Instead of Palm Springs, how about Orlando?

[instudiocity]

I had to go through security in Sarajevo and then again in Munich, and then run to the gate to board the plane in time for the flight for Munich-Newark

 

At the time, I was 70-years old.

Like that applies to flying domestically?

 

Still melodramatic...

[+ stevenkesslar]

About booking rooms, the organizers announced the dates of the gathering in PS many months ago. They insisted, and insisted, and insisted again, that we should book earlier if we wanted to attend. If anyone disregarded their advice and wait to the last minute, please do not blame Pam Springs, Coachella, the organizers, Donald Trump, or the liberal media.

 

And it's possible to take it one step further, so I will. Epigonos correctly anticipated this problem and came out here last year and ran around looking at places, and prices, and then started a post far earlier than usual so people could think about the date and book a room while they were abundant. There will always be people who have good reason to wait until late in the game to book. But when you are going to popular places at popular times and you book late, that usually means you pay a premium. Palm Springs is not unique in that regard.

 

I live here, and I guarantee you if you want a party in the middle of the Summer rates will be cheaper and rooms will be easy to cum by (men, too ). And it will be 120 degrees. Just like rooms in Florida in the middle of hurricane season.

 

Which is another thing worth mentioning. It was due to unusual circumstances a few years ago that Oliver scheduled the party later than it had been previously. The weather has generally worked out well. It actually does rain in Palm Springs. One year I remember having to move inside from the dinner at Tropicana because it was cold and then it started to rain. Since it was moved to this time, it seems to have worked perfectly. The last few years were a little on the hot side for some people (weather, not men). So we graciously arranged to get the weather cooled down the last few days. This weekend should be perfect. I've spent lots of time in Florida and many days there you never know which hour it will rain and which hour there will be sun.

 

The problem with this time of year is it's when everybody wants to be here, so you're fighting with White Party, Coachella, and also normal tourism. That's why Epigonos wanted to get word up really early.

 

This suggests that next year, once Oliver frees Epigonos from the shackles he uses to keep her in the kitchen, we will perhaps want Epigonos to do the same thing. That way if you don't want to have that problem in 2019, you can book early.

 

Another party in Orlando sounds fun. And since no one has mentioned it, perhaps we should also consider an annual party in Puerto Vallarta, as well? It's on the right side of The Wall, and we won't have to worry about FOSTA.

[+ José Soplanucas]

And it's possible to take it one step further, so I will. Epigonos correctly anticipated this problem and came out here last year and ran around looking at places, and prices, and then started a post far earlier than usual so people could think about the date and book a room while they were abundant. There will always be people who have good reason to wait until late in the game to book. But when you are going to popular places at popular times and you book late, that usually means you pay a premium. Palm Springs is not unique in that regard.

 

I live here, and I guarantee you if you want a party in the middle of the Summer rates will be cheaper and rooms will be easy to cum by (men, too ). And it will be 120 degrees. Just like rooms in Florida in the middle of hurricane season.

 

Which is another thing worth mentioning. It was due to unusual circumstances a few years ago that Oliver scheduled the party later than it had been previously. The weather has generally worked out well. It actually does rain in Palm Springs. One year I remember having to move inside from the dinner at Tropicana because it was cold and then it started to rain. Since it was moved to this time, it seems to have worked perfectly. The last few years were a little on the hot side for some people (weather, not men). So we graciously arranged to get the weather cooled down the last few days. This weekend should be perfect. I've spent lots of time in Florida and many days there you never know which hour it will rain and which hour there will be sun.

 

The problem with this time of year is it's when everybody wants to be here, so you're fighting with White Party, Coachella, and also normal tourism. That's why Epigonos wanted to get word up really early.

 

This suggests that next year, once Oliver frees Epigonos from the shackles he uses to keep her in the kitchen, we will perhaps want Epigonos to do the same thing. That way if you don't want to have that problem in 2019, you can book early.

 

Another party in Orlando sounds fun. And since no one has mentioned it, perhaps we should also consider an annual party in Puerto Vallarta, as well? It's on the right side of The Wall, and we won't have to worry about FOSTA.

 

What about Rio? I still hear comments about the legendary roof party organized by Tomcal (from boytoy, I don't know if he participates here) with dozens of GPs and American visitors. Let's make an annual calendar of gatherings. Maybe after the number 100th I will be able to mingle easier.

[YoungAD]

So when are you planning this get-together, Mocha?

[TruthBTold]

There is so much to respond to. I actually attend the Weekend because it allows and continues to allow me to meet really nice people who for some reason tolerate me and my ignorance of so much. That of course includes escorts who tolerate my looks of desire from afar. As for Orlando I have very little desire to visit there, mostly because I have a visceral reluctance to visit anywhere south of the Mason-Dixon Line. The nice thing about PS is that even when the weather gets crazy, fry-an-egg hot you can go up to the mountains. I'm not sure how long it lasts but it is an option. I also have become really comfortable with the place I tend to stay and they are really helpful. So I am only one extremely inconsequential person but I would probably ask that it not be moved and have an x-rated Disney version added if so desired.

[+ VictorPowers]

I feel PS is a great location. The Western Forum users can get there relatively easy. It's close to LAX, so Easterners can get here easily as well. The prices are not outrageous and the city is very gay accommodating. Overall a great experience to return to PS and meet all of the crazies we message and banter with!

[+ SundayZip]

... And since no one has mentioned it, perhaps we should also consider an annual party in Puerto Vallarta, as well? It's on the right side of The Wall, and we won't have to worry about FOSTA.

 

Yes to Puerto Vallarta! Count me in.

 

What about Rio?

 

I love the idea of Rio as well. I can't think of a location better suited to this group. I haven't been there in a while and would love to return. Of course it's a bit of trek and harder to navigate than, let's say, Puerto Vallarta. Maybe Mexico first and if that goes well, graduate to Brazil.

Edited April 14, 2018 by SundayZip

[+ ArVaGuy]

As a Business Events Professional who has organized conferences and such for over 25 years, I can state unequivocally that there is never the “perfect” set of dates, location, accommodations or rates to satisfy any sized group. Someone will always complain about some aspect that inconveniences themselves without much care or regard to other attendee sentiments.

 

An event organizer could go mad trying to please every attendee peccadilloes. It’s not worth the effort. Announce the dates, set the schedule, and let people decide if the can attend. And furthermore, ignore the assholes who complain.

[TruthBTold]

I love Rio. I have been there a few times. I also love other Brazilian cities accessible from Rio. However, Rio (tho in many respects safe) can be unsafe. At least as compared with PS. Rio must really be planned for so as to make sure you remain safe.

[+ stevenkesslar]

Announce the dates, set the schedule, and let people decide if they can attend. And furthermore, ignore the assholes who complain.

 

Great advice, as far is it goes.

 

But do we also have permission to ignore the assholes who attend?

[rvwnsd]

... And since no one has mentioned it, perhaps we should also consider an annual party in Puerto Vallarta, as well? It's on the right side of The Wall, and we won't have to worry about FOSTA.

How, exactly, does FOSTA/SESTA affect the pool party?

[+ stevenkesslar]

How, exactly, does FOSTA/SESTA affect the pool party?

 

It has a chilling effect. Think what that does to erections, sweetie.

 

Which is why I was suggesting Mexico. It's warmer down there.

[+ tassojunior]

I know some of the hottest guys who are at Coachella right now outside PS. Prime beef.

[BgMstr4u]

Every year I want to go and every year I can’t. So I content myself with sampling the properties on Zillow, picking out fun ones to give a private event for what is surely is the best party going anywhere. Just in case I win the lottery. My current favorite:

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Palm-Springs-CA/house,condo,mobile,townhouse_type/18032074_zpid/46965_rid/1-_beds/priced_sort/33.98237,-116.342812,33.539391,-116.819344_rect/10_zm/

 

Big enough to hold you all, but not so big that we miss the Best Bits, with lots of nooks and crannies for Fun Moments to be interrupted.... just Vegas enough for cracks about poor taste but not so ... (choose your favorite adjective: ———-) that we actually feel oppressed. [i especially like the Morrish Style of the P.S. place.]

 

For over the top Vegas style this takes the cake. I’m not sure the codes allow this taste within the city limits of P.S. But what fun for a big party!

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Las-Vegas-NV/house,condo,mobile,townhouse_type/6968204_zpid/18959_rid/1-_beds/priced_sort/36.567563,-114.735032,35.706934,-115.688096_rect/9_zm/

 

 

But then to wow you all in the best ersatz Midcentury Modern style... no nooks and crannies:

https://www.zillow.com/homes/for_sale/Palm-Springs-CA/house,condo,mobile,townhouse_type/2095710888_zpid/46965_rid/1-_beds/priced_sort/33.98237,-116.342812,33.539391,-116.819344_rect/10_zm/

 

I really do wish I could, to reward all of you for the great site you have helped create here. Have a wonderful time!

Edited April 15, 2018 by BgMstr4u

[mike carey]

An event organizer could go mad trying to please every attendee peccadilloes. It’s not worth the effort.

Never organised an event of the scale you're talking about but I have organised work lunches and the same guidelines apply. By all means get a rough idea of preferences, but once that's done book the restaurant, set the menu options and advise everyone where and when. If people don't like it they don't have to attend. On the original question of why PS and not Orlando, simple. The organisers had ties there and wanted to set something up. It's the Palm Springs weekend, it's not the annual forum weekend. Similarly, the DC lunch (when it happens) isn't an event looking for a location it's an event at a location (and timed to coincide with another separate event [MAL]).

[instudiocity]

I know some of the hottest guys who are at Coachella right now outside PS. Prime beef.

Keep your hands off my godson.

 

(30 year old hottie, but into the V)

[instudiocity]

Someone will always complain about some aspect that inconveniences themselves without much care or regard to other attendee sentiments.

One exception, on this forum, even non-attenders who are only inconvenienced by their absence, reserve rights to bitch, raise hell and continue in their general unhappiness.

[+ tassojunior]

My oldest friends all live in PS.

 

(Not the ones I've known the longest).

[+ Charlie]

A bit of history is in order here. The annual event is held in Palm Springs mainly because Lucky and I live here, and in 2005 Lucky said to me, "Why don't we organize a weekend event and invite people on the Hooboy site to come? We can arrange a dinner at a restaurant on Saturday night, then all go to a show at the Palm Canyon Theater afterwards. Then on Sunday afternoon I will host a party at my house." He made the theater arrangement, and I made the dinner reservation. A handful of people showed up (one of whom, BTW, was TomCal), all of them from California except for Oliver, who was staying here to escape the Midwest winter. It was fun, so we did it again the next year, and more people came. Then Oliver said, "Why don't we have the Sunday party at my place, because I have a pool?" Even more important, Oliver offered to pay for the increasingly large Sunday party. Then in 2009, Daddy finally responded to the invitation, and suddenly escorts started showing up in bigger numbers. After Lucky left the website, Oliver graciously agreed to take over all responsibility for organizing the entire event, with the help of Epigonos, including hosting and paying for the party on Sunday. And like Topsy, the event "has just growed."

 

There is no paid entertainment, and no charge for admission. Attendees are required to RSVP to Oliver's invitation in order to take part, but they are responsible for making their own arrangements for transportation and lodging. If someone wants to go to the trouble of arranging a similar event in Orlando or anywhere else, more power to them--there is no exclusive copywright on the format. But it does require a host, who is willing to assume the duty of organizing the whole event, and paying for the costs associated with it.

[+ Hoover42]

I know some of the hottest guys who are at Coachella right now outside PS. Prime beef.

I've been watching Coachella live streams trying to spot likely hotties.

[+ tassojunior]

I've been watching Coachella live streams trying to spot likely hotties.

Dont know how to host pics here or I'd introduce you.

[MikeBiDude]

I've been watching Coachella live streams trying to spot likely hotties.

Family member sent me one to show me the overall scene, I’m 100% SURE they didn’t see the guy at the bottom of the picture

[+ DickyF]

For the hell of it I did a search on a flight aggregator for flights on a random date about three months out from now. PHL-PHX-PSP $315, PHL-LAX $226 (that was a direct flight, there were cheaper one stop flights to LAX) both fares one way. Both happened to be on American. Those might not be the best deals, and maybe RT would be lower, and the site returned the fares in AUD so I converted to USD at today's exchange rate. I agree that if you were set on a direct flight, driving from Phoenix might be preferable to driving from LAX (as might Las Vegas).

I have gone to PS many times from DC on AA which I guess would be similar to starting in Phil. The best route is via PHX. 45 min flight on a regional jet.

AA does propose some bizarre routes sometimes; one return flight was PS to PHX to LAX and then DC! That would have been nutty.

[+ Charlie]

There are no direct flights between PHL and PSP. Having traveled between the two cities many times, I have always found AA via DFW to be the most practical route. If one is unwilling to make a connection anywhere, then a non-stop flight PHL to PHX, and a rental car to drive to Palm Springs would be my choice. It's a longer drive than from LAX, but a lot easier, because it is a relatively uncrowded Interstate 10 across empty desert at 70-75mph for most of the distance (I did it just last week).

[mike carey]

AA does propose some bizarre routes sometimes; one return flight was PS to PHX to LAX and then DC!

I've seen that checking flights for a trip I'm thinking about later in the year. It seems that whether it's a direct flight or one with a connection (no matter how far out of the way the connection is) means less for the price than what they have available. And it's not just AA. When checking fares Qantas will often show me fares from Canberra to LA via Perth and Sydney rather than just via Sydney (that's across the continent and back to travel 250km). If airline elite status matters to you, and the extra few qualifying miles or sectors would make a difference at the end of the year, I can see the point of taking the nutty route you cited if the fare were comparable.