+ Charlie Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 4 hours ago, newatthis said: Thanks to @mike carey and @Luv2play for their responses. I did google it myself later in the day and found the explanation. But both @mike carey and wikipedia seemed to think that "Operation Market Garden" was something I would know about. Am I really so out of things? Is this something well-known to the most people? It is something that is known to most people who are interested in World War Two history. E.g., my uncle was killed in battle in Germany in 1945, so of course I know a lot about that period. + DrownedBoy 1
Luv2play Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 6 hours ago, newatthis said: Thanks to @mike carey and @Luv2play for their responses. I did google it myself later in the day and found the explanation. But both @mike carey and wikipedia seemed to think that "Operation Market Garden" was something I would know about. Am I really so out of things? Is this something well-known to the most people? During WWII major strategic operations decisions were given these quixotic names, perhaps for security reasons during the planning stages. Names like Operation Overlord ( D-Day), Operation Torch (African invasion), Operation Jupiter (Norway), etc. Historians and fans of reading about the war are the only people familiar with these names. + Charlie 1
Luv2play Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 (edited) 9 hours ago, SouthOfTheBorder said: if you’ve been to India - you would not make that statement I guess you haven’t taken notice of the fact that India is now part of the BRICS group of countries that over the next 20 years are expected to achieve parity with the most developed countries. At least that is the path they are on. India with its 1.42billion people has a GDP of over $10,000 per capita. Like China if you ignore the billion or so who are mired in poverty, the rest which number in the hundreds of millions, enjoy an educational and wealth status like those in the upper reaches of the developed world. They left the third world quite some time ago. Edited January 23, 2024 by Luv2play + Charlie 1
mike carey Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 7 hours ago, newatthis said: Thanks to @mike carey and @Luv2play for their responses. I did google it myself later in the day and found the explanation. But both @mike carey and wikipedia seemed to think that "Operation Market Garden" was something I would know about. Am I really so out of things? Is this something well-known to the most people? On reflection, guilty as charged, so sorry for that. At first I was only familiar with the name of the operation from the film but have read more about it since. As others have said, knowledge of the battles themselves or the film are a snapshot of a certain time now well in the past. Unconsciously I had been answering the question, 'Is the term a bridge too far really about an actual bridge that was too far away to be captured in WW2', rather than what you wanted to know. + Charlie 1
Luv2play Posted January 23, 2024 Posted January 23, 2024 I started it all with my remark that “inconceivable “ was “a bridge too far” It started with a poster calling something axiomatic. That was followed by another saying “self evident”or “unquestionable”, both synonyms to axiomatic. Then another said “incontrovertible”, another synonym. Then another poster said “inconceivable”. That was the “bridge too far” as I saw it meaning you don’t expect us to go there, do you? OK a bit obscure. My idea of humour. + azdr0710 and + Charlie 1 1
+ newatthis Posted January 24, 2024 Posted January 24, 2024 17 hours ago, Luv2play said: During WWII major strategic operations decisions were given these quixotic names, perhaps for security reasons during the planning stages. Names like Operation Overlord ( D-Day), Operation Torch (African invasion), Operation Jupiter (Norway), etc. Historians and fans of reading about the war are the only people familiar with these names. I'm not a particular fan of WWII history, but Torch and Overlord are familiar to me. Market Garden and Jupiter are a bridge too far. mike carey, + Charlie, Luv2play and 1 other 4
samhexum Posted July 8, 2024 Author Posted July 8, 2024 A Colorado teen died after he jumped into an electrified lake while celebrating on the 4th of July, according to reports. Jesse Hamric, 18, dove into the water at Smith Mountain Lake outside Roanoke, Virginia, early Thursday, and friends immediately noticed something was wrong. The friends jumped in after Hamric and felt themselves getting shocked upon entering the water. Despite their own injuries, they were able to pull Hamric out, according to WDBJ. One of the friends began CPR on Hamric while another called for help. Rescue crews arrived around 4 a.m. and rushed Hamric to a hospital, where he later died. His two friends suffered minor injuries. No foul play is suspected in the death. A native of Steamboat Springs, Hamric had been visiting friends with his family at the time of the freak accident. An investigation by fire crews detected electrical currents in the water where the teen died, and police determined it was caused by stray voltage spreading from a dock at a nearby private residence. He had just graduated in May from high school, where he excelled on the football and baseball teams. “Ever since I first met that kid, I mean, he’s like one of a kind,” friend Alex Schwab told KDVR. “You see him and you just, like, he always has a smile on his face.” “Still can’t even like process it. I’m so upset by it,” he added. This is just such an awful story and I can't imagine how anyone involved is processing it. The kid's parents' lives are shattered, his friends must be dealing with grief and survivor guilt, and the homeowners must be devastated. thomas, + Charlie and BSR 3
CuriousByNature Posted July 9, 2024 Posted July 9, 2024 20 hours ago, samhexum said: A Colorado teen died after he jumped into an electrified lake while celebrating on the 4th of July, according to reports. Jesse Hamric, 18, dove into the water at Smith Mountain Lake outside Roanoke, Virginia, early Thursday, and friends immediately noticed something was wrong. The friends jumped in after Hamric and felt themselves getting shocked upon entering the water. Despite their own injuries, they were able to pull Hamric out, according to WDBJ. One of the friends began CPR on Hamric while another called for help. Rescue crews arrived around 4 a.m. and rushed Hamric to a hospital, where he later died. His two friends suffered minor injuries. No foul play is suspected in the death. A native of Steamboat Springs, Hamric had been visiting friends with his family at the time of the freak accident. An investigation by fire crews detected electrical currents in the water where the teen died, and police determined it was caused by stray voltage spreading from a dock at a nearby private residence. He had just graduated in May from high school, where he excelled on the football and baseball teams. “Ever since I first met that kid, I mean, he’s like one of a kind,” friend Alex Schwab told KDVR. “You see him and you just, like, he always has a smile on his face.” “Still can’t even like process it. I’m so upset by it,” he added. This is just such an awful story and I can't imagine how anyone involved is processing it. The kid's parents' lives are shattered, his friends must be dealing with grief and survivor guilt, and the homeowners must be devastated. Shockingly sad + DrownedBoy, Luv2play and samhexum 2 1
samhexum Posted September 22, 2024 Author Posted September 22, 2024 Well, they DO say red meat is bad for you… British officials recently determined the shocking and tragic way that a Welsh man died last year. The Western Telegraph reported that Barry Griffiths, 57, died after accidentally knifing himself while separating frozen burgers in June 2023. Officials announced the results of the investigation at a coroner’s court hearing on Monday. Griffiths, a resident of Llandrindod Wells, had been trying to separate the frozen burgers with a knife when he stabbed himself in the stomach. During Monday’s hearing, coroner Patricia Morgan said Griffiths had reduced mobility in one of his arms after a stroke, which likely led to the freak accident. Tragically, Griffiths’ body remained in his apartment for several days after his death. Morgan noted that Griffiths “[had a] relatively private life with limited contact with others,” which was why it took over a week for police to conduct a wellness check. + Charlie 1
samhexum Posted February 12 Author Posted February 12 Horrifying video captures Hawaii cliff jumper’s final moments as he plummets to his death Santiago Bourdieu, a 28-year-old rugby player and fitness instructor, got a running start as he catapulted toward the cliff’s edge — but then plummeted straight down the cliff’s rocky, 50-foot face. CuriousByNature 1
samhexum Posted September 3 Author Posted September 3 The man charged in the deadly shooting of an 11-year-old Texas boy was “waiting in the shadows” as the child and his cousin played a “ding-dong ditch” prank on his Houston home, police said. The suspect followed the boys as they ran away before he opened fire, according to Houston Police Sgt. Michael Cass, the lead detective on the case. Cass told CBS News the suspect was “waiting in the shadows in his own side yard behind a fence” after the boy and his cousin knocked on his door Saturday night and ran away. The boy, identified by police as Julian Guzman, was attending a family gathering about a block away in the east Houston neighborhood, and after getting bored, decided to go with his 10-year-old cousin and play ding-dong ditch, in which pranksters ring the doorbell or knock on the door of a home and then run away. Police said the two cousins had knocked three times on the suspect’s door within a span of about 15 minutes. On the third knock, the cousins ran as fast as they could, but the homeowner was waiting behind the fence in his yard. Guzman was recording the incident on his phone, police said, showing himself knocking and running. Shots are heard on the video, police said, and there is audio of the boy gasping. Guzman’s cousin told police he didn’t know what to do, only what he had seen in movies, so he tried to pick him up. The boys appeared as children, “not threatening in any way,” Cass said. Guzman was wounded when police arrived at the scene and taken to a local hospital, where he was pronounced dead on Sunday, police said. Gonzalo Leon Jr., 42, has been charged with murder and booked into the Harris County jail, according to online records. A judge set Leon’s bond at $1 million Wednesday “due to the ongoing investigation and potential upgrade of the charges.” Police said Leon is a former Army veteran who was deployed and spent time in the reserves. He was disabled in combat and honorably discharged, his defense attorney said at his court appearance Wednesday. A handgun, 20 other guns and tactical and smoke grenades were found during a search of his home, police said. “Looked like he may have been a collector of firearms,” Cass said. Police said they found Leon at a hotel in La Porte, Texas, with a packed car. The hotel room was booked for three days, Cass said. Leon, his wife and 2-year-old child went to the hotel because media was surrounding their home, his defense attorney said. + sync and + Italiano 2
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