To Porn or Not to Porn

[+ Avalon]

Yep. You hold on to that "list."

 

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You mean an escort might lie? Turn them in to the BBB ;-)))

[+ José Soplanucas]

As I said before, discretion is vital but I am human. I agree with @Benjamin_Nicholas . My apologies to everyone.

[Good Grief]

As I said before, discretion is vital but I am human. I agree with @Benjamin_Nicholas . My apologies to everyone.

 

Goddamn, we're all human, you know?

[Mocha]

This side note probably should have been kept between the two of you.

 

I liked the pre-edited version...

[bigvalboy]

Yep. You hold on to that "list."

 

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[Electra225]

Suggested reading: Last Time, I Drew A Crowd by Jim Bentley (you can get it from Amazon). It gives an accurate view of the porn industry. Jim Bentley was a major porn star in the 1980's and 1990's. His book will give you much food for thought. I met Jim when he was active in the film industry as well as recently (he is retired from the film industry now, of course). He is pretty level-headed and his thoughts are worth considering. One take-away: if you decide to re-enter the industry, do so with and for a high-quality and reputable studio, like Falcon. High levels of production values will enhance your career as an escort and in the film industry. Low-quality production values will, at best, do nothing for you and will probably hurt your career in many ways.

[Michael Paul]

It's your life and your career. I see nothing wrong with putting yourself out again. If your into what they are asking of you , why not do it. As you know there is more involved, but the outcome I feel would be well worth the time.

[KennF]

So there are things an escort will do in porn that he would not do with a client? Payment is for services provided in both.

 

There is a far cry difference between what happens on set and what happens during an escorting appointment.

 

During a shoot, the focus is not on the client. It is on creating a scene. There are opportunities to stop and do a retake.

During a session, the focus is (or should appear to be) on the client only. There is no opportunity to stop and reset the cameras.

[+ Avalon]

There is a far cry difference between what happens on set and what happens during an escorting appointment.

 

During a shoot, the focus is not on the client. It is on creating a scene. There are opportunities to stop and do a retake.

During a session, the focus is (or should appear to be) on the client only. There is no opportunity to stop and reset the cameras.

 

Right. Thanks! A client might want more bang for the buck!

[KennF]

Right. Thanks! A client might want more bang for the buck!

 

Absolutely. Plenty where the camera can trick people into to thinking the guy is engaging in something he isn't willing to do. The client may think the actor would be an ideal sex partner. In reality, a client is entitled to more than the screen shows.

 

Back in the 80's, there were guys who would 'stunt dick' in for guys unwilling/unable, as well as doubling for the guys who were Gay4Pay.

[+ Avalon]

Absolutely. Plenty where the camera can trick people into to thinking the guy is engaging in something he isn't willing to do. The client may think the actor would be an ideal sex partner. In reality, a client is entitled to more than the screen shows.

 

Back in the 80's, there were guys who would 'stunt dick' in for guys unwilling/unable, as well as doubling for the guys who were Gay4Pay.

 

Right! I once read a porn model say they could fake rimming by the camera's position. He said his tongue never touched ass.

 

Also there was a thread about fake cum.

[+ VictorPowers]

The one thing I do know is that if you claim in your profile that you only do "Safe" behavior do not have a video of you being barebacked in your video. A bit contradictory.

Contradictory? I disagree. Both myself and my screen partner were tested 2x before our scene. Would a client go through that requirement to BB? I doubt it. The requirements for that scene wouldn't exactly be practical in the escorting world so my profile says "Safe Only".

 

So there are things an escort will do in porn that he would not do with a client? Payment is for services provided in both.

I'm not agreeing or disagreeing. Food for thought. Fisting. Would an escort advertise fisting for just anyone to do? In a studio, all precautions are made to make a fisting scene comfortable for the actor receiving. It's a place where there is a guaranteed focus on their particular health and comfort. With a client, that provider would be blindly trusting that the client will do the same. Porn also uses their tricks and cut aways where everything stopped for a bit. Escort/client scenarios are constant "action"

 

There is a far cry difference between what happens on set and what happens during an escorting appointment.

 

During a shoot, the focus is not on the client. It is on creating a scene. There are opportunities to stop and do a retake.

During a session, the focus is (or should appear to be) on the client only. There is no opportunity to stop and reset the cameras.

 

@KennF hit the nail on the head.

[TruthBTold]

Contradictory? I disagree. Both myself and my screen partner were tested 2x before our scene. Would a client go through that requirement to BB? I doubt it. The requirements for that scene wouldn't exactly be practical in the escorting world so my profile says "Safe Only". . . .

 

I think so. If you take certain precautions, and are willing to bareback under those scenarios then you should just indicate "Ask Me." Clients can be on PrEP and test negative twice without any post-testing sex before they contact you. You have nothing to fear from them as far as HIV. Believe it or not sometimes you may be only sex the client has. Of course, STIs are a different matter and are rarely covered under "Safe Only."

[+ VictorPowers]

I think so. If you take certain precautions, and are willing to bareback under those scenarios then you should just indicate "Ask Me." Clients can be on PrEP and test negative twice without any post-testing sex before they contact you. You have nothing to fear from them as far as HIV. Believe it or not sometimes you may be only sex the client has. Of course, STIs are a different matter and are rarely covered under "Safe Only."

Then "Ask Me" turns into assumed BB. I feel saying safe only shows that I have a strong preference for playing safe. That alone I'm sure weeds out many people that'd be disappointed if I said no to their request. I have never had any complaints or had someone assume I'd BB because of my porn.

[+ oldNbusted]

Clients can be on PrEP and test negative twice without any post-testing sex before they contact you.

 

Playing devils advocate, how could this be verified in any meaningful way? Having a script doesn't make someone adherent. Should everyone who says they are neg be taking OraQuick tests at the beginning of every session?

[TruthBTold]

Playing devils advocate, how could this be verified in any meaningful way? Having a script doesn't make someone adherent. Should everyone who says they are neg be taking OraQuick tests at the beginning of every session?

 

Of course, no one can be 100% positive that clients/escorts have tested negative or are on PrEP or have not fucked since they have tested negative. And even if they have PrEP is not 100% sure to prevent infection, just as condoms are not. For me, I find out the meaningful facts as best I can, speak with the companion to see if I can sense whether I can trust him or not and then decide whether the risk is worth it IN THAT SITUATION. If that is not for you, then decide the circumstances that you are comfortable with.

[P Gren]

I have done 3 porn scenes in the past. I attribute my start to being a provider to the Porn industry. I have been given an extremely great offer to return in front of the camera. Should I take that step?

What did you decide?

[+ BenjaminNicholas]

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[+ WhamIAm]

You might also think about the impact on you personally, mentally, emotionally, spiritually. You seem like a smart, articulate, funny, grounded, all-around nice guy from your posts. Would the porn industry be a positive or a negative personally?

 

One of my regulars was prominent in porn for the last 3 years or so, worked with all the major studios, was an exclusive to one for a while. He recently retired from both porn and escorting and remains a close friend. Frankly, working in porn drove him slightly nuts. I got the clear impression that, while there are lots of good people working in porn, the ratio of assholes, exploiters, substance abusers, over-inflated egos and douchenozzles was much higher than in most other career paths. (OTOH, he loved the escort side of things). The change in his demeanor once he left was amazing, and he's now a genuinely happy guy.

 

Of course, everyone is different and you may have been working with positive, supportive people to date and/or be more impervious to the bullshit, but seems like something you might want to think through.

 

FWIW, I know from him that the porn definitely had a positive impact on the escorting side of things financially. But, he's also run into the concern about the porn being somewhat of a restraint on subsequent career options. YMMV.

 

As a slightly off-topic aside, with the exception of my friend and the recently retired Gabriel L'Enfant, just about every porn dude I've hired in the past has been a pretty crappy escort.

[jjkrkwood]

random but I know victor is a bottom but sometimes I fantasize him wrestling with me, and then him pinning me down and sliding his cock inside me:eek:

 

i don't know all those muscles and that beefiness makes me want to see the dominant side come out from him

 

ok back to dreaming

 

 

Dom, maybe the 2 of you can team up and do a lesbian video ? (jkg, I couldnt resist... I would be happy just to see you eat his ass)

[gallahadesquire]

Absolutely. Plenty where the camera can trick people into to thinking the guy is engaging in something he isn't willing to do. The client may think the actor would be an ideal sex partner. In reality, a client is entitled to more than the screen shows.

 

Back in the 80's, there were guys who would 'stunt dick' in for guys unwilling/unable, as well as doubling for the guys who were Gay4Pay.

 

Ryan Idol [in his days: YUM!] apparently used a stunt dick in one of his films. His filmography is small, so I should be able to think of it. I think it was the last scene of IDOL EYES, with Joey Stefano.

[Cyd_StVincent]

I do porn because I'm an exhibitionist, and also since I mostly do porn which provides me long term dividents - its a form of income for when escorting might go dry or I don't have time. I worry about its impact on my escorting though because some of the porn I do is stuff I wouldn't do with a client or is pretty kink heavy and I worry it might turn off potential clients. Especially around bareback scenes which I do with a trusted lover, or with professionals who can prove they have tested negative in the last two weeks, and I get tested a week after a shoot every time - but how are client to know that? For that reason I'm thinking of switching to covered only.

[FTM Zachary Prince]

I've been engaging in this debate myself lately. So far I've always chosen to produce my own erotic content that I direct myself. This allows me to make sure that it's tailored to my escort marketing rather than risking giving clients false ideas about what may or may not be available during a session. I agree that video is a powerful marketing tool for escorts. Even tho I've never done conventional porn, my clients often mention that meeting me FEELS like meeting a porn star because they've spent so much time enjoying my self-produced videos in anticipation of meeting me.

 

Self-production can be expensive. I spend around $3K each (including shoot locations, wardrobe, props, videographer, etc.) to produce teaser videos that end up being around 2 minutes long. And since I don't charge people to view my videos, it is not a profit-generating venture in and of itself. But as a marketing tool for my escorting, they have been invaluable. I'm sure I've made at least $10K in additional income from each new video, and that's just considering the clients who have taken the time to specifically mention to me that my videos are what sealed the deal for them.

 

The best part of self-producing video content tailored to my escort business is the TYPE of clients that it's drawn to me. Since my personal erotic style is very much reflected therein, I end up drawing clients that I am very compatible with in the bedroom. They can feel confident in advance that we will be compatible too.

 

My videos were all produced pre-transition, so they do not reflect my new branding or my current appearance (ie., they're GIRLY), but here's a link in case anyone's curious what they like:

http://spicyzoey.wixsite.com/allnaturalluxury/video

[Populist Fury]

My videos were all produced pre-transition, so they do not reflect my new branding or my current appearance (ie., they're GIRLY), but here's a link in case anyone's curious what they like:

http://spicyzoey.wixsite.com/allnaturalluxury/video

 

Those are very nicely produced, gj! I like the 3rd one down the best with all the hot oral action <3

[FTM Zachary Prince]

Those are very nicely produced, gj! I like the 3rd one down the best with all the hot oral action <3

 

Thank you! I think that one is my personal favorite too. Maybe my first production as FTM will be an updated version of that same type of concept. I do love having things in my mouth...