Where do you advertise after next week?

[+ OliverSaks]

Well what are we going to do? Print and send that post to the aforementioned dating site, so they CAN fucking let people advertise. Let them know how things are, and how bad they are getting...that they continually refuse to de-criminalize prostitution. It could easily be mitigated if they just stamped "PROFESSIONAL" on their profile like adam4adam does, but they want to make escorts out to be some foreign race of human beings to be separated from all gay humanity....the same gay humanity out there doing the same things.

 

However I do agree, if guys are advertising, they need to be upfront early. It's not right to fake interest in someone over several messages, and then wait to bring up money. Waste of both parties time.

 

BUT...even HINTING is enough to get the profile removed and phone blocked. That's why within a couple messages, I leave my number and don't say anything else. Why are you hating for? That's the problem. Some people who patronize escorts, need to stop with the condescending view towards them. Y'all are partly to blame for all of this FOSTA stuff happening. It's really an internal solution. If more "clients" stood up for us, rather than putting us down, they wouldn't have to pass laws to "protect" and "remove" us. You're promoting exactly what FOSTA wants: to shoo us away. You can't be one-sided: love us when you're horny and it's convenient, but hate seeing us in places you deem inconvenient, aka bars, Grindr, dating apps.

 

It's 2018, time to call the spades a spade. Quit monkeying around out here. People are going to need to reach deep down inside of themselves, and see how they are the very contributors to their freedoms being marginalized.

Apps absolutely have the right to decide if people can advertise. Hilariously entitled view to think that you are somehow owed this space because, yes, in fact, some people on the apps DO hire.

 

Seriously:

have you ever reached out to any member of the government about your career as an escort and what the various legislation/rentboy raids/etc has meant to you? Have you ever “reached deep down” yourself and put yourself out there in this same way that you are advocating?

 

A single phone call or email and I would be blown the fuck away. You’ve been at this a long time, after all

[Mocha]

Apps absolutely have the right to decide if people can advertise. Hilariously entitled view to think that you are somehow owed this space because, yes, in fact, some people on the apps DO hire.

 

Seriously:

have you ever reached out to any member of the government about your career as an escort and what the various legislation/rentboy raids/etc has meant to you? Have you ever “reached deep down” yourself and put yourself out there in this same way that you are advocating?

 

A single phone call or email and I would be blown the fuck away. You’ve been at this a long time, after all

 

No seriously, what are you trying to argue?

 

Who said anything about apps not having the right to decide if people can advertise? I was just explaining to the other person, that he shouldn't feel uptight about seeing more escorts advertising on apps. Also, you can't get mad and scoff at the guy for not "advertising" when you can't really advertise. Apps specifically state you can't advertise escort stuff on there. So the next best thing to do, like @BlakeBenz stated, is to finesse it. Say nothing until you get the phone number, meet in person and then before you walk in the door say, "my rate is $300" (true story I heard from someone, but not recommended). I know that's annoying, unprofessional, and time wasting...but it's because there isn't an option to advertise on the platform. That doesn't mean people won't try. And duh, of course I know people on the apps hire. But as we've just heard, some of the same clients don't want to see them there.

 

Well you can't pick and choose where you want to see things at. You may love driving your Lexus, and putting in a dark garage so nobody can see it. But that's not going to stop Lexus advertisements from showing up in the middle of Super Bowl or Scandal or your favorite TV show. Unless they are knocking on your door with advertisements, shut the F up.

 

NEWSFLASH: THEY AREN'T ADVERTISING JUST FOR YOU! They have to advertise regardless of whether you're a client/buyer or not.

 

Have I reached out to members of the government? You damn right I have. Have you? Because I've actually done it in person, and won.

[biggerbilly]

I’m not against these apps being used, especially now.

 

I’m against someone using the app, writing out a profile that looks like they’re just looking for fun and dates, hitting me up, the at the last minute they say, “you got $300 to make it happen?”

 

There are millions of ways to make it clear what you want. I’ve seen plenty of ads in my area, with emojis and the word ‘generous’ spelt out various ways. And their profiles have never been taken down.

[body2body]

Back in the 70s the Advocate (which was then a weekly newspaper) had classified ads. There were still sodomy laws on the books so no mention of anal or oral, top or bottom were mentioned. A typical line ad would read-

Model- GWM- bl/bl 6' 170 Athletic, F/A, G/P, in/out 150/200 555-5555

The F/A, G/P refers to French Active (gives oral), Greek Passive (gets penetrated). No direct reference to sex. You had to call to get more info, and you knew from the phone number what area the gentleman was operating from. No one was called an escort. Until the mid 80s there were no photos or display ads. There were Modeling Agencies, one of my favorites was Brad's Bodybuilders and Wrestlers.

[LJNYC83]

I’m not against these apps being used, especially now.

 

I’m against someone using the app, writing out a profile that looks like they’re just looking for fun and dates, hitting me up, the at the last minute they say, “you got $300 to make it happen?”

 

There are millions of ways to make it clear what you want. I’ve seen plenty of ads in my area, with emojis and the word ‘generous’ spelt out various ways. And their profiles have never been taken down.

 

Seems like it would be most of the same keywords that were used on Craigslist. Gen, generous, roses, etc.

 

Personally, I don’t want to use my Grindr profile to advertise. But if I see someone saying they’re looking to be generous, I may hit them up. I had one person message me the other day asking if I was okay with them being generous. I didn’t even ask and they messaged me first! I of course said that’s not a problem haha.

[Cyd_StVincent]

I've been talking to a bunch of people and it sounds like blockchain websites are the wave of the future. I'm not tech savvy to really understand 100% what is going on there but its using the same kind of decentralized system as Bitcoin thereby avoiding the part around being sourced as criminally liable. Most of what I have heard of is aimed towards cis and or trans women but hopefully there will be some sites that advertise men as well.

 

In the meantime there is also switter.at an alternative to twitter as we will began to see adult content taken off social media platforms. I also got an VPN and an encrypted email at protonmail and I encourage everyone else to do the same.

[maninsoma]

I’m not against these apps being used, especially now.

 

I’m against someone using the app, writing out a profile that looks like they’re just looking for fun and dates, hitting me up, the at the last minute they say, “you got $300 to make it happen?”

 

There are millions of ways to make it clear what you want. I’ve seen plenty of ads in my area, with emojis and the word ‘generous’ spelt out various ways. And their profiles have never been taken down.

 

If I could like your post multiple times, I would. Even though I'm someone who has been comfortable hiring guys for a long time, I still take offense when someone hits me up, has a conversation with me as if he is interested, and then waits until very late in the game to let me know he expects to be paid. If someone is looking for compensation, that better be clear within the first message or two or there is no way I'd hire the guy simply because I don't like being manipulated and having someone waste my time.

[Kris Parkes]

Lets start a KIK group! create your profile! We can name it Jons4Johnson!

Start spreading the word!

[Mo Mason]

I always liked the hanky code. The good thing about bringing that back is that there's no more memorization necessary. Just whip out your iPhone and look up what the color/pocket combo means.

 

... or just ask the guy, I suppose.

[+ tassojunior]

The "Massage" and "Personal Training" sites are going to get interesting.