arrived he started trying to get me to spell out what I was paying him for ("If I let you fuck me, you are going to give me money, right?"). I kept it vague, but after about three minutes of wordplay I walked out, never having touched him or mentioned money. Perhaps that was overly cautious, but it just didn't feel right.

[+ ODIN51]

he immediately asked to see my dick

 

It was also your best chance to tell him you want to see his dick, too, after you showed him yours .

[+ tassojunior]

Well, I don't know that it is necessary encoded in the law books, but think about it practically: if there is an undercover cop in a hotel room waiting to nab an escort, how likely is he to whip out his dick or stick his tongue down the guy's throat? It seems like they would need some verbal or written confirmation of the transaction in order to prove that it is prostitution.

 

Years ago I had an instance (as a client) where I went to an escort's hotel room and as soon as I arrived he started trying to get me to spell out what I was paying him for ("If I let you fuck me, you are going to give me money, right?"). I kept it vague, but after about three minutes of wordplay I walked out, never having touched him or mentioned money. Perhaps that was overly cautious, but it just didn't feel right.

 

In an interesting aside, until the past year cops in Hawaii were allowed to have sex with prostitutes before arresting them. Then when that was banned they started arresting them for sexual assault when they would touch their junk. Much worse because it meant up to 10 years jail and sex offender list for life. After a bit that was stopped but that is a dangerous idea that hopefully won't spread. I have no time but you can google.

[LivingnLA]

I don't know this part of the law well, so this is just a marginally informed opinion that could be completely off base.

 

The urban legend I've heard about asking a suspected cop to expose himself was actually done in public, like in the car, or somewhere semipublic to basically force him to perform an unrelated crime as a way of checking if he's a cop under the theory that cops aren't allowed to commit unrelated crimes to encourage someone else to commit a crime.

 

We already know the US Supreme Court is fine with cops lying to suspects in interrogation and while the cop is undercover, but the limits are unclear.

 

http://www.policemag.com/channel/patrol/articles/2007/01/point-of-law.aspx

 

https://www.csmonitor.com/USA/2014/0221/How-much-can-police-lie-to-suspects-N.Y.-rulings-suggest-there-s-a-limit

Edited May 12, 2018 by LivingnLA

[LivingnLA]

In an interesting aside, until the past year cops in Hawaii were allowed to have sex with prostitutes before arresting them.

 

That's actually legal in most US states, though it's slowly changing as people wake up to the reality that cops in their state are legally able to coerce and rape suspects in custody without any risk or repercussion.

 

http://feministing.com/2018/02/09/chart-of-the-day-does-your-state-allow-police-to-have-sex-with-people-they-arrest/

 

More details in this twitter thread about the underlying article behind the chart in the above link.

 

[+ DrownedBoy]

I read an escort say, 50 years ago or so - "if you can tell the judge the color of the cop's underwear, you go free."

 

It wasn't true 50 years ago, and apparently it isn't true today.

[Mocha]

Lies

[Mocha]

Years ago I had an instance (as a client) where I went to an escort's hotel room and as soon as I arrived he started trying to get me to spell out what I was paying him for ("If I let you fuck me, you are going to give me money, right?"). I kept it vague, but after about three minutes of wordplay I walked out, never having touched him or mentioned money. Perhaps that was overly cautious, but it just didn't feel right.

 

Good for you. That sounds like you walked away from a setup.

[MrHarryOtter]

how likely is he to whip out his dick or stick his tongue down the guy's throat? I

You’d be surprised!!! I know guys who were arrested after the deed was done!!!

[LivingnLA]

You’d be surprised!!! I know guys who were arrested after the deed was done!!!

 

I imagine it all depends on the jurisdiction and what evidence is required for an ironclad conviction. Or, maybe the cop liked what s/he saw and decided to have fun on the job.

[+ E.T.Bass]

You’d be surprised!!! I know guys who were arrested after the deed was done!!!

Was it a male cop arresting a male client? Pretty wild.

[BigK]

I read an escort say, 50 years ago or so - "if you can tell the judge the color of the cop's underwear, you go free."

 

It wasn't true 50 years ago, and apparently it isn't true today.

 

I'd say white.

[+ Avalon]

I read an escort say, 50 years ago or so - "if you can tell the judge the color of the cop's underwear, you go free."

 

It wasn't true 50 years ago, and apparently it isn't true today.

 

Answer "Stained" and the police officer would be too embarrassed to show them.

[rvwnsd]

...Years ago I had an instance (as a client) where I went to an escort's hotel room and as soon as I arrived he started trying to get me to spell out what I was paying him for ("If I let you fuck me, you are going to give me money, right?"). I kept it vague, but after about three minutes of wordplay I walked out, never having touched him or mentioned money. Perhaps that was overly cautious, but it just didn't feel right.

Good for you. Sounds like it was either a setup or a crazy person.

[+ Pensant]

It’s always a nagging worry when meeting a new provider.

[+ Keith30309]

Years ago I had an instance (as a client) where I went to an escort's hotel room and as soon as I arrived he started trying to get me to spell out what I was paying him for ("If I let you fuck me, you are going to give me money, right?"). I kept it vague, but after about three minutes of wordplay I walked out, never having touched him or mentioned money. Perhaps that was overly cautious, but it just didn't feel right.

 

I’d have done the same thing.

For what it’s worth, had it been some sort of law enforcement activity I’d wager there is no way that you would have walked away without being confronted. If they went to that much trouble then you’d have been stopped and searched for drugs or some other means by which you could have been arrested. I think that in these circumstances cops are like a hammer and everybody looks like a nail regardless of what actually happened. At a minimum you’d have been detained for a lecture and warning.

[MartyB]

I recently hired an escort and after several texts set up a date. When confirmed for the first time I was asked if I was a cop the day before? I said no of course but would that be sufficient in legal terms if I was lying?

[Cruiser7]

I recently hired an escort and after several texts set up a date. When confirmed for the first time I was asked if I was a cop the day before? I said no of course but would that be sufficient in legal terms if I was lying?

 

To put it simply, no.

 

I don’t know where this urban legend comes from, but it’s ridiculous to think any undercover operation in the United States could come to a screeching halt merely by asking someone “are you a cop?” The very notion of that is preposterous.

[Rudynate]

I recently hired an escort and after several texts set up a date. When confirmed for the first time I was asked if I was a cop the day before? I said no of course but would that be sufficient in legal terms if I was lying?

 

No.

[+ VictorPowers]

To put it simply, no.

 

I don’t know where this urban legend comes from, but it’s ridiculous to think any undercover operation in the United States could come to a screeching halt merely by asking someone “are you a cop?” The very notion of that is preposterous.

Oh no! The jig is up boys. Our perp asked the golden question. Damn!

[Rudynate]

Oh no! The jig is up boys. Our perp asked the golden question. Damn!

 

 

I first encountered it in a gay bar in Rochester in the 70s.

[Cruiser7]

Oh no! The jig is up boys. Our perp asked the golden question. Damn!

 

Sommamabitch! Who let them in on the secret dammit? I’ll bet it was Chet. It was Chet, wasn’t it?