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Perhaps it's about having a firm criteria for your communication model, such as if clients contact you in the wee hours, you will respond at the start of "human" hours. I feel that no matter what your profession is, it's up to you to maintain your own communication etiquette, which also reinforces the notion with the client about when you are contactable.

 

I know that in some of my initial contacts with escorts, it has been when I was browsing and horny, perhaps too eager to set something soon, and didn't get a response til the next day.p, if at all (which I also blame the sleepyboy messaging system). I now know from experience that it's best to hold off to make contact when it's daylight haha.

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I arise at about 5 am every morning and use the next two hours before leaving for work to handle emails and communications. I may be busy at a time that is convenient to you but I am looking for a response from you at your chosen time. In all reality what is the difference between and text and email? They are both forms of communication and don't require immediate response.

You are ALWAYS so negative about business and the chip on your shoulder makes you look like Igor from Young Frankenstein.

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3 clients on Saturday. Sounds great right? Well 2 texted me at 6 am. 6 am, on a Saturday morning. One cancelled, the other flaked. 1 had conversed the night before, and I specifically told him the time frame I'd be in touch. Why he texts me at 6 am to ask what time I'd want to meet? The other contacts me after midnight. On a Saturday. I'm sitting here just not wanting to see the person because it's too late. Even if it wasn't too late, I'd be at a nightclub with friends or dancing like normal people do

 

I'm sure everyone here is smart enough to know better, but why people think it's acceptable to contact a man of the EVENING slightly before dawn instead of normal human hours is a really annoying thing.

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I arise at about 5 am every morning and use the next two hours before leaving for work to handle emails and communications. I may be busy at a time that is convenient to you but I am looking for a response from you at your chosen time. In all reality what is the difference between and text and email? They are both forms of communication and don't require immediate response.

You are ALWAYS so negative about business and the chip on your shoulder makes you look like Igor from Young Frankenstein.

 

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Unfortunately clients contact you when they are horny and don't want to wait.

 

 

I dont think Mocha realizes HE'S AN ESCORT, and is expected to be at the beck and call of horny clients. IF he doesnt want that to happen, he should clearly state in his marketing

"DONT CALL OR TEXT ME WHEN I AM SLEEPING, BUSY, OR UNINTERESTED IN YOUR BUSINESS....BASICALLY, FUCK OFF CLIENTS !"

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Hey guys, mocha seems to be just venting. I don't know mocha personally and what support group he has at home. Maybe he needs an online support group that he can vent and talk to. Maybe his choice of words can be more frank than others would use but I totally can see his frustration.

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Unfortunately clients contact you when they are horny and don't want to wait.

 

Sounds good in theory, but these were not immediate response bookings. I could see if they showed up. I could see if they called the night before and gave some notice of an early visit. But, neither of those were the case. Case in point:

 

After this thread, I woke up early today, Sunday. 7:15 my alarm was set because I wanted to, Someone texted me 4 times before I went to bed. Saying they wanted something the next morning. When I woke to see the message, I tried to set it up for him right away. He called twice, then cancels saying family ruined his plans. Then books for noon in the same message. Still didn't show up.

 

I'm sorry that the debates, BLM and many other current political issues are causing men to be angry and disrespectful and take their frustrations out on escorts...and even sales people in general, as it seems. I've never had to deal with such rude disrespectful behavior from random callers as much as these last few months in the business. And y'all aren't going to perpetuate it on here.

 

Whoever keeps bringing up the lube story is so outdated. But I'll address once and for all. I haven't had to buy lube in almost 2 years. I have 2 gallon containers of water base and silicon lube that is barely halfway thru.

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Hey guys, mocha seems to be just venting. I don't know mocha personally and what support group he has at home. Maybe he needs an online support group that he can vent and talk to. Maybe his choice of words can be more frank than others would use but I totally can see his frustration.

 

Thanks Hunter. I'd hate for you to get caught in the cross. But I'll stick up for any escort who finds themselves under pressure from the daddy gang bang.

 

Most of these guys are bullies...the friendly kind. Same thing how boys pick on the guys they want to fuck. So I'm really not faded by the remarks. They all want what they can't have. So the way degenerates like jjkirkwood copes, is to denigrate and intimidate.

 

I have a great support group in real life. I don't have a lot of escort friends except JD, but all my non-escort friends support me. They all think I deserve better and most these guys can be assholes.

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Hey guys, mocha seems to be just venting. I don't know mocha personally and what support group he has at home. Maybe he needs an online support group that he can vent and talk to. Maybe his choice of words can be more frank than others would use but I totally can see his frustration.

 

What else is New ???? He's ALWAYS venting, usually about those people that pay his rent and put food on his table. Sometimes it's wise to just keep your mouth shut !

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Hey guys, mocha seems to be just venting. I don't know mocha personally and what support group he has at home. Maybe he needs an online support group that he can vent and talk to. Maybe his choice of words can be more frank than others would use but I totally can see his frustration.

 

Hey @hunterlee you raise a valid point but there's a lot of history here you're not familiar or have knowledge about. The OP has bitched and complained about the same issues ad infinitum for years. Under no less than three usernames - Joey Bryant, Jamal, and this current incarnation Mocha. A search will bring up all these broken record posts bitching and complaining about the same issues over, and over again. Those of us who have tolerated this narcissistic BS call him out on this crap for a myriad of reasons. I will give Joey-Jamal-Mocha credit that he at least gives as good as he gets back and expresses his POV without hesitation.

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Hey @hunterlee you raise a valid point but there's a lot of history here you're not familiar or have knowledge about. The OP has bitched and complained about the same issues ad infinitum for years. Under no less than three usernames - Joey Bryant, Jamal, and this current incarnation Mocha. A search will bring up all these broken record posts bitching and complaining about the same issues over, and over again. Those of us who have tolerated this narcissistic BS call him out on this crap for a myriad of reasons. I will give Joey-Jamal-Mocha credit that he at least gives as good as he gets back and expresses his POV without hesitation.

 

Donald Trump does the same, and look where it's gonna get him ! Once he loses, I hope people will see him for the clown and buffoon he is...

 

Even if there was NO history here, does it make any sense for an Escort to go on an escort website and continually criticize the behavior of the people that could potentially hire him ? That alone proves the guy is a fool, and really doesn't care about his success in the profession. I really hope Mocha/Jamahl/Joey has a Plan B ?

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Hey @hunterlee you raise a valid point but there's a lot of history here you're not familiar or have knowledge about. The OP has bitched and complained about the same issues ad infinitum for years. Under no less than three usernames - Joey Bryant, Jamal, and this current incarnation Mocha. A search will bring up all these broken record posts bitching and complaining about the same issues over, and over again. Those of us who have tolerated this narcissistic BS call him out on this crap for a myriad of reasons. I will give Joey-Jamal-Mocha credit that he at least gives as good as he gets back and expresses his POV without hesitation.

Wow! Good detective skills!!

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Hey @hunterlee you raise a valid point but there's a lot of history here you're not familiar or have knowledge about. The OP has bitched and complained about the same issues ad infinitum for years. Under no less than three usernames - Joey Bryant, Jamal, and this current incarnation Mocha. A search will bring up all these broken record posts bitching and complaining about the same issues over, and over again. Those of us who have tolerated this narcissistic BS call him out on this crap for a myriad of reasons. I will give Joey-Jamal-Mocha credit that he at least gives as good as he gets back and expresses his POV without hesitation.

 

You forgot the original incarnation RianB (circa Jan 2009). So it's been almost 8 years of the same old complaints. BTW, Mocha is the third incarnation, not the fourth (Jamal).

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3 clients on Saturday. Sounds great right? Well 2 texted me at 6 am. 6 am, on a Saturday morning. One cancelled, the other flaked. 1 had conversed the night before, and I specifically told him the time frame I'd be in touch. Why he texts me at 6 am to ask what time I'd want to meet? The other contacts me after midnight. On a Saturday. I'm sitting here just not wanting to see the person because it's too late. Even if it wasn't too late, I'd be at a nightclub with friends or dancing like normal people do

 

I'm sure everyone here is smart enough to know better, but why people think it's acceptable to contact a man of the EVENING slightly before dawn instead of normal human hours is a really annoying thing.

 

You do have a tendency to assume that everyone communicates the same way. Even in my small circle of friends, family, and acquaintances there is a lot of variation. I know a few people who, for example, who still live and die by e-mail and treat texts as emergencies. As @DR FREUD noted, some people start the day by catching up on communication and initiating the contact that will help them to plan their days. When I look at an escort ad for a gym built guy I might imagine that he's really disciplined and is up early every day for a workout or a run. I might imagine that his day is structured by a day job or class schedule. Conversely I might imagine that his days and weekends are unpredictable, with midday workouts and odd times to sleep and wake dictated by the randomness of client requests. The people who contact you don't know your life. Back in the days when I was contacting a lot of escorts I found that they did not have uniform schedules. Call one guy at 11am on Saturday and he's been up and out for hours living his life. Leave another guy a message and he'll get back to you at 1am asking if you want to meet up soon.

 

I don't see 6am texts as a problem. I agree with @slightly that you set your hours based on when you choose to respond. Here are three profiles for guys who might text an escort at 6am. I'm sure there are dozens more:

 

  • He has an 8-5 job, so he gets up 5-6am daily for his morning routine which might include breakfast, a workout, TV, personal e-mail and social media, and anything else he starts his day with before heading off to work. He's a creature of habit, so his routine doesn't vary much on the weekends.
  • He's been up all night on Grindr, A4A, or Craigslist trying to hook up. Nothing's come of it so now it's 6am and he's about to crash. He's decided he's gonna contact an escort so he can salvage the night by having some opportunity to look forward to.
  • He's been eyeing your ad for weeks, fantasizing about you, and trying to work up the nerve to take the plunge. He's so obsessed with the idea that he has no concept of time. He might have contacted you at 5pm on a Thursday if that's when he finally found some initiative.

The real issue is the canceling and flaking, IMO.

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You do have a tendency to assume that everyone communicates the same way. Even in my small circle of friends, family, and acquaintances there is a lot of variation. I know a few people who, for example, who still live and die by e-mail and treat texts as emergencies. As @DR FREUD noted, some people start the day by catching up on communication and initiating the contact that will help them to plan their days. When I look at an escort ad for a gym built guy I might imagine that he's really disciplined and is up early every day for a workout or a run. I might imagine that his day is structured by a day job or class schedule. Conversely I might imagine that his days and weekends are unpredictable, with midday workouts and odd times to sleep and wake dictated by the randomness of client requests. The people who contact you don't know your life. Back in the days when I was contacting a lot of escorts I found that they did not have uniform schedules. Call one guy at 11am on Saturday and he's been up and out for hours living his life. Leave another guy a message and he'll get back to you at 1am asking if you want to meet up soon.

 

I don't see 6am texts as a problem. I agree with @slightly that you set your hours based on when you choose to respond. Here are three profiles for guys who might text an escort at 6am. I'm sure there are dozens more:

 

  • He has an 8-5 job, so he gets up 5-6am daily for his morning routine which might include breakfast, a workout, TV, personal e-mail and social media, and anything else he starts his day with before heading off to work. He's a creature of habit, so his routine doesn't vary much on the weekends.
  • He's been up all night on Grindr, A4A, or Craigslist trying to hook up. Nothing's come of it so now it's 6am and he's about to crash. He's decided he's gonna contact an escort so he can salvage the night by having some opportunity to look forward to.
  • He's been eyeing your ad for weeks, fantasizing about you, and trying to work up the nerve to take the plunge. He's so obsessed with the idea that he has no concept of time. He might have contacted you at 5pm on a Thursday if that's when he finally found some initiative.

The real issue is the canceling and flaking, IMO.

 

 

I don't understand why everyone is trying to rationalize with an IRRATIONAL person ? No matter what you will say to Mocha, it will be dismissed. Bottom line: EVERY / ANY job comes with its pros and cons. To be successful, you need to be open and able to deal with them. As we have clearly seen here, Mocha's YEARS of complaining about these things hasn't resolved anything for him. But I suppose if we are open to listen to him complain, HE WILL COMPLAIN......

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