A New Way to Combat "Manspreading"

[MGTOW_Tx]

You don't trust the "whores"? Is that how you refer to women? Disgusting.

 

Alright wrong choice of words and i stand corrected but yeah i dont trust the female in general.

[MGTOW_Tx]

@LivingnLA

 

I love how you call me a troll for having my opinions and i think its very telling that i never lodged an attack on you yet that's your direction with me....I was out of line saying whores but that's about it because i said many times i dont support sexual harassment or assault and I found the artical to be offensive that the authorities gave a whistle to the lady's and not a can of mace or any real way to defend them self's or for that matter put the pervs in line...

 

I do understand the artical was not about man spreading of course i even said that however you must have just been a keyboard justice worrier and went to town trying to put me in my place without reading all my comments...the word its self upsets me as a man and regardless for me like i said this is my opinion and i am allowed it just like you are and i respect that fact.

 

My handle says MGTOW (Men going there own way) I am supporting mens rights...im allowed to have a view also you do NOT have to agree that said im not cutting you down as a person for your views i respect it and i hope to learn from it...frankly you were right there not whores though in MGTOW that point may be argued.

 

I have a different take on it because I see time and again where this crap is simply made up and that's fine that you dont.

Edited April 5, 2017 by MGTOW_Tx

[LivingnLA]

@LivingnLA

 

I love how you call me a troll for having my opinions and i think its very telling that i never lodged an attack on you yet that's your direction with me....I was out of line saying whores but that's about it because i said many times i dont support sexual harassment or assault and I found the artical to be offensive that the authorities gave a whistle to the lady's and not a can of mace or any real way to defend them self's or for that matter put the pervs in line...

 

I do understand the artical was not about man spreading of course i even said that however you must have just been a keyboard justice worrier and went to town trying to put me in my place without reading all my comments...the word its self upsets me as a man and regardless for me like i said this is my opinion and i am allowed it just like you are and i respect that fact.

 

My handle says MGTOW (Men going there own way) I am supporting mens rights...im allowed to have a view also you do NOT have to agree that said im not cutting you down as a person for your views i respect it and i hope to learn from it...frankly you were right there not whores though in MGTOW that point may be argued.

 

I have a different take on it because I see time and again where this crap is simply made up and that's fine that you dont.

 

@MGTOW_Tx, "whore" isn't the only out of line thing you said. You also used the term "bitch" to refer to all women, falsely accused the video creators of expressing "disgust for men" and "trying to shame men for being a man," and you're now attempting to belittle me as a "keyboard justice worrier." If you truly are not a troll, please stop behaving in a trollish manner. Rational considerate men do not paint whole groups of people as "bitches" or "whores" or make completely false accusations.

 

I completely agree, you're welcome to your opinions, but so am I and I will not stand by silently while any group of people is verbally assaulted online or in person. Yes, the word "manspreading" is freighted with baggage, but men still occupy a privileged position in our patriarchal society and to argue otherwise is simply false. I support equal rights for all human beings but I also recognize that our society has deep structural baggage that continues to oppress women, people of color, and everyone who's poor. There are many in the "men's rights movement" who are deeply sexist. I'm not accusing you, I'm simply stating an opinion after researching a great deal about "men's rights" over the years. Yes, there are real legitimate issues that men face nowadays, but much of "men's rights" is overblown and extremist based on "fake news" about some imagined feminist conspiracy.

[MGTOW_Tx]

I am allowed to have my ope

@MGTOW_Tx, "whore" isn't the only out of line thing you said. You also used the term "bitch" to refer to all women, falsely accused the video creators of expressing "disgust for men" and "trying to shame men for being a man," and you're now attempting to belittle me as a "keyboard justice worrier." If you truly are not a troll, please stop behaving in a trollish manner. Rational considerate men do not paint whole groups of people as "bitches" or "whores" or make completely false accusations.

 

I completely agree, you're welcome to your opinions, but so am I and I will not stand by silently while any group of people is verbally assaulted online or in person. Yes, the word "manspreading" is freighted with baggage, but men still occupy a privileged position in our patriarchal society and to argue otherwise is simply false. I support equal rights for all human beings but I also recognize that our society has deep structural baggage that continues to oppress women, people of color, and everyone who's poor. There are many in the "men's rights movement" who are deeply sexist. I'm not accusing you, I'm simply stating an opinion after researching a great deal about "men's rights" over the years. Yes, there are real legitimate issues that men face nowadays, but much of "men's rights" is overblown and extremist based on "fake news" about some imagined feminist conspiracy.

 

I hold true to my words with the exception of the fact i misused whore and im sorry for that but i find it a bit odd your offended by me saying keyboard justice worrier and yet you utter that im a troll as if your words are less offensive...I will not even get into your second paragraph because that would open a whole can of worms but i congratulate you on your opinions sir...if i were a troll as you say id be giving my opinion on many things there and well trolling but I wont bite.

[+ José Soplanucas]

I am allowed to have my ope

 

 

I hold true to my words with the exception of the fact i misused whore and im sorry for that but i find it a bit odd your offended by me saying keyboard justice worrier and yet you utter that im a troll as if your words are less offensive...I will not even get into your second paragraph because that would open a whole can of worms but i congratulate you on your opinions sir...if i were a troll as you say id be giving my opinion on many things there and well trolling but I wont bite.

 

The major problem is not your use of the word whore or bitch or any other diminishing term, but your open recognition of not liking or mistrusting the whole female population. Of course you are entitled to have your opinion and you have all the right to be a bigot and a mysoginist, but you have to suck it up when you are called out.

[LivingnLA]

I am allowed to have my ope

 

 

I hold true to my words with the exception of the fact i misused whore and im sorry for that but i find it a bit odd your offended by me saying keyboard justice worrier and yet you utter that im a troll as if your words are less offensive...I will not even get into your second paragraph because that would open a whole can of worms but i congratulate you on your opinions sir...if i were a troll as you say id be giving my opinion on many things there and well trolling but I wont bite.

 

I wasn't offended. Terms like "keyboard justice worrier" are just an attempt at gaslighting, which is frequently bully or troll behavior. That's the only reason I mentioned it. What strangers think of me doesn't offend me since they don't know me.

Edited April 5, 2017 by LivingnLA

[+ FreshFluff]

MGTOW_Tx,

 

You manosphere guys are always saying that it's not possible for bitches women to have straight male friends. Men want to get laid, period.

 

So how about you and your straight MTGOW pals? Did you become an MGTOW mainly to get access to some straight male ass?

[+ José Soplanucas]

MGTOW_Tx,

 

You manosphere guys are always saying that it's not possible for bitches women to have straight male friends. Men want to get laid, period.

 

So how about you and your straight MTGOW pals? Did you become an MGTOW mainly to get access to some straight male ass?

 

So good to read you, Fresh! I had no idea MTGOW was something. I am googling it right now.

[Juan Vancouver]

MGTOW_Tx, I completely disagree; you are not entitled to "your opinion" because Misogyny is not an opinion. Misogyny is more akin to a character flaw or mental condition than an opinion. Whenever anyone in a public arena overtly expresses misogyny, sexism, racism, homophobia, etc, he/she should know that people will come against them and correct their thwarted views.

 

Most people understand that the offender has very little chance to be schooled, but if we come in defence of what is right is to make sure the quality of the discourse remains respectful, true, humane.

 

Demonizing an entire gender, blaming them for a conspiracy to control you, belittling them with derogatory terms, minimizing their very serious plights and demanding people stop giving air time to solving those problems and start focusing on problems that affect you, is not an opinion, is a deplorable attack on the human condition; the female human condition and that of everyone who reads what you write and stay silent.

 

Want to express your hatred? Go right ahead, just know we can't and won't stay silent.

 

Dude, it's 2017. It's time to get on the right side of history. I know you can do this.

[Good Grief]

MGTOW_Tx, I completely disagree; you are not entitled to "your opinion" because Misogyny is not an opinion. Misogyny is more akin to a character flaw or mental condition than an opinion. Whenever anyone in a public arena overtly expresses misogyny, sexism, racism, homophobia, etc, he/she should know that people will come against them and correct their thwarted views.

 

Most people understand that the offender has very little chance to be schooled, but if we come in defence of what is right is to make sure the quality of the discourse remains respectful, true, humane.

 

Demonizing an entire gender, blaming them for a conspiracy to control you, belittling them with derogatory terms, minimizing their very serious plights and demanding people stop giving air time to solving those problems and start focusing on problems that affect you, is not an opinion, is a deplorable attack on the human condition; the female human condition and that of everyone who reads what you write and stay silent.

 

Want to express your hatred? Go right ahead, just know we can't and won't stay silent.

 

Dude, it's 2017. It's time to get on the right side of history. I know you can do this.

 

[MGTOW_Tx]

MGTOW_Tx,

 

You manosphere guys are always saying that it's not possible for bitches women to have straight male friends. Men want to get laid, period.

 

So how about you and your straight MTGOW pals? Did you become an MGTOW mainly to get access to some straight male ass?

 

Funny...but no

[MGTOW_Tx]

MGTOW_Tx, I completely disagree; you are not entitled to "your opinion" because Misogyny is not an opinion. Misogyny is more akin to a character flaw or mental condition than an opinion. Whenever anyone in a public arena overtly expresses misogyny, sexism, racism, homophobia, etc, he/she should know that people will come against them and correct their thwarted views.

 

Most people understand that the offender has very little chance to be schooled, but if we come in defence of what is right is to make sure the quality of the discourse remains respectful, true, humane.

 

Demonizing an entire gender, blaming them for a conspiracy to control you, belittling them with derogatory terms, minimizing their very serious plights and demanding people stop giving air time to solving those problems and start focusing on problems that affect you, is not an opinion, is a deplorable attack on the human condition; the female human condition and that of everyone who reads what you write and stay silent.

 

Want to express your hatred? Go right ahead, just know we can't and won't stay silent.

 

Dude, it's 2017. It's time to get on the right side of history. I know you can do this.

 

No offense to you but you probably just go any direction the wind goes considering your ass is up for all to see, though im sure your a good guy and all. I am entitled to my opinion and i said i was sorry for the wording whore and let me add i should not be so inclusive to say all women but in general i dont trust the majority of them. I think you may not have read that i said i was wrong in fact for part of my statement and i added a bit here because some of the points are valid but i think its really ignorant that you make it out for me to be a racist or homophobic and its sad honestly...I feel for you

 

Also no offense meant but who the hell are you to have any real opinion on lady's considering your probably exclusively gay and have not been in a romantic relationship with women...

[sincitymix]

I ride the Chicago "L" every day and witness non sexual man and woman spreading on every trip. Women tend to sit in one seat, put their purse on the one next to them and if they have a shopping bag and a third seat is free, then they deposit it there. Then, they pull out their cell phones and plug in their headsets so that they can ignore any comments or looks they might receive. And it's usually younger woman who do this. I have been on trains so crowded that you can barely move and still they won't relinquish the 2 seats occupied by their bags.

 

Man spreading is usually a sprawl. The guy slumps down in his seat, spreads his legs, then drapes his arm(s) over adjoining seats. If he has a backpack, that gets deposited on the empty seat next to him but for the most part, it's the full body sprawl that prevents you from taking the seat next to him.

 

I like the signs posted on the trains that say, "Did your purse buy a ticket?" that everybody ignores.

 

Thats when you plop into the seat next to him, smile, nod, and say thanks.. and then purrr while you snuggle into him and his arm now around you... I bet he wont be doing that again in the future

[sincitymix]

So good to read you, Fresh! I had no idea MTGOW was something. I am googling it right now.

I just had to google it too lol. I though it was some sort of thing you put on the back of a truck to tow something

[sincitymix]

IMO "manspreading" and sexual assault are way two different things.

 

You can man spread all over me any day Kurtis

[sincitymix]

I ride the Chicago "L" every day and witness non sexual man and woman spreading on every trip. Women tend to sit in one seat, put their purse on the one next to them and if they have a shopping bag and a third seat is free, then they deposit it there. Then, they pull out their cell phones and plug in their headsets so that they can ignore any comments or looks they might receive. And it's usually younger woman who do this. I have been on trains so crowded that you can barely move and still they won't relinquish the 2 seats occupied by their bags.

 

Man spreading is usually a sprawl. The guy slumps down in his seat, spreads his legs, then drapes his arm(s) over adjoining seats. If he has a backpack, that gets deposited on the empty seat next to him but for the most part, it's the full body sprawl that prevents you from taking the seat next to him.

 

I like the signs posted on the trains that say, "Did your purse buy a ticket?" that everybody ignores.

 

It is also a shame when they wont even move the bags for elderly people. I had to applaud an Elderly woman who could barely walk, she just shoved the bags onto the girls lap, and sat down.

[MGTOW_Tx]

I just had to google it too lol. I though it was some sort of thing you put on the back of a truck to tow something

 

I like that you guys are giving it a look no one says you have to agree with everything but maybe some of it rings true and maybe some of it does not im not an absolutist at all but for me I am happy to say I am MGTOW

[actor61]

It is also a shame when they wont even move the bags for elderly people. I had to applaud an Elderly woman who could barely walk, she just shoved the bags onto the girls lap, and sat down.

Oh how I wish I had the nerve to do that!!

[+ FreshFluff]

Funny...but no

 

I'm serious. What drew you, a gay or bi man, to the MGTOW movement? Did you lose most of your assets in a divorce from a woman?

[Juan Vancouver]

No offense to you but you probably just go any direction the wind goes considering your ass is up for all to see, though im sure your a good guy and all.

 

No offence taken. I am proud of my ass and very happy with the way I am willing to share it with others.

 

However, opening a rebuttal trying to invalidate my arguments because I am sexually promiscuous and gay (and possible an escort) is akin to trying to invalidate Hillary Clinton calling her a Ho. It's not an argument.

 

I feel touched that you are sure I am a good guy and all, and I am not in the least bit hurt by your crass attempt of slut shaming. So let's get to your points.

 

I am entitled to my opinion and i said i was sorry for the wording whore and let me add i should not be so inclusive to say all women but in general i dont trust the majority of them.

 

Again, misogyny is not an opinion and the word whore is what I found the least offensive on your posts. I am glad you recognized it was poor wording, but regardless of how elegantly you word it, misogyny is fucking ugly and bordering on pathological.

 

You can put lipstick on a pig...

 

When I read that you mistrust the majority of women I only feel compassion for you. Life must be really hard. But that doesn't allow you to present your own emotional trauma as a valid opinion. All I can say to that is that you should perhaps seek professional help. There are many different forms of therapy that would ease this and make your life a much better place.

 

I think you may not have read that i said i was wrong in fact for part of my statement and i added a bit here because some of the points are valid but i think its really ignorant that you make it out for me to be a racist or homophobic and its sad honestly...I feel for you

 

Yes, it is possible my paragraph lacks clarity. Let me explain. First I said that you were expressing misogyny. Then I said that anyone who publicly extolls a flawed ideology, such as (but not exclusively) misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc, should expect to be corrected by the general population, who thankfully, nowadays is more enlightened than before.

 

I didn't call you a homophobe or a racist. I don't know if you are. But I do know you are a textbook misogyne.

I am glad you gave me an opportunity to clarify my point.

 

Also no offense meant but who the hell are you to have any real opinion on lady's considering your probably exclusively gay and have not been in a romantic relationship with women...

 

Again no offence taken.

 

First of, you have absolutely no idea whether I am bisexual or have had (or have) romantic relationships with women. But who cares!

 

Secondly, and infinitely more important, I don't need to fuck lady's(SIC), like them or have direct relationships with them to know they deserve one hundred percent equal rights and respect as men do.

 

I am not black, nor asian, nor muslim, nor Syrian, and I am more than ready to fight for their rights. I am more than ready to fight for what is just and human. By the mere action of empathy I can -without having been in Syria- incontrovertibly know that the civil population there deserves to live lives unencumbered by war and genocide.

 

It's the act of putting oneself in the shoes of the other and trying to imagine what they go through. Its basic human decency. It's the absolute minimum one can bring to the table when interacting with others.

 

Again -through empathy- I put myself in your shoes and I can imagine that life must really suck if you are constantly on the defensive towards half of the human race. There is no need you should continue living like this; seek help, man. This is not an attack, it's a heartfelt suggestion. I promise that once you deal with this, life will be so much more exciting, more fun, more filled with opportunities to be present, caring and loving towards a much bigger sphere of human beings than you originally though possible. Life is really awesome!

 

Sending you a big hug and lots of love.

[Good Grief]

No offence taken. I am proud of my ass and very happy with the way I am willing to share it with others.

 

However, opening a rebuttal trying to invalidate my arguments because I am sexually promiscuous and gay (and possible an escort) is akin to trying to invalidate Hillary Clinton calling her a Ho. It's not an argument.

 

I feel touched that you are sure I am a good guy and all, and I am not in the least bit hurt by your crass attempt of slut shaming. So let's get to your points.

 

 

 

Again, misogyny is not an opinion and the word whore is what I found the least offensive on your posts. I am glad you recognized it was poor wording, but regardless of how elegantly you word it, misogyny is fucking ugly and bordering on pathological.

 

You can put lipstick on a pig...

 

When I read that you mistrust the majority of women I only feel compassion for you. Life must be really hard. But that doesn't allow you to present your own emotional trauma as a valid opinion. All I can say to that is that you should perhaps seek professional help. There are many different forms of therapy that would ease this and make your life a much better place.

 

 

 

Yes, it is possible my paragraph lacks clarity. Let me explain. First I said that you were expressing misogyny. Then I said that anyone who publicly extolls a flawed ideology, such as (but not exclusively) misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc, should expect to be corrected by the general population, who thankfully, nowadays is more enlightened than before.

 

I didn't call you a homophobe or a racist. I don't know if you are. But I do know you are a textbook misogyne.

I am glad you gave me an opportunity to clarify my point.

 

 

 

Again no offence taken.

 

First of, you have absolutely no idea whether I am bisexual or have had (or have) romantic relationships with women. But who cares!

 

Secondly, and infinitely more important, I don't need to fuck lady's(SIC), like them or have direct relationships with them to know they deserve one hundred percent equal rights and respect as men do.

 

I am not black, nor asian, nor muslim, nor Syrian, and I am more than ready to fight for their rights. I am more than ready to fight for what is just and human. By the mere action of empathy I can -without having been in Syria- incontrovertibly know that the civil population there deserves to live lives unencumbered by war and genocide.

 

It's the act of putting oneself in the shoes of the other and trying to imagine what they go through. Its basic human decency. It's the absolute minimum one can bring to the table when interacting with others.

 

Again -through empathy- I put myself in your shoes and I can imagine that life must really suck if you are constantly on the defensive towards half of the human race. There is no need you should continue living like this; seek help, man. This is not an attack, it's a heartfelt suggestion. I promise that once you deal with this, life will be so much more exciting, more fun, more filled with opportunities to be present, caring and loving towards a much bigger sphere of human beings than you originally though possible. Life is really awesome!

 

Sending you a big hug and lots of love.

 

Good grief.

[MGTOW_Tx]

I'm serious. What drew you, a gay or bi man, to the MGTOW movement? Did you lose most of your assets in a divorce from a woman?

 

STILL married and I adore her...I let her know how loved she is and how amazing she is and in all ways how lucky I am to have her I also make it my goal everyday to lift her up even at my expense at times....with that i understand she is a female and does dumb female shit from time to time and I have to put my foot down from time to time to let her know that I am the man I have the penis!

[MGTOW_Tx]

No offence taken. I am proud of my ass and very happy with the way I am willing to share it with others.

 

However, opening a rebuttal trying to invalidate my arguments because I am sexually promiscuous and gay (and possible an escort) is akin to trying to invalidate Hillary Clinton calling her a Ho. It's not an argument.

 

I feel touched that you are sure I am a good guy and all, and I am not in the least bit hurt by your crass attempt of slut shaming. So let's get to your points.

 

 

 

Again, misogyny is not an opinion and the word whore is what I found the least offensive on your posts. I am glad you recognized it was poor wording, but regardless of how elegantly you word it, misogyny is fucking ugly and bordering on pathological.

 

You can put lipstick on a pig...

 

When I read that you mistrust the majority of women I only feel compassion for you. Life must be really hard. But that doesn't allow you to present your own emotional trauma as a valid opinion. All I can say to that is that you should perhaps seek professional help. There are many different forms of therapy that would ease this and make your life a much better place.

 

 

 

Yes, it is possible my paragraph lacks clarity. Let me explain. First I said that you were expressing misogyny. Then I said that anyone who publicly extolls a flawed ideology, such as (but not exclusively) misogyny, racism, homophobia, etc, should expect to be corrected by the general population, who thankfully, nowadays is more enlightened than before.

 

I didn't call you a homophobe or a racist. I don't know if you are. But I do know you are a textbook misogyne.

I am glad you gave me an opportunity to clarify my point.

 

 

 

Again no offence taken.

 

First of, you have absolutely no idea whether I am bisexual or have had (or have) romantic relationships with women. But who cares!

 

Secondly, and infinitely more important, I don't need to fuck lady's(SIC), like them or have direct relationships with them to know they deserve one hundred percent equal rights and respect as men do.

 

I am not black, nor asian, nor muslim, nor Syrian, and I am more than ready to fight for their rights. I am more than ready to fight for what is just and human. By the mere action of empathy I can -without having been in Syria- incontrovertibly know that the civil population there deserves to live lives unencumbered by war and genocide.

 

It's the act of putting oneself in the shoes of the other and trying to imagine what they go through. Its basic human decency. It's the absolute minimum one can bring to the table when interacting with others.

 

Again -through empathy- I put myself in your shoes and I can imagine that life must really suck if you are constantly on the defensive towards half of the human race. There is no need you should continue living like this; seek help, man. This is not an attack, it's a heartfelt suggestion. I promise that once you deal with this, life will be so much more exciting, more fun, more filled with opportunities to be present, caring and loving towards a much bigger sphere of human beings than you originally though possible. Life is really awesome!

 

Sending you a big hug and lots of love.

You know what gets me about you is that your the type of guy who cant stand to be wrong and in my statement i make concessions however you dont and only see error in other points of view even when i see serious issues with yours..

 

For instance you say Yuck to women yet you might as well say gorse...I think that is wrong but your holly approach to all things, First that tells me your not bi so step back a min I knew i was right your exclusively gay so what the hell would you know about wemon other than fag hags? I also dont hold the position the women are Yuck. (You sound like a 4 year old)

 

Your the sad one its clear your fake and this is a projected image for all to see and even if it is you i feel worse because you patronizing, aragent in that when you disagree the other side is no longer an opinion.

 

you sir make me puke

[Juan Vancouver]

You know what gets me about you is that your the type of guy who cant stand to be wrong and in my statement i make concessions however you dont and only see error in other points of view even when i see serious issues with yours..

 

For instance you say Yuck to women yet you might as well say gorse...

 

My man, I am in all earnestness trying to respond as an adult, but of course... you are only giving me an emotional name-calling attack with very little information to address.

 

I am assuming you are loosely paraphrasing me but hard as I try, I can't find where you could have thought I am saying "Yuck to women yet I may say gorse(SIC)".

 

I am at a loss.

 

Could you please post a direct quote of me saying Yuck to women but I might say gorse? I am not even sure what is it that you think I said. Only when I read what you are talking about will I be able to either explain what I wrote, make an apology or stand by it.

 

I think that is wrong but your holly approach to all things, First that tells me your not bi so step back a min I knew i was right your exclusively gay so what the hell would you know about wemon other than fag hags? I also dont hold the position the women are Yuck. (You sound like a 4 year old)

 

How intensively intent you seem to be on categorically state I am gay, not bi... almost as if by asserting that, you could incontrovertibly make a clear assessment of my moral worth.

 

Trying to equate heterosexuality as a clear proof of moral superiority in a mainly gay website...

 

Yeah, someone does sound like a four year old.

[+ FreshFluff]

STILL married and I adore her...I let her know how loved she is and how amazing she is and in all ways how lucky I am to have her I also make it my goal everyday to lift her up even at my expense at times....with that i understand she is a female and does dumb female shit from time to time and I have to put my foot down from time to time to let her know that I am the man I have the penis!

 

With respect, having a dick makes you a man, but it doesn't make you an alpha. I'm glad things are working out with your wife, dumb female shit notwithstanding.

 

I also make it my goal everyday to lift her up

 

Are you an evangelical, or did you grow up in an evangelical household?