Last Minute Cash Upfront Requests.

[+ nycman]

In the past month I've had 2 guys wait until 30 minutes before our meeting to text me:

 

"Just so you know I like to get the money upfront and out of the way"

 

Both times it was after a day or two of planning and texting back and forth.

 

Both times there had been no previous mention of "money upfront"

 

Both times I politely texted back "That's never going to happen".

 

Both times they proceeded to lecture me on "This is the way it works".

 

Both times I just laughed and said "Thanks but no thanks" and "Goodbye".

 

Not really bitching, just want to make sure the Newbies know that it's smart

to say "Goodbye" and stand firm when an escort starts asking for the money

upfront.

 

Nonetheless, I once had a guy request his payment upfront as we were getting

undressed. I started to put my pants back on and escort him to the door to say

"Goodbye". He changed his tune and his attitude 180 degrees....and we had

an amazing time together. I paid him when we were finished and everyone was

happy. So it can work out...just don't give in to temptation.

[MscleLovr]

Excellent advice for newbies! When I hired for the 2nd time in my life (about 16 years ago) a well-reviewed escort pulled that trick on me. Being 'green' I gave him the agreed amount...only to find that he had forgotten I'm a top only and he wanted me to bottom and suck him off. I cut short that date, tho the escort advertised for many years afterwards.

 

Since then, it's happened to me once, about 4 years ago. My reaction was to smile, point out that in my email I'd asked if there was anything he needed me to get or do for our date to go well, and he hadn't mentioned 'cash upfront' then. When he persisted, I said I'm sorry that you are leaving then...and he changed his view and decided to stay.

[Tonyko]

Handing a scort the money up front (for an outcall, him to you) is often about the same as leaving the money outside you door and saying just come and take it and leave :-) I TOTS get that many scorts have been burned and I sympathize, but c'mon, when HE is in a CLIENTS home or room he (the scort) has all the power, he can make a scene, refuse to leave, take something of value and run, etc etc. I "can" understand a little better a scort who has been burned by unscrupulous clients feeling a need to ask for it up front when HE'S in his own home, but when they walk into our place and ask for their money while their coat is still on lol, they HAVE to know what we're thinking and must know the answer's gonna be "nope".

[+ bashful]

Thank you for reinforcing "never give the money upfront". I've been fortunate it has never happened to me. I've only done in-calls, and this gives me even more confidence to get out of there if it ever were to happen.

[ncc1701d]

I've also had massage guys asking the same now, and it's the first time in years. Maybe it's a new trend in light of RB???

[MikeyGMin]

Agree wholeheartedly. The one time - - when I was a newbie - - that I gave the guy the money up front it was a complete disaster. I think the quality guys know it is the mark of a hustler and would never lower themselves.

 

I did have one guy very sweetly say, "You don't have to give it to me but I need to know you actually have the money." He had recently been ripped off and was gun shy. Once I flashed the cash, he relaxed and we had a great time.

[+ dutchmuch]

And have another view of the '30 minute out' text.

 

"Cassidy" who advertises on MassageM4M(?) texted me 30 minutes out that his listed fee on the site was not correct, it was $50 more.

 

I sent regrets.

[Despardo]

I have been asked for money up front at the beginning of a session twice recently. Both escorts were totally satisfactory--in fact they were terrific and thoroughly professional. I think both just thought that was standard procedure (no ulterior motives) and indeed it always used to be back in the day. I really don't consider it a big deal and don't care one way or the other. Costs me the same, although if things went particularly well, I am more likely to tip when paying at the end of the visit. I have never paid less than the agreed upon rate regardless how I felt about the encounter, so it is all the same to me.

[Despardo]

I've also had massage guys asking the same now, and it's the first time in years. Maybe it's a new trend in light of RB???

On the other hand, I have had escorts say that they feel less vulnerable to entrapment if they take the money afterwards. The exchange of money up front is perfect for an undercover cop. And, I have had escorts tell be about being seriously stiffed (not in a good way) by clients in the past.

[+ bashful]

Costs me the same, although if things went particularly well, I am more likely to tip when paying at the end of the visit.

 

Sort of analogous to paying for your meal before, or after served. You never tip at McDonalds, or Panera because you pay beforehand. But at better restaurants, you pay afterwards, with a tip added based on how you perceived service was provided.

[KJJ]

On the other hand, I have had escorts say that they feel less vulnerable to entrapment if they take the money afterwards. The exchange of money up front is perfect for an undercover cop.

 

I was having this same thought from a client perspective. If the escorts are well reviewed tho, especially from all you fine gentlemen, I might be more open to it. Would you leave the tipping for after the session?

[+ azdr0710]

ALL NEWBIES should read all of the above practical comments.....

 

when meeting a new guy, I always say well ahead of the meet that I will be paying at the END of the meeting and that I do not want to talk money at all during the meet....and I ask him if that'll be OK....

 

one guy did ask me for the money upfront when we met in the room and I very definitely told him no, that I'm honest, that I'll pay at the end, and all will be well....he sheepishly agreed and all was well.....

 

communicate ahead of time!!

[LADoug1]

I had a masseur who I had seen a few times and always paid afterward then ask for the money up-front the next appointment. I was taken aback. Turns out he was joking. I didn't think it was funny at all.

[mike carey]

I had a masseur who I had seen a few times and always paid afterward then ask for the money up-front the next appointment. I was taken aback. Turns out he was joking. I didn't think it was funny at all.

I agree in most circumstances it would not be funny, but if he had seen you railing against the practice in here, then is would be funny in a way! The trick would be how he carried it off!

[wayout]

I respect all the above approaches with regard to the client's desire to pay before or afterwards. Everyone has their comfort level and hopefully it can work out for both parties.

 

Usually the client just leaves the money on a table where its visible when i get there and I pick it up after the session is over

 

My approach, that has worked for me (so far), is similar to this. I let the escort know beforehand that it will be on the table and he can take it at the end or if he prefers (perhaps because of some concern about entrapment), I won't put it out and just give it to him at the end...his choice. I've done this most every time over the last five or more years and it has worked well for me. For what it is worth, about 2/3 say to give it to them at the end. For the others, as I said, it has worked out fine and without any problems. I do understand it has some risk to it but it is something I am willing to take. However, I only do this for one hour meetups as that controls and limits my potential loss. I will pay for longer appointments (evenings and overnights) at the end only.

[MikeyGMin]

approach, that has worked for me (so far), is similar to this. I let the escort know beforehand that it will be on the table and he can take it at the end or if he prefers (perhaps because of some concern about entrapment), I won't put it out and just give it to him at the end...his choice. I've done this most every time over the last five or more years and it has worked well for me. For what it is worth, about 2/3 say to give it to them at the end. For the others, as I said, it has worked out fine and without any problems. I do understand it has some risk to it but it is something I am willing to take. However, I only do this for one hour meetups as that controls and limits my potential loss. I will pay for longer appointments (evenings and overnights) at the end only.

 

I do something similar. I'm very WASPy when it comes to money and don't like to hand cash to someone. This includes my cleaning lady or anyone else who I pay in cash that isn't behind a counter. It's always in an envelope on a dresser in the bedroom. I point it out to the guy when we move to that room and I've never had anyone go over and grab it right away. For me, this has the added benefit that I never have to talk about money again with a regular.

[mike carey]

I've had mixed experiences, even with the same escorts. Sometimes up front, sometimes at the end. One escort it was up front the first time then at the end for a while and up front at a later meeting. Random. My latest experience was no discussion of money at all (terms had been set in e-mails) and then, 'Is this [envelope] for me?' as we left the hotel room to go for breakfast. I appreciate that others have had negative experiences from companions who want the money before they start but that has not yet been my experience.

[+ DERRIK]

Hmmm how about asking for it up front AND at the end? Double dipping.

[+ SundayZip]

Only once have I been asked by an escort to pay up front and that turned out to be a huge mistake. The first thing I noticed when he walked into my hotel room was that he looked somewhat different than his online pictures. But I figured he was having a bad hair day. I gave him the money as requested but it didn't take long for me to realize that he was not the guy pictured in his online ad -- either that or the pictures were a decade old. Not only that, but was clearly uninterested in being there. But my money was already in his pocket and it stayed there when I sent him on his way, less then 15 minutes after he had arrived. My money now stays in an envelope inside a drawer until our date is done. I have yet to encounter another escort that has had a problem with his.

[gallahadesquire]

I had a masseur [with benefits] ask for payment at the end of the session. Fine. It was done with his SQUARE bill paying swipe device. H pointed out that I could choose 10%, 15%, or 20% for a tip. This was an incall. I think that was the last time I saw him.

[gallahadesquire]

I do something similar. I'm very WASPy when it comes to money and don't like to hand cash to someone. This includes my cleaning lady or anyone else who I pay in cash that isn't behind a counter. It's always in an envelope on a dresser in the bedroom. I point it out to the guy when we move to that room and I've never had anyone go over and grab it right away. For me, this has the added benefit that I never have to talk about money again with a regular.

 

Is that what it is? WASPy? I do the same thing. In that way, money never changes hands. I did that to a law-related escort, who giggled at me when I said it. That was worth it!

[killianjamesnyc]

Any new client who walks into my apartment/hotel room 10PM and after pays upfront. Having that "unknown" factor of getting jipped out of the way makes for a more enjoyable time. I'm much more comfortable and in turn much more giving and a better time. It's all about setting terms and expectations. Escorts: be honest about what you're willing and able to do. Clients: try not to be shadey. If you're nervous then say so. Nervous sometimes can come off the wrong way. It's all about approach: "Hey man, I'm more than happy to see you late night at my place, but since it's in my home and it IS usually after the time I see people here, I'd like to see the payment when you arrive." Some of you may be shocked BUT when an escort has been proven 99% of clients have no issue with this.

[+ bashful]

Having that "unknown" factor of getting jipped out of the way makes for a more enjoyable time.

 

My inclination is it would make for a less enjoyable time. If it were to happen, I think I'd feel prejudged as untrustworthy, thus less likely to enjoy myself, or enjoy my companion. But then again, I only know the client me, while escorts see all types.

[killianjamesnyc]

My inclination is it would make for a less enjoyable time. If it were to happen, I think I'd feel prejudged as untrustworthy, thus less likely to enjoy myself, or enjoy my companion. But then again, I only know the client me, while escorts see all types.

 

I know how this may come across BUT in the end you have to treat everyone with a little wall up until there is mutual trust and respect established. That's why I say "let me see it" AKA pay upfront in a way, as opposed to "hand it over". By all means keep it in your wallet until we're done. I've said this a million times, operating like this will lose some client interest but you will deal with zero BS, establish an amazing clientele and form relationships beyond the pump and dump experience.

[+ bashful]

I know how this may come across BUT in the end you have to treat everyone with a little wall up until there is mutual trust and respect established. That's why I say "let me see it" as opposed to "hand it over". By all means keep it in your wallet until we're done. I've said this a million times, operating like this will lose some client interest but you will deal with zero BS, establish an amazing clientele and form relationships beyond the pump and dump experience.

 

Trust me, I get it. It's your life, and your livelihood you must protect. I for one am not looking for the pump and dump experience. That makes trust and comfort my first hurdle. I've approached each of my limited number of meetings as an opportunity of establishing some sort of rapport, and if they go well, hopefully we'll see each other in the future.