To Porn or Not to Porn

[P Gren]

If you do go to porn i hope you do a scene with markie more and quentin gainz. How was doing scene with scotty zee? he pretty hot.

Haha ... this is turning into a request thread.

[+ ArVaGuy]

I absolutely LOVED your scene on Bromo.com and would certainly like to see more.

 

You should make the decision based on your gut instinct and future goals.

[mike carey]

Six months till Palm Springs.

I agree completely. I had thought of this possibility before I did my initial 3 scenes. I do know my exposure increased tenfold with each video.

[TruthBTold]

I agree completely. I had thought of this possibility before I did my initial 3 scenes. I do know my exposure increased tenfold with each video.

 

This is changing however. The chances that someone who has watched the porn you have been in going to a hiring board or your current employer are fairly slim. I believe that a good video (and you would have to decide whether a particular video makes you look better or worse over time) can make you a lot more attractive to some people. Also, for example the new OnlyFans website has made certain escorts a lot more desirable because they seem to be more natural than in regular videos (whether that is the case or not I do not know). The one thing I do know is that if you claim in your profile that you only do "Safe" behavior do not have a video of you being barebacked in your video. A bit contradictory.

Edited October 19, 2017 by TruthBTold

[+ VictorPowers]

If you do go to porn i hope you do a scene with markie more and quentin gainz. How was doing scene with scotty zee? he pretty hot.

Scotty was great! Sweet personality and dorky. Great mix!

 

I absolutely LOVED your scene on Bromo.com and would certainly like to see more.

 

You should make the decision based on your gut instinct and future goals.

Markie is pretty cool. I wouldn't mind doing a scene with him. I met him inset with Next Door.

[_spark_]

Well, since you're looking for some blue-sky style brainstorming, I'll throw in my two cents, for what it's worth.

 

In the medium to long term (say, 10 years), I'm not sure that it makes that much difference to have one more video to add to your resume. Then again, if the three earlier vids were shot and released back-to-back, they would more likely to appear more as a blip on the radar and less likely to be pull focus from some other thread you might be trying to emphasize in your vocational history.

 

On the con side of turning them down, there's the lost opportunity cost associated with turning down a chance to network. If it's a small production house, and I believe they're getting smaller all the time in the porn industry, then this may not be much of a con. However, if you do have a set of experience and skills that you've been thinking about leveraging that is either relevant to the industry (like AV editing) or just generally relevant to any business (like accounting or IT experience), then you might be missing out on the chance to groom a contact that could pay off in a lateral career move at some point down the line.

 

On the flip side of making a lateral career move, if you see yourself continuing to work as an escort over the next ten years (which why wouldn't you as you seem to be doing pretty well all maxed-out Roth contributions considered!), then an additional vid just seems like free marketing. I mean, sure, don't make the guy-on-guy version of Two Girls/One Cup, but otherwise it seems like a straightforward business decision. I would recommend asking yourself whether you could discern any qualitative difference between the calls that were driven your way by the vids verses the calls generated by your regular means of drumming up business. If you can tell a difference, and if you have a strong preference, well, I'd recommend acting the way that is likely to lead to the type of client portfolio you're more interested in. Otherwise, calls are calls, and new business is a good thing, right?

 

Like I said, the above is super-blue-sky. Just stuff I'm throwing out there to help with the brainstorming. Hope it helps!

[Jostar]

Scotty was great! Sweet personality and dorky. Great mix!

 

 

Markie is pretty cool. I wouldn't mind doing a scene with him. I met him inset with Next Door.

Thanks for the info and good luck on any decision you choose in life you hot stud

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I'd vote no if it were your first time out.

 

Personally, I wouldn't want anyone profiting (for years) off my image without paying residuals. One-and-done ain't my ideal business model

 

Since you already have scenes out there, if this adds to the coffers and could continue to do so in the future, go for it.

Edited October 18, 2017 by Benjamin_Nicholas

[Mocha]

Ditto to @OliverSaks .

Go for it, it is the best advertisement for your escorting.

 

I've heard this before and just differ a little.

 

Think of it like a dating profile. What's going to be the best advertisement? A nice smile, sexy body, great personality/wording. Showing the person having sex with someone else is good wank fodder, but it may not be the main determining factor.

 

I'm not completely negating the value that doing porn can have on advertising or business, but you seem to infer that it's a necessity. It's like saying the best advertisement for a singer/songwriter is to also do film/movies. No, they can do commercials, tour and travel, they can do Twitter, they can make their own amateur videos, etc. It goes back to my other thread, does an escort need to do all these other things to garner respect and recognition from clients? Is not being an escort alone worth anything? There's escorts out there who won't get up on stage and dance and won't perform in porn movies because they don't like that level of exposure.

 

I know from a client perspective, pushing an escort to do porn can seem like a good deal. But ultimately it's us who has to determine the decision. I've mentioned before, I don't see myself getting into porn. I have much respect for porn stars and what they do, and I believe they create the fantasies that many of our clients come to us for. But, doing porn myself just isn't for me...at this time.

[+ Avalon]

Some escorts advertise particular services but in person do not live up to expectations. But seeing the porn an escort has done a potential client can see what was advertised the escort actually does! A review is nice but as they say a picture is worth a thousand words!

[+ José Soplanucas]

I've heard this before and just differ a little.

 

Think of it like a dating profile. What's going to be the best advertisement? A nice smile, sexy body, great personality/wording. Showing the person having sex with someone else is good wank fodder, but it may not be the main determining factor.

 

I'm not completely negating the value that doing porn can have on advertising or business, but you seem to infer that it's a necessity. It's like saying the best advertisement for a singer/songwriter is to also do film/movies. No, they can do commercials, tour and travel, they can do Twitter, they can make their own amateur videos, etc. It goes back to my other thread, does an escort need to do all these other things to garner respect and recognition from clients? Is not being an escort alone worth anything? There's escorts out there who won't get up on stage and dance and won't perform in porn movies because they don't like that level of exposure.

 

I know from a client perspective, pushing an escort to do porn can seem like a good deal. But ultimately it's us who has to determine the decision. I've mentioned before, I don't see myself getting into porn. I have much respect for porn stars and what they do, and I believe they create the fantasies that many of our clients come to us for. But, doing porn myself just isn't for me...at this time.

 

I think the one inferring and assuming too much is you. I never said or implied that doing porn is a necessity. It is not, and I never said otherwise. I am also not pushing anyone to do anything, please stop making absurd generalizations.

 

I was giving specific advice to a particular escort who asked for it. If @VictorPowers had never done porn before, my advice would have been more cautious. But as we know, Victor has already done porn.

 

I wonder who was the evil client who pushed him to do bad things. Poor innocent Victor, who cannot make his own decisions. Bad clients.

[marylander1940]

I have done 3 porn scenes in the past. I attribute my start to being a provider to the Porn industry. I have been given an extremely great offer to return in front of the camera. Should I take that step?

 

That means you've already answered your question.

 

Maybe the right title should be:

Should I stop doing porno or sign up an exclusive contract with (Falcon, Men.com, etc.) and become a pornstar? OR Is porno a good way to promote yourself?

 

But he's already done porn.

 

https://www.nextdoorstudios.com/en/show/Mixed-Emotions65279/120233

https://www.nextdoorstudios.com/en/show/Virgin-Butt-Buddy/119715

https://ma.bromo.com/video/view/id/49061/bro-in-the-streets-ho-in-the-sheets-part-2-scene-1/

 

Your Bromo link doesn't work.

 

http://www.queermenow.net/blog/victor-powers-gay-porn-rod-peterson-bareback/

Edited October 18, 2017 by marylander1940

[+ José Soplanucas]

This is changing however. The chances that someone who has watched the porn you have been in going to a hiring board or your current employer are fairly slim. I believe that a good video (and you would have to decide whether a particular video makes you look better or worse over time) can make you a lot more attractive so some people. Also, for example the new OnlyFans website has made certain escorts a lot more desirable because they seem to be more natural than in regular videos (whether that is the case or not I do not know). The one thing I do know is that if you claim in your profile that you only do "Safe" behavior do not have a video of you being barebacked in your video. A bit contradictory.

 

My friend, we are in the 21st century. The definition of safe sex is not necessarily wearing a condom anymore.

Remember, the only safe sex is no sex.

[Mocha]

I think the one inferring and assuming too much is you. I never said or implied that doing porn is a necessity. It is not, and I never said otherwise. I am also not pushing anyone to do anything, please stop making absurd generalizations.

 

I was giving specific advice to a particular escort who asked for it. If @VictorPowers had never done porn before, my advice would have been more cautious. But as we know, Victor has already done porn.

 

I wonder who was the evil client who pushed him to do bad things. Poor innocent Victor, who cannot make his own decisions. Bad clients.

 

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Wee-Bey-Whoa-What.gif

 

Really? Ok I was really trying to disagree politely...I really wasn't having a go at you. You know I luv you

 

But, I will clarify. I didn't mean that YOU were pushing him. I was just saying in general, people are saying "go for it, go for it." But, ultimately it's HIM who needs to decide. We don't know him or his family, Salt Lake City is very Mormon. How do we not know if his religious preference or relatives play a part in his decision? He's asking the question so maybe he needs, desires and wants that push from us for whatever reason.

 

I was not insinuating there being an evil deed being done. BUT, if Victor wanted to make his own decisions, he would have done it already without asking anyone here. I'm not knocking him for doing that.

 

I've never done porn before, but you have suggested to me in a similar way to do it. And I'm just fucking saying, not everybody wishes to use that as an advertising point. So, per your statement, it may not be THE BEST advertisement for business. It's simply one of many.

 

http://cdn1.clevver.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/tom-felton-booyah.gif

Edited October 18, 2017 by Mocha

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

But seeing the porn an escort has done a potential client can see what was advertised the escort actually does!

 

You're also making the assumption that filmed porn is anything like real life sex or sex between an escort & client.

[+ Avalon]

You're also making the assumption that filmed porn is anything like real life sex or sex between an escort & client.

 

So there are things an escort will do in porn that he would not do with a client? Payment is for services provided in both.

[P Gren]

So there are things an escort will do in porn that he would not do with a client? Payment is for services provided in both.

also might not be ABLE to do with a client

[+ Avalon]

also might not be ABLE to do with a client

 

Yes indeed! Thanks! I had not thought of that. That is so true. Often the client will be much older that the other model in the porn movie.

[Good Grief]

So there are things an escort will do in porn that he would not do with a client? Payment is for services provided in both.

 

Oh, come on...

 

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1gqj8lymf1qf7kk0o1_500.gif

[+ José Soplanucas]

http://gif-finder.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/Wee-Bey-Whoa-What.gif

 

Really? Ok I was really trying to disagree politely...I really wasn't having a go at you. You know I luv you

 

But, I will clarify. I didn't mean that YOU were pushing him. I was just saying in general, people are saying "go for it, go for it." But, ultimately it's HIM who needs to decide. We don't know him or his family, Salt Lake City is very Mormon. How do we not know if his religious preference or relatives play a part in his decision? He's asking the question so maybe he needs, desires and wants that push from us for whatever reason.

 

I was not insinuating there being an evil deed being done. BUT, if Victor wanted to make his own decisions, he would have done it already without asking anyone here. I'm not knocking him for doing that.

 

I've never done porn before, but you have suggested to me in a similar way to do it. And I'm just fucking saying, not everybody wishes to use that as an advertising point. So, per your statement, it may not be THE BEST advertisement for business. It's simply one of many.

 

http://cdn1.clevver.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/tom-felton-booyah.gif

 

So now you are bringing into public what we discussed in a private conversation. One where we were brainstorming possible solutions for the problems in your career you were complaining about. But I am not going to share what we discussed in private.

I am not surprised you are losing clients. You just lost one.

[+ Avalon]

Oh, come on...

 

http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m1gqj8lymf1qf7kk0o1_500.gif

 

 

I found a list of what a particular escort is into. He also does porn.

 

Anal | Body Hair | Feet | Kissing | Latex | Cum | Nipples | Piercing | Role Play | Spanking | S & M | Socks | Tickling | Wrestling | Armpits | Bears | Fisting | Foreskin | Jocks | Leather | Muscle | Rimming | Shaving | Smoking | Tattoos | Verbal | WS | Oral | Groups | Bondage | Toys

 

Pretty much sounds like everything he does in front of the camera he'd do with a client!

[Good Grief]

I found a list of what a particular escort is into. He also does porn.

 

Anal | Body Hair | Feet | Kissing | Latex | Cum | Nipples | Piercing | Role Play | Spanking | S & M | Socks | Tickling | Wrestling | Armpits | Bears | Fisting | Foreskin | Jocks | Leather | Muscle | Rimming | Shaving | Smoking | Tattoos | Verbal | WS | Oral | Groups | Bondage | Toys

 

Pretty much sounds like everything he does in front of the camera he'd do with a client!

 

Yep. You hold on to that "list."

 

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-hy1hGHKcVBk/ULVEzcY_wII/AAAAAAAADgw/h0paJ_Pn7do/s1600/Jim-Carrey.gif

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

I quietly wondered how long it would take for this new 'persona' to jump the shark.

 

It's nice to see the ability to spot a dupe hasn't diminished around here

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

But I am not going to share what we discussed in private.

 

This side note probably should have been kept between the two of you.

Edited October 19, 2017 by Benjamin_Nicholas

[Mocha]

So now you are bringing into public what we discussed in a private conversation. One where we were brainstorming possible solutions for the problems in your career you were complaining about. But I am not going to share what we discussed in private.

I am not surprised you are losing clients. You just lost one.

 

#1 I'm not losing clients. Even if I did, that would just give me more time to play with all these other fine guys on my own time.

 

#2 I'm not discussing private matters, I responded to what you just said publicly here.

 

#3 This thread is not brainstorming any "problems with my career." I made a separate thread, you could have addressed me over there.

 

#4 I disagreed (and agreed in the same paragraph) with you respectfully, at least give me the same respect.

 

#5 You say I'm not keeping a private conversion private but you just came here and publicly announce I lost you

 

#6 Why is this even an argument? Maybe this should be discussed in private as you wish...

 

#7 I'm still cool with you...let's keep it that way.

Edited October 19, 2017 by Mocha