Escorts as Flight Attendants?

[Mocha]

The travel part of being an F/A isn't nearly as glamorous as in the past. Now the overnights are timed with a very minimum of time off, typically just enough to stay legal with the FAA for required rest. If you throw in an hour or so appointment and its prep time you'd better be ready to drink a LOT of that horrible coffee they serve on the plane.

 

Thanks for the insight. A Facebook friend of mine recently became a flight attendant and posts his travels from American airlines. One trip being Brazil. I won't omit and say it makes me a little green and jelly...but at the same time I know FAKEbook is mostly illusion.

 

I know you travel quite a bit as well so you'd tell it like it is!

 

Yes, the constant moving would make almost impossible to set up appointments for later or for now.

 

Please try and see if it works for you, you sound very optimistic about the whole adventure.

 

Actually not 100%. There's other options on the table...which would nearly be the same perks but not necessarily the fun of travel.

 

I feel the thought and trying to becoming a flight attendant would be more out of competition, insecurity and boredom on my part. Yes, to criticize myself harshly lol. But i say that out of understanding of the situation as is. I would resent to get into something for the wrong reasons. To be a flight attendant would be to get into the service industry. Like @Kevin Slater said, not to be haughty but not my cup of long island tea either.

 

The insecurity part comes because the people I've been surrounded by, have not been supportive in their words or actions. It's one thing for people to say they're okay with one being an escort. That's old school acceptance. It's 2017. Everybody is okay with someone being an escort. But when it comes down to actually encouraging that escort, believing in that escort, uplifting that escort...the average fucker is at a loss of words. Their solution is to just get another job. No alternatives, no firm connections or direction. Just a vague condescending command. So insecurity is a by product of it.

 

The boredom part would likely be, despite the above...I am feeling kinda marginalized as an escort. Especially in a town where there aren't any or many. I'll just say it: I'm bored of escorting lol. Not the clients per say, but just bored. Atleast in the current locale. I kinda am feeling nostalgia of the employed life, especially when most people's social activities during the week revolve around hanging out with co workers.

 

I'm just tired of running a lone ship. Tired of not having any weeknight dining out with similar workgroups. Tired of not having anyone to talk to and discuss work...without it turning into a fucking questionnaire on my other career goals. Tired of feeling so different and unconventional to people . Tired of meeting fake friends because after all, if we don't work together, we have nothing in common.

[Moondance]

Being a flight attendant is a very demanding and difficult job that takes the patience of a saint while being on duty for long hours. The turn around can be killer...

But on the other hand, there are the adorable uniforms, like this ...

 

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or this (too red?) ...

 

 

or this (too green?) ...

 

 

or this (too milkman?) ...

 

 

or this (does Scotland have a national airline?) ...

 

[Moondance]

On a more serious note, a little more about the last image in my previous post...

 

The author of Plane Queer, Phil Tiemeyer, is a history professor at Kansas State University. This is from his faculty profile.

 

My work focuses on how gender and sexuality has interacted with other social forces, such as the legal system, workplace management practices, the labor movement, technological innovation, and the US’s growing global influence after World War II. My research has been enhanced by two in-residence fellowships at the Smithsonian National Air and Space Museum in Washington, DC.

 

My first book, Plane Queer: Labor, Sexuality, and AIDS in the History of Male Flight Attendants, examines how flight attendants in the US combated sexism and homophobia through the eight-decade expanse of the career. Focusing on men in this profession deepens understandings of how gender discrimination operates, foregrounds instances of anti-gay workplace discrimination, and highlights how advocacy for disability rights—especially involving workers with HIV/AIDS—has been central to America's civil rights legacy. Plane Queer won the 2015 John Boswell Prize for outstanding book in the field of LGBT history, awarded by the American Historical Association’s Committee on LGBT History.

 

And this from the University of California Press ...

 

In this vibrant new history, Phil Tiemeyer details the history of men working as flight attendants. Beginning with the founding of the profession in the late 1920s and continuing into the post-September 11 era, Plane Queer examines the history of men who joined workplaces customarily identified as female-oriented. It examines the various hardships these men faced at work, paying particular attention to the conflation of gender-based, sexuality-based, and AIDS-based discrimination. Tiemeyer also examines how this heavily gay-identified group of workers created an important place for gay men to come out, garner acceptance from their fellow workers, fight homophobia and AIDS phobia, and advocate for LGBT civil rights. All the while, male flight attendants facilitated key breakthroughs in gender-based civil rights law, including an important expansion of the ways that Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act would protect workers from sex discrimination. Throughout their history, men working as flight attendants helped evolve an industry often identified with American adventuring, technological innovation, and economic power into a queer space.

[marylander1940]

@Mocha

 

don't be offended but your new job might suddenly take you out of the closet! You can't remain in the DL if you're a flight attendant

 

[+ Robster]

LMAO, thank you for posting that. I love that episode, and that scene. "Lowenstein..."

 

Rob

[MikeBiDude]

LMAO, thank you for posting that. I love that episode, and that scene. "Lowenstein..."

 

Rob

+1 "Lowenstein..." crap maybe it's time to break out the DVD for the annual watching?!

[marylander1940]

LMAO, thank you for posting that. I love that episode, and that scene. "Lowenstein..."

 

Rob

 

I wonder if male flight attendants make 77cents on the dollar, LOL

 

"trail-blazer", I love it.

[coriolis888]

If this guy's an escort, could someone please PM me his info? Please??

 

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/CijWdT5WUAAtJGb.jpg

 

No PM but here is a little more about that flight attendant. Based on the seating shown in the background, he is on RyanAir, based in Ireland.

 

Here is a link to a little more about the guy plus a few of his co-workers:

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=ryanair+muscular+flight+attendant&safe=active&sa=X&biw=1344&bih=706&tbm=isch&imgil=f7zcEIECxmblyM%3A%3BVZrX5yxG3SlyEM%3Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.pinterest.com%252Fpin%252F333125703666157131%252F&source=iu&pf=m&fir=f7zcEIECxmblyM%3A%2CVZrX5yxG3SlyEM%2C_&usg=___H9CgbL9IpOm4DHX-l171W6R0Zg=&ved=0ahUKEwip0Iyd6YnSAhVT_WMKHXwzCyYQyjcIKw&ei=FfKfWOnxCNP6jwP85qywAg#imgrc=_

[LADoug1]

Thanks for the insight. A Facebook friend of mine recently became a flight attendant and posts his travels from American airlines. One trip being Brazil. I won't omit and say it makes me a little green and jelly...but at the same time I know FAKEbook is mostly illusion.

 

I know you travel quite a bit as well so you'd tell it like it is!

 

 

 

Actually not 100%. There's other options on the table...which would nearly be the same perks but not necessarily the fun of travel.

 

I feel the thought and trying to becoming a flight attendant would be more out of competition, insecurity and boredom on my part. Yes, to criticize myself harshly lol. But i say that out of understanding of the situation as is. I would resent to get into something for the wrong reasons. To be a flight attendant would be to get into the service industry. Like @Kevin Slater said, not to be haughty but not my cup of long island tea either.

 

The insecurity part comes because the people I've been surrounded by, have not been supportive in their words or actions. It's one thing for people to say they're okay with one being an escort. That's old school acceptance. It's 2017. Everybody is okay with someone being an escort. But when it comes down to actually encouraging that escort, believing in that escort, uplifting that escort...the average fucker is at a loss of words. Their solution is to just get another job. No alternatives, no firm connections or direction. Just a vague condescending command. So insecurity is a by product of it.

 

The boredom part would likely be, despite the above...I am feeling kinda marginalized as an escort. Especially in a town where there aren't any or many. I'll just say it: I'm bored of escorting lol. Not the clients per say, but just bored. Atleast in the current locale. I kinda am feeling nostalgia of the employed life, especially when most people's social activities during the week revolve around hanging out with co workers.

 

I'm just tired of running a lone ship. Tired of not having any weeknight dining out with similar workgroups. Tired of not having anyone to talk to and discuss work...without it turning into a fucking questionnaire on my other career goals. Tired of feeling so different and unconventional to people . Tired of meeting fake friends because after all, if we don't work together, we have nothing in common.

 

 

I really feel for you and your unhappiness. Consider changing careers.

[MscleLovr]

Over the years, I've known and dated 4 guys who worked as cabin crew flying internationally. All four also worked part-time as male escorts; two were discreet but the two youngest advertised and sent out their face pics.

 

All four were muscle-bottoms who liked being compliant and pleasing dominant tops. All four enjoyed bottoming, and three of the four were expert cocksuckers to completion. Those three are still flying: the two youngest guys are still in shape while the oldest has kept his superb physique and remains one of the best cocksuckers I've ever had.

[+ g56whiz]

Over the years, I've known and dated 4 guys who worked as cabin crew flying internationally. All four also worked part-time as male escorts; two were discreet but the two youngest advertised and sent out their face pics.

 

All four were muscle-bottoms who liked being compliant and pleasing dominant tops. All four enjoyed bottoming, and three of the four were expert cocksuckers to completion. Those three are still flying: the two youngest guys are still in shape while the oldest has kept his superb physique and remains one of the best cocksuckers I've ever had.

 

"And you're a frequent flyer on which airline?" he asked jealously.

[Mocha]

@Mocha

 

don't be offended but your new job might suddenly take you out of the closet! You can't remain in the DL if you're a flight attendant

 

Excuse me, but where did THAT come from? Lol. I'm not DL or in the closet. That's definitely generalizing. Hell...I'd be pulling guys INTO the closet if it's big enough to fuck in on the plane (womp, there goes that job)

[Mocha]

I really feel for you and your unhappiness. Consider changing careers.

 

Thankyou for your sympathy. Actually, since posting that a lot has changed. Not sure what I was thinking that night...but let me explain its definitely not the career that's boring! What I was referring to was the in between down time with escorting that can be boring, and the overall having to pretty much create your social life with things outside of work. But even that...can change based on location.

 

What I was really bored of was being an escort in Nashville. I left last week and it's been non stop fun. 2 good regulars of mine in different cities have been taking me to dinner and bakeries and boating and nice hotels...it's really been fun. Not to mention that travel oppurtunities. Which also open doors for other oppurtunities like meeting people outside the business. I honestly can't say if a flight attendant has more travel experience than I do lol. With the exception of international travel, I don't think flight attendants stay in one area long enough to do much more than a couple touristy things here and there. I actually get into the nitty gritty, meet the people, shop, etc. it's different when you have the time to do it versus a quick stop N go.

 

Also...I met my flight attendant friend down in Miami earlier this week. Disaster for all about 2 hours. And for whatever reason, he's so pushy about me becoming a flight attendant. After knowing this person for 5 years along with 2 other young Black gay flight attendants I've met over the years: To me they tend to have "personalities" that seem very self serving and almost sociopathic. I know everyone on the forum probably thinks I'm crazy and shouldn't judge...but it's true. I don't know what it is...but either they are sluts (while holding a relationship, and will even take your man too!), or they don't seem to value your time if you make any for them, or they just seem boring personality wise.

 

Now, I know that sounds prejudice...but from meeting 3 male flight attendants in 2 years...I can frankly say the next one I meet I'm going to run the other way. They may be great at their job, but suck at actually giving a fuck about anyone. My friend in Miami ditched me on Valentine's night to meet with a stranger whom he was attempting to cheat on his boyfriend with..whom also chose to ditch him. So because my friend didn't consult me as an escort who would have said he's a flake, we both became ditchees to this unscrupulous ditchor

[marylander1940]

Thankyou for your sympathy. Actually, since posting that a lot has changed. Not sure what I was thinking that night...but let me explain its definitely not the career that's boring! What I was referring to was the in between down time with escorting that can be boring, and the overall having to pretty much create your social life with things outside of work. But even that...can change based on location.

 

What I was really bored of was being an escort in Nashville. I left last week and it's been non stop fun. 2 good regulars of mine in different cities have been taking me to dinner and bakeries and boating and nice hotels...it's really been fun. Not to mention that travel oppurtunities. Which also open doors for other oppurtunities like meeting people outside the business. I honestly can't say if a flight attendant has more travel experience than I do lol. With the exception of international travel, I don't think flight attendants stay in one area long enough to do much more than a couple touristy things here and there. I actually get into the nitty gritty, meet the people, shop, etc. it's different when you have the time to do it versus a quick stop N go.

 

Also...I met my flight attendant friend down in Miami earlier this week. Disaster for all about 2 hours. And for whatever reason, he's so pushy about me becoming a flight attendant. After knowing this person for 5 years along with 2 other young Black gay flight attendants I've met over the years: To me they tend to have "personalities" that seem very self serving and almost sociopathic. I know everyone on the forum probably thinks I'm crazy and shouldn't judge...but it's true. I don't know what it is...but either they are sluts (while holding a relationship, and will even take your man too!), or they don't seem to value your time if you make any for them, or they just seem boring personality wise.

 

Now, I know that sounds prejudice...but from meeting 3 male flight attendants in 2 years...I can frankly say the next one I meet I'm going to run the other way. They may be great at their job, but suck at actually giving a fuck about anyone. My friend in Miami ditched me on Valentine's night to meet with a stranger whom he was attempting to cheat on his boyfriend with..whom also chose to ditch him. So because my friend didn't consult me as an escort who would have said he's a flake, we both became ditchees to this unscrupulous ditchor

 

We're glad to have you back escorting, and we hope you continue posting on here. Believe me... a flight attendant's career is tough and not as glamourous as it was in earlier years. Escorting is not only easier but more profitable!