The Ex BFE

[P Gren]

I have to agree with you here, @KennF. As often happens in these discussions, the pendulum seems to slowly (or sometimes not so slowly) swing to the side of the escort-i.e. the client must have done something wrong. This is especially prominent when someone has ‘picked on’ another member’s favorite.

 

I’m sorry-people of different ages associate with each other all the time. I have a Facebook friend, the father of three. He’s currently in NYC with the two oldest-a girl and a boy at least one of the children is probably 21 and the other is close to it. If he goes out without his husband, and is alone with his son is everybody going to think the young incredibly handsome son is an escort (although to be truthful the Dad is really handsome too). Years ago I took one of my nieces-probably 20 years old at the time out for lunch when I was visiting the city she went to college in. I’m a fat bald guy and a subordinate of mine saw a picture of my niece once and asked whether she was a model. So did I have to be her sugar daddy just because we were having lunch together? Sure we-esp in our gay community at large and esp in this one -might wonder at seeing an attractive lad with an older gent, but it could be a father/son, actual Uncle/nephew, grandfather/grandson, or a boss/employee as just some examples.

 

Gman

I agree with you people of different ages are often seen together out in public. And the situations you point out would have a very different vibe than the situation that started this thread.

[KennF]

There's unanticipated - the taxi was late - and there is unanticipated - spending hours with a group of the client's friends as 'what exactly?' What are the options? Honesty: "I'm here because he's paid for my time for a BFE. What do you do for a living?" Faking a story: what story? what has the client already said? "We met in the laundry room and he helped fold my underwear." Leaving discretely with no charge and a learning experience may have been the best option.

 

True. There are varying degrees of situations. No one asked him to lie or fake a story. In fact, he isn't required to answer any questions about himself. It's about discretion. Just because the escort is asked personal questions doesn't mean he has to answer them.

 

I've know many people who are adept of diverting the conversation to topics that aren't about me or my relationships. Saying, "I'm friends with <client> and he asked me here", and then seguing into a topic is perfectly fine.

 

The point being, the escort handled the entire encounter inappropriately. He accepted the job/client with knowledge of the evening's plan. He wasn't professional enough to cope with it.

 

Lastly, he was so uncomfortable, then it was incumbent upon himself to discuss what the client felt comfortable with sharing. The evening was supposed to be about the client, not the escort.

[P Gren]

True. There are varying degrees of situations. No one asked him to lie or fake a story. In fact, he isn't required to answer any questions about himself. It's about discretion. Just because the escort is asked personal questions doesn't mean he has to answer them.

 

I've know many people who are adept of diverting the conversation to topics that aren't about me or my relationships. Saying, "I'm friends with <client> and he asked me here", and then seguing into a topic is perfectly fine.

 

The point being, the escort handled the entire encounter inappropriately. He accepted the job/client with knowledge of the evening's plan. He wasn't professional enough to cope with it.

 

Lastly, he was so uncomfortable, then it was incumbent upon himself to discuss what the client felt comfortable with sharing. The evening was supposed to be about the client, not the escort.

We might have to agree to disagree. In my opinion he hired a person not a robot. One perspective only, I don't expect everyone to agree with it.

[LivingnLA]

The point being, the escort handled the entire encounter inappropriately. He accepted the job/client with knowledge of the evening's plan. He wasn't professional enough to cope with it.

 

Lastly, he was so uncomfortable, then it was incumbent upon himself to discuss what the client felt comfortable with sharing. The evening was supposed to be about the client, not the escort.

 

I agree with this assuming the client and escort had enough of a planning conversation about the session that they both had similar expectations. If the escort knew he was going to be on a multihour "date" that involved hanging with friends of the client and agreed to do it for whatever compensation he negotiated, then he should've fulfilled the agreed upon role or informed the client when he felt unable to do so.

Edited December 14, 2017 by LivingnLA

[P Gren]

I agree with this assuming the client and escort had enough of a planning conversation about the session that they both had similar expectations. If the escort knew they were going to be on a multihour "date" that involved hanging with friends of the client and agreed to do it for whatever compensation they negotiated, then they should've fulfilled their role or informed the client when they felt unable to do so.

Good point. It doesn't sound like this happened.

Edited December 14, 2017 by P Gren

[KennF]

We might have to agree to disagree. In my opinion he hired a person not a robot. One perspective only, I don't expect everyone to agree with it.

Good point. It doesn't sound like this happened from the description provided.

You're welcome to disagree. I have no problem with that.

 

I read the OP's post as follows:

 

"I recently had an extended session with a semi regular"

Semi regular and an extended session.

"He initially agreed to go to dinner with friends of mine"

So, he knew it was a dinner with friends on an extended session.

 

Up to this point, I might find that the escort was in an awkward situation if the dinner was more grandiose or intense than described.

 

"but when the time came, he begged off saying that they would know something was up (“I mean look at you, and look at me”)."

Right here... this suggests that the escort is more interested in what 3rd parties think, instead of focusing on the client.

He might have been ashamed of what he did for a living. I don't know. But, it was self-centered and he wasn't focused on his client.

 

Now, ...

 

"He bolted [...] leaving me at the restaurant and wondering if he was coming back"

Not 'he politely excused himself', nor 'took me aside and informed me'. Just, "He bolted".

"he seemed to walk ahead or behind me, like he didn’t want to be seen with me."

He knew he was going to be out in public, so why the change in behavior?

 

Sorry, regardless of the preparation or lack of discussion. As described, this is either him being unprofessional, or, being a total drama-diva-queen. Take your pick.

 

If you don't agree, that's okay.

[marylander1940]

I recently had an extended session with a semi regular that was a bit bizarre, to say the least. It started off fine, but over the course of the session, it didn’t seem to go well. He initially agreed to go to dinner with friends of mine, but when the time came, he begged off saying that they would know something was up (“I mean look at you, and look at me”). He bolted after every meal, leaving me at the restaurant and wondering if he was coming back. When we went out, he seemed to walk ahead or behind me, like he didn’t want to be seen with me. When playtime came, he wasn’t able to “clean up” (though subsequent posts and reviews, he didn’t seem to have any issues with this for his other sessions). I usually enjoy my time with him, but this time left me reeling. Should I discuss this with him, or should I just walk away and say it’s over?

 

First of all, thank you for sharing this.

 

There's was a very old thread about closeted escorts where the OP complained of offering to go for dinner and the escort said: "If I'm seeing with you everybody will know I'm gay".

 

I wonder if he was/is in the closet? I was introduced by an escort on a restaurant as a "visiting uncle".

[P Gren]

You're welcome to disagree. I have no problem with that.

 

I read the OP's post as follows:

 

"I recently had an extended session with a semi regular"

Semi regular and an extended session.

"He initially agreed to go to dinner with friends of mine"

So, he knew it was a dinner with friends on an extended session.

 

Up to this point, I might find that the escort was in an awkward situation if the dinner was more grandiose or intense than described.

 

"but when the time came, he begged off saying that they would know something was up (“I mean look at you, and look at me”)."

Right here... this suggests that the escort is more interested in what 3rd parties think, instead of focusing on the client.

He might have been ashamed of what he did for a living. I don't know. But, it was self-centered and he wasn't focused on his client.

 

Now, ...

 

"He bolted [...] leaving me at the restaurant and wondering if he was coming back"

Not 'he politely excused himself', nor 'took me aside and informed me'. Just, "He bolted".

"he seemed to walk ahead or behind me, like he didn’t want to be seen with me."

He knew he was going to be out in public, so why the change in behavior?

 

Sorry, regardless of the preparation or lack of discussion. As described, this is either him being unprofessional, or, being a total drama-diva-queen. Take your pick.

 

If you don't agree, that's okay.

That's half of the story. I'm sure we can agree there is probably more to it from the other person's perspective that we'll never know. Best thing for the client would be to talk to the escort and find out what happened. I'm sensing a lot of disappointment, which is hard for any of us to deal with.

Edited December 14, 2017 by P Gren

[+ Gar1eth]

We might have to agree to disagree. In my opinion he hired a person not a robot. One perspective only, I don't expect everyone to agree with it.

 

I’m of two minds. I’m willing to give the escort a bye for not wanting to meet @Reluctant Daddy’s friends. I understand how that could be difficult. But @Reluctant Daddy said the escort in question also bolted after restaurant meals when they were dining alone. If we assume that @Reluctant Daddy is an averagely discreet person, as I would hope most of us on here are, then that’s totally unacceptable behavior by the escort. And unless the escort in question lets clients know that the only activities they can count on him for are in the bedroom, then he needs to find a new line of work.

 

Gman

[P Gren]

I’m of two minds. I’m willing to give the escort a bye for not wanting to meet @Reluctant Daddy’s friends. I understand how that could be difficult. But @Reluctant Daddy said the escort in question also bolted after restaurant meals when they were dining alone. If we assume that @Reluctant Daddy is an averagely discreet person, as I would hope most of us on here are, then that’s totally unacceptable behavior by the escort. And unless the escort in question lets clients know that the only activities they can count on him for are in the bedroom, then he needs to find a new line of work.

 

Gman

It just sounds like disappointment and lack of communication. The client brought dinner up at the start of the session, which the escort was immediately reluctant about. The client could have brought up a 'date' before the session, and the escort could have ended the session if he wasn't comfortable on a 'date' with friends before they got to the restaurant.

[+ Gar1eth]

It just sounds like disappointment and lack of communication. The client brought dinner up at the start of the session, which the escort was immediately reluctant about. The client could have brought up a 'date' before the session, and the escort could have ended the session if he wasn't comfortable on a 'date' with friends before they got to the restaurant.

 

It sounds like it was at least an overnight hire if not a weekend equivalent. Really in general how much communication for normal details does there need to be? It would be very unusual for an extended session like that to only take place in the bedroom. I’m definitely willing to give the escort the bye on not wanting to meet with @Reluctant Daddy’s friends. But you really seem to be bending over backward to make it all Daddy’s fault with the escort blameless.

 

Gman

[KennF]

That's half of the story. I'm sure we can agree there is probably more to it from the other person's perspective that we'll never know. Best thing for the client would be to talk to the escort and find out what happened. I'm sensing a lot of disappointment, which is hard for any of us to deal with.

 

Absolutely there is more to the story and that we are seeing this through the lens of one person's perspective. Every story has at least three sides to it.

 

A good escort makes sure there aren't communication breakdowns and avoids disappointing the client.

[P Gren]

It sounds like it was at least an overnight hire if not a weekend equivalent. Really in general how much communication for normal details does there need to be? It would be very unusual for an extended session like that to only take place in the bedroom. I’m definitely willing to give the escort the bye on not wanting to meet with @Reluctant Daddy’s friends. But you really seem to be bending over backward to make it all Daddy’s fault with the escort blameless.

 

Gman

My last message just pointed out something that both the client and the escort could have taken responsibility for, not bending over backwards. And, others may disagree, but the initial posting came across as a bit 'victim' in tone (for lack of a better word) - everything was the escort's fault in a different situation than previous hires, without before hand communication.

Edited December 14, 2017 by P Gren

[sexymonk]

I have to agree with you here, @KennF. As often happens in these discussions, the pendulum seems to slowly (or sometimes not so slowly) swing to the side of the escort-i.e. the client must have done something wrong. This is especially prominent when someone has ‘picked on’ another member’s favorite.

 

I’m sorry-people of different ages associate with each other all the time. I have a Facebook friend, the father of three. He’s currently in NYC with the two oldest-a girl and a boy at least one of the children is probably 21 and the other is close to it. If he goes out without his husband, and is alone with his son is everybody going to think the young incredibly handsome son is an escort (although to be truthful the Dad is really handsome too). Years ago I took one of my nieces-probably 20 years old at the time out for lunch when I was visiting the city she went to college in. I’m a fat bald guy and a subordinate of mine saw a picture of my niece once and asked whether she was a model. So did I have to be her sugar daddy just because we were having lunch together? Sure we-esp in our gay community at large and esp in this one -might wonder at seeing an attractive lad with an older gent, but it could be a father/son, actual Uncle/nephew, grandfather/grandson, or a boss/employee as just some examples.

 

Gman

Unfortunately, people are not that openminded. We live in a society where many are judgemental, many people are reactive and many have don't care attitude. If a boy is reactive and it is his personal character then what are going go do? Change his attitude? Better move on! People have awareness and can differentiate between suggsr daddy- gold digger and uncle/ father- daughter! Escorts in thirties behave differently than in twenties! Best is move on.

Edited December 15, 2017 by sexymonk

[Reluctant Daddy]

I've read your posts here. You seem high maintenance. Maybe it's you, and not them.

 

If, by high maintenance, you mean that I expected a provider to deliver on the services agreed on and paid for, then yes, by all means consider me extremely high maintenance.

 

And, others may disagree, but the initial posting came across as a bit 'victim' in tone (for lack of a better word) - everything was the escort's fault in a different situation than previous hires, without before hand communication.

 

The only different situation from previous hires was that of the dinner with friends. Something that was discussed and agreed upon 3 weeks prior to the actual engagement. I ended up altering my plans with friends and did a fast breakfast with them alone instead.

 

Sorry, I’m not out to destroy this provider or his reputation. This was a series of events that unfolded for me with him during this particular engagement. It happened, for whatever reason. My original post was to set forth what happened, and to pose a question as to whether I should try to salvage this business relationship or to walk away and call it a lesson learned.

 

In my very short time of hiring, I’ve learned that being thorough and discussing expectations is certainly not a guarantee of delivery.

Edited December 15, 2017 by Reluctant Daddy

[sexymonk]

If, by high maintenance, you mean that I expected a provider to deliver on the services agreed on and paid for, then yes, by all means consider me extremely high maintenance.

 

 

 

The only different situation from previous hires was that of the dinner with friends. Something that was discussed and agreed upon 3 weeks prior to the actual engagement. I ended up altering my plans with friends and did a fast breakfast with them alone instead.

 

Sorry, I’m not out to destroy this provider or his reputation. This was a series of events that unfolded for me with him during this particular engagement. It happened, for whatever reason. My original post was to set forth what happened, and to pose a question as to whether I should try to salvage this business relationship or to walk away and call it a lesson learned.

 

In my very short time of hiring, I’ve learned that being thorough and discussing expectations is certainly not a guarantee of delivery.

As i read your explanation for going out with the boy along with your friends for the dinner/ lunch thing, I feel that initially the boy must have said yes on the flow (Generally people will say yes- yes!). However, on the actual meeting day, the boy must have given a thorough thought snd retracted. First of all, is the boy known by all of your friends? What is common thing between him and your friends? What explanation he will give for the aquaintaince with you? Think from his mind and perespective too! Going out with you alone is different than meeting your friends in ad hoc situation ! By the way why would you take him for lunch/ dinner with your friends? I hope the boy is not being shown as a trophy. Or is the boy very lonely in this world and looking for public connection that you want to introduce him to hour friends? I think somewhere you like him. Go talk with him and spend time 1 on 1.

Edited December 15, 2017 by sexymonk

[P Gren]

If, by high maintenance, you mean that I expected a provider to deliver on the services agreed on and paid for, then yes, by all means consider me extremely high maintenance.

 

 

 

The only different situation from previous hires was that of the dinner with friends. Something that was discussed and agreed upon 3 weeks prior to the actual engagement. I ended up altering my plans with friends and did a fast breakfast with them alone instead.

 

Sorry, I’m not out to destroy this provider or his reputation. This was a series of events that unfolded for me with him during this particular engagement. It happened, for whatever reason. My original post was to set forth what happened, and to pose a question as to whether I should try to salvage this business relationship or to walk away and call it a lesson learned.

 

In my very short time of hiring, I’ve learned that being thorough and discussing expectations is certainly not a guarantee of delivery.

Sounds like you are working through it. What happened when you talked to him about it afterwards?

[wklucas]

Its easy and obvious telling the difference from two guys hanging out (let's say, one of them is a guy you would hire with another one that you wouldn't) both in town for a conference/convention and two guys that are 'together' on a BFE. Young mindset? No young guys ever say that ... only old guys say that

 

Sorry but my impression / interpretation of your words portray a person with limited experience in observing social interactions in the world-at-large.....& I started to regard myself as having the continuing "mindset" of a 22 yr old about the time that I turned 23 - about 18 whole years ago.....I might concede that changing the word "mindset" for "outlook" might be a more mature word choice indicative of somebody of the geriatric generation.....but it's meaningless semantics with a nonsensical generalization on your part.....good luck with that.

[KennF]

@sexymonk That would all make sense under the idea that the "boy" is a real boyfriend.

 

Why is it wrong for a client to ask for an encounter where he wants a "trophy boy" hanging on his arm? Why does he need to have anything in common with the client's friends? Escorts are going to be invited to events (shows, sports, clubs, dinners, etc...) as a companion and probably not know anyone there. As such, they should be a chameleon and adapt.

 

And, a good escort should not just "sa[y] yes on the flow (Generally people will say yes- yes!)." during the engagement of his client.

[sexymonk]

@sexymonk That would all make sense under the idea that the "boy" is a real boyfriend.

 

Why is it wrong for a client to ask for an encounter where he wants a "trophy boy" hanging on his arm? Why does he need to have anything in common with the client's friends? Escorts are going to be invited to events (shows, sports, clubs, dinners, etc...) as a companion and probably not know anyone there. As such, they should be a chameleon and adapt.

 

And, a good escort should not just "sa[y] yes on the flow (Generally people will say yes- yes!)." during the engagement of his client.

kennf, do you think that escorts are human robot and don't have social presence or have a general feeling that other people have? I had mentioned that escorts can go only with clients to shows, events, movies! I don't see a reason why to just invite an escort amongst your group of friends and show the new trophy as a sign of achievement! Had the client within the age group of +/- 10 years, things are different.That boy was not comfortable and that is why he backed off.Had the boy backed off when client was only the other person then really a direct communication with the escort is required. Not every escorts are openminded or comfortable with the facing off an ad hoc, unexplainable situation. Another thing is that if there were no stigma associated with escorting then things would have been different. In that scenario the boy would have accepted the proposal to go out with the friends. Our social pshychology is develooed due to our reaction or response to the society attitude!

Edited December 15, 2017 by sexymonk

[KennF]

I have attended many functions in my life I didn't want to go, but had to for business. I made the most of the situation and did what was expected/required. At worst, the escort would have had to put on a façade of a smile and make polite small talk avoiding anything of substance.

 

You may not agree with whether or not a client 'should' ask for a particular experience. However, whether or not he should have asked for a particular fantasy, is different from the fact that he did, and that the escort agreed to it. (As for a why, I can think of dozens of reasons why a client might ask for a social event.)

 

The escort was engaged to pay attention to the client's needs/wants, not to be social butterfly, ignore his client, embarrass him, or make a scene, so the age of the group is irrelevant.

 

The 'boy' was not asked to go out with 'friends'. The 'escort' was employed to go out with the client while out with 'client's friends'.

 

Most escorts I've known are able to focus on the client's need/desire incredibly well and I have the utmost respect for the difficult work that they do with such grace. I envy their ability to be able to gel so well with so many different types of peoples and situations. It is skill I've come to admire, which in this case was lacking.

[sexymonk]

I have attended many functions in my life I didn't want to go, but had to for business. I made the most of the situation and did what was expected/required. At worst, the escort would have had to put on a façade of a smile and make polite small talk avoiding anything of substance.

 

You may not agree with whether or not a client 'should' ask for a particular experience. However, whether or not he should have asked for a particular fantasy, is different from the fact that he did, and that the escort agreed to it. (As for a why, I can think of dozens of reasons why a client might ask for a social event.)

 

The escort was engaged to pay attention to the client's needs/wants, not to be social butterfly, ignore his client, embarrass him, or make a scene, so the age of the group is irrelevant.

 

The 'boy' was not asked to go out with 'friends'. The 'escort' was employed to go out with the client while out with 'client's friends'.

 

Most escorts I've known are able to focus on the client's need/desire incredibly well and I have the utmost respect for the difficult work that they do with such grace. I envy their ability to be able to gel so well with so many different types of peoples and situations. It is skill I've come to admire, which in this case was lacking.

kennf, I again repeat that not all boys are same and not every boys can gel with a clients friend. Btw escorts are not any trophy or trinklet that we have to show to our friends! Many old guys whether straight or gay want to show that how they can make young , besutiful boys or girls hang with them and somewhere want to be center of attraction! Local escorts who have family, friends, family aquaintainces will refrain from hanging with old client. They don't want to be called as gold diggers or give a slightest hint to others about their activity or get extra attention. Non local or out of country escorts may hang with clients as they don't have much social presence. Also, escorts in thirties or forties may hang out as their association is less suspected. however boys in teens and twenties are very reactive and don't want to face any embarrasing questions posed to them by their friends. If clients pay then they should remember that escorts are human being and are not to make to cater every need of clients. No foubt that escorts have to hang with many clients to whom they may not by physically attracted but still do their work. I think lets be little hunan and consuderate and see things frim their perspective too!

Edited December 16, 2017 by sexymonk

[Reluctant Daddy]

kennf, I again repeat that not all boys are same and not every boys can gel with a clients friend. Btw escorts are not any trophy or trinklet that we have to show to our friends! Many old guys whether straight or gay want to show that how they can make young , besutiful boys or girls hang with them and somewhere want to be center of attraction! Local escorts who have family, friends, family aquaintainces will refrain from hanging with old client. They don't want to be called as gold diggers or give a slightest hint to others about their activity or get extra attention. Non local or out of country escorts may hang with clients as they don't have much social presence. Also, escorts in thirties or forties may hang out as their association is less suspected. however boys in teens and twenties are very reactive and don't want to face any embarrasing questions posed to them by their friends. If clients pay then they should remember that escorts are human being and are not to make to cater every need of clients. No foubt that escorts have to hang with many clients to whom they may not by physically attracted but still do their work. I think lets be little hunan and consuderate and see things frim their perspective too!

 

The dinner wasn’t meant to show him off as a trophy, trinket, arm candy, or a “look what I got” prize. My friends happen to be within 2-5 years of his age, and I thought he might enjoy spending some time with them. I have younger friends that I go out with often. And they all know that I hang out with other younger guys for completely non-sexual reasons. I’m interested in the same music, movies and culture they’re interested in, and it’s an opportunity for me to enjoy that connection. Sadly, I’m a young soul trapped in a old man’s body. Peter Pan’s got some serious wrinkles.

[KennF]

kennf, I again repeat that not all boys are same and not every boys can gel with a clients friend. Btw escorts are not any trophy or trinklet that we have to show to our friends! Many old guys whether straight or gay want to show that how they can make young , besutiful boys or girls hang with them and somewhere want to be center of attraction! Local escorts who have family, friends, family aquaintainces will refrain from hanging with old client. They don't want to be called as gold diggers or give a slightest hint to others about their activity or get extra attention. Non local or out of country escorts may hang with clients as they don't have much social presence. Also, escorts in thirties or forties may hang out as their association is less suspected. however boys in teens and twenties are very reactive and don't want to face any embarrasing questions posed to them by their friends. If clients pay then they should remember that escorts are human being and are not to make to cater every need of clients. No foubt that escorts have to hang with many clients to whom they may not by physically attracted but still do their work. I think lets be little hunan and consuderate and see things frim their perspective too!

 

I see things from both perspectives. Here's the thing, though, you are starting from the presumption that the escort is entitled to the client's business.

 

If a particular escort is not willing to go out in public (and no one is saying they MUST), then he should NOT accept the engagement. He should never had said 'yes'. But, once he said 'yes', he had an obligation to follow through or cancel *before* the event. In the OP's situation, the escort agreed weeks in advance.

 

If a particular escort is ashamed of his work, or, afraid that friends/family may get the wrong impression, then HE has an obligation to say NO to the engagement.

 

If a particular escort is embarrassed to be seen with a client in public, for ANY reason, then HE has the obligation to say NO and to hold firm to it, even if it costs him a particular client.

 

It is not, and should never be, the client's responsibility to deal with the escort's personal fears and issues. During an appointment, unless very specifically agreed otherwise, the encounter is supposed to be all about the client, not the escort.

 

Clients should respect the boundaries placed by the escort, but it is the provider's responsibility to (a) clearly communicate those boundaries before the situation occurs; (b) accept that some clients will decide not to hire them based on those boundaries.

 

Lastly, I am going to strongly disagree with you on your comments on 'trophy' boys. You may not like it, but part of what many escorts offer is the objectification of themselves. If the escort and client are both amenable to it, then who the hell are we to judge or condemn them for it?

Edited December 18, 2017 by KennF

[sexymonk]

I see things from both perspectives. Here's the thing, though, you are starting from the presumption that the escort is entitled to the client's business.

 

If a particular escort is not willing to go out in public (and no one is saying they MUST), then he should NOT accept the engagement. He should never had said 'yes'. But, once he said 'yes', he had an obligation to follow through or cancel *before* the event. In the OP's situation, the escort agreed weeks in advance.

 

If a particular escort is ashamed of his work, or, afraid that friends/family may get the wrong impression, then HE has an obligation to say NO to the engagement.

 

If a particular escort is embarrassed to be seen with a client in public, for ANY reason, then HE has the obligation to say NO and to hold firm to it, even if it costs him a particular client.

 

It is not, and should never be, the client's responsibility to deal with the escort's personal fears and issues. During an appointment, unless very specifically agreed otherwise, the encounter is supposed to be all about the client, not the escort.

 

Clients should respect the boundaries placed by the escort, but it is the provider's responsibility to (a) clearly communicate those boundaries before the situation occurs; (b) accept that some clients will decide not to hire them based on those boundaries.

 

Lastly, I am going to strongly disagree with you on your comments on 'trophy' boys. You may not like it, but part of what many escorts offer is the objectification of themselves. If the escort and client are both amenable to it, then who the hell are we to judge or condemn them for it?

kenn, Really? If we go with the attitude that who are to judge others then in this world everything is justified, right? Then by same logic action of terrorists are also justified? Sorry, things don't work like that! A basic code of conduct, ethics has to be there! As far as tge escort saying yes to go out and meet the clients friend was just a blank statement at that time. Everyone does that yes statement in general! However, on actual time the escort retracted as he gave a thought and was not comfortable with meeting other friends! However, you see he didn't denied going out with the client. Just he was not comfortable with the idea of meeting his friends. You cannot pressurize an escort for that! If the client is offended then he can just get to another boy and it is simple!