Last Minute Cash Upfront Requests.

[gwguy]

I've never been asked for money upfront. I have been asked to show the money after the "get to know you" chatting and before play started. I do admit that it made me uncomfortable being asked to show the money.

[jackjackjack]

I know how this may come across BUT in the end you have to treat everyone with a little wall up until there is mutual trust and respect established. That's why I say "let me see it" AKA pay upfront in a way, as opposed to "hand it over". By all means keep it in your wallet until we're done. I've said this a million times, operating like this will lose some client interest but you will deal with zero BS, establish an amazing clientele and form relationships beyond the pump and dump experience.

 

Killian, I know you're very successful in the business, so just take my comment with a grain of pepper, but if after arranging a meeting. (since I travel a bit and have to arrange at least a couple days in advance), and sharing some of my likes and dislikes with an escort, and he walked in and the first thing he said was "let me see it", he would be sooo out the door. That would be the biggest turn off ever..... even bigger than if he was a one-eyed cyclopse....with bad breath.

BUT, let me revise my post...saying, yes, last minute late night, ask for money upfront, perfectly appropriate.

[killianjamesnyc]

Absolutely, a professional would always let you know the deal upfront before you got there much like in my quotes as an example of what someone could say. Remember we're talking about late night, not 5pm. The freaks come out at night, in the worst or the best way, woof daddy.

[+ Truereview]

I'm totally supportive of @killianjamesnyc approach. he is a business owner and he should have the right to set house rules however he wants. Also, personally, I'm with @bashful - the minute I feel I'm not trusted, I'm out the door. Right now, IMO, the escort market is good enough whereby I can pretty much find anyone to my liking without the hassle of feeling like I'm a flake or a freak. I'm 150% sure, Killian and other honest, top-notch providers out there with similar house rules can also find clients who will be willing to play by such rules. Love a free market!

 

That reminds me, I'm gonna go book a week in the Caribbean with a hot guy - hope he doesn't ask for my incum statement!

[Kuriousity]

I never charge Upfront Locally. However If I am Traveling I now require It. I once met a guy(Whom was Hot and thought he "Shouldnt have to Pay for it" his words Verbatim) Almost 6 Hours....One Way. Of course he Told me this AFTER I was there and AFTER I spent an Entire Evening/Overnight with Him. Turns out after me Flipping my shit(Yes I was rightfully Pissed...I dont care, Dont ever Waste my Time) He was just "Curious" and really Didnt have the money afterall....Never again.

 

Always cover your own ass in the end.

[Kuriousity]

I never charge Upfront Locally. However If I am Traveling I now require It. I once met a guy(Whom was Hot and thought he "Shouldnt have to Pay for it" his words Verbatim) Almost 6 Hours....One Way. Of course he Told me this AFTER I was there and AFTER I spent an Entire Evening/Overnight with Him. Turns out after me Flipping my shit(Yes I was rightfully Pissed...I dont care, Dont ever Waste my Time) He was just "Curious" and really Didnt have the money afterall....Never again.

 

In a situation like that, that would be the instance where I would support an escort pulling an A.W. and doing a Twitter blast, and I say that because of the travel time.....no fucking excuse for that.

[+ deej]

I know how this may come across BUT in the end you have to treat everyone with a little wall up until there is mutual trust and respect established. That's why I say "let me see it" AKA pay upfront in a way, as opposed to "hand it over". By all means keep it in your wallet until we're done. I've said this a million times, operating like this will lose some client interest but you will deal with zero BS, establish an amazing clientele and form relationships beyond the pump and dump experience.

 

I agree with this, particularly for the late night first time bookings. Or any first time bookings, really.

 

One of my very favorite escorts told me in advance he always asks first-time clients to show him the money up front. Not GIVE him the money, but show him the money. He explained the times he's been stiffed were when he skipped this step.

 

He asked to see it so I whipped it out and laid it on the table. (The CASH, people!) He turned, dropped trousers, and showed me an ass that justified tighty whites while walking to the bed. It was the first of many meetings.

 

Both sides of the transaction need to establish their bonafides. I'll do my part.

[mike carey]

It seems that this is all a matter of trust, and for @killianjamesnyc 10pm is different to 5pm in the trust quotient, whether we like it or not. I suspect that any of us discussing the issue here, regardless of our normal view of when to pay, in a hypothetical 10pm appointment with Killian would accept his payment rules and pay up first. Who knows, having had this conversation his level of trust at such a meeting may have changed.

[Kuriousity]

This is why I think "the business" should be decriminalized. If it were legal, service providers would hopefully have recourse against bookers like this one.

[Marlfox]

Before I hired, I thought it was the done thing to pay on arrival. Also, although I knew his hourly rate, we hadn't discussed what he would charge for the two hours that I'd hired him for. So, on arrival I got out my wallet and asked him how much I owed him. He gave me a figure which was less than two times his hourly rate, which I paid. He laughed and said he was going to leave it till the end and then ask what I thought he was worth. Probably just as well for him that he didn't because he fell asleep before the main event.

[Kuriousity]

Before I hired, I thought it was the done thing to pay on arrival. Also, although I knew his hourly rate, we hadn't discussed what he would charge for the two hours that I'd hired him for. So, on arrival I got out my wallet and asked him how much I owed him. He gave me a figure which was less than two times his hourly rate, which I paid. He laughed and said he was going to leave it till the end and then ask what I thought he was worth. Probably just as well for him that he didn't because he fell asleep before the main event.

 

Forgive me, but I laughed at the part where he fell asleep.....

[Marlfox]

Don't worry, I laugh now as well.

[+ nycman]

Ok, for the record...

 

If a well known and well reviewed escort like Killian James asked me to "show" the money upfront, I wouldn't have any problem doing that.

In fact, I'm pretty sure I have done exactly that on a few occasions. Can't say I liked doing it, but I figured (correctly) that the risk was minimal.

 

The guys I talked about above are unreviewed and unknowns. I love being the guy that gives a new guy a chance. I've found many diamonds in

rough that way...and plenty of duds. Nonetheless when you play that game you have to take certain precautions....like not paying up front.

 

Funny side note on developing "trust" at the beginning of an encounter:

 

I once hired a very well known escort who was visiting NYC. This was several years ago and I was fairly young and had a military style haircut.

When the escort arrived he was clearly disturbed by my age and look. In fact, he became quite paranoid that I was a cop and that the entire

meeting was a sting operation. I tried in vain to calm him down and reassure him, but I quickly learned that telling someone "I'm NOT a COP!"

doesn't reassure them at all...lol

 

Anyways, he finally says, "I have to go, I'm just too nervous". Figuring I have nothing to lose at this point, I quickly unbutton his fly and yank

his pants and jock down to around his ankles. At the same time I get on my knees in front of him and put his soft cock in my mouth. With his

dick in my mouth I look up and say "still think I'm a cop?". He starts laughing hysterically and say "dude....we're gonna have a FUN time together!"

 

And we did.

[Kuriousity]

Ok, for the record...

 

If a well known and well reviewed escort like Killian James asked me to "show" the money upfront, I wouldn't have any problem doing that.

In fact, I'm pretty sure I have done exactly that on a few occasions. Can't say I liked doing it, but I figured (correctly) that the risk was minimal.

 

The guys I talked about above are unreviewed and unknowns. I love being the guy that gives a new guy a chance. I've found many diamonds in

rough that way...and plenty of duds. Nonetheless when you play that game you have to take certain precautions....like not paying up front.

 

Funny side note on developing "trust" at the beginning of an encounter:

 

I once hired a very well known escort who was visiting NYC. This was several years ago and I was fairly young and had a military style haircut.

When the escort arrived he was clearly disturbed by my age and look. In fact, he became quite paranoid that I was a cop and that the entire

meeting was a sting operation. I tried in vain to calm him down and reassure him, but I quickly learned that telling someone "I'm NOT a COP!"

doesn't reassure them at all...lol

 

Anyways, he finally say "I have to go, I'm just too nervous". Figuring I have nothing to lose at this point, I quickly unbutton his fly and yank

his pants and jock down to around his ankles. At the same time I get on my knees in front of him and put his soft cock in my mouth. With his

dick in my mouth I look up and say "still think I'm a cop?". He starts laughing hysterically and say "dude....we're gonna have a FUN time together!"

 

And we did.

 

 

Shame on you--Never talk with your mouth full

 

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[ncc1701d]

I had a masseur [with benefits] ask for payment at the end of the session. Fine. It was done with his SQUARE bill paying swipe device. H pointed out that I could choose 10%, 15%, or 20% for a tip. This was an incall. I think that was the last time I saw him.

 

There is also a square for no tip ;-) ;-)!!!

[Jock123]

Figuring I have nothing to lose at this point, I quickly unbutton his fly and yank

his pants and jock down to around his ankles. At the same time I get on my knees in front of him and put his soft cock in my mouth. With his

dick in my mouth I look up and say "still think I'm a cop?".

 

 

[gwguy]

Before I hired, I thought it was the done thing to pay on arrival. Also, although I knew his hourly rate, we hadn't discussed what he would charge for the two hours that I'd hired him for. So, on arrival I got out my wallet and asked him how much I owed him. He gave me a figure which was less than two times his hourly rate, which I paid. He laughed and said he was going to leave it till the end and then ask what I thought he was worth. Probably just as well for him that he didn't because he fell asleep before the main event.

 

Can I ask... Was this with an escort that is based in Las Vegas? I had someone go to sleep on me too once....

[Marlfox]

No, it happened in Perth, West Australia. How'd it make you feel? Made me feel like a sex kitten.

[+ Truereview]

Can I ask... Was this with an escort that is based in Las Vegas? I had someone go to sleep on me too once....

 

No, it happened in Perth, West Australia. How'd it make you feel? Made me feel like a sex kitten.

Sleeping on the job is global phenomenon ...hopefully their mouth was not full?

[curiousnomore]

This may be me, and only me, but once we've agreed on his rate/time, I have it discretely contained in an open location.

[curiousnomore]

NEVER a problem with me. I prefer cash.

[beachboy]

I have no problem paying up front-I'm paying for his time & good, bad or indifferent he's gonna get the agreed amount & having got that out of the way I can focus on having a good time. However if I'm a regular leaving it to the end is a sign of trust & does enhance the feeling of connection which makes the experience that bit more personal ( without crossing any lines of emotional entanglement). If the escort provides the hot mind blowing session I'm looking for I' ll leave with that euphoric feeling & will likely cum back for more!

[notforme]

funnily, this just happened to me about 20 minutes ago. after talking for two days in setting up this appointment, the escort texted me that the fee was to be up front ($20 more then quoted). I texted back we aren't the right fit. I just too poor and tired of being scammed in DC. it weird to find this thread.

[kjun]

I have been asked for money up front at the beginning of a session twice recently. Both escorts were totally satisfactory--in fact they were terrific and thoroughly professional. I think both just thought that was standard procedure (no ulterior motives) and indeed it always used to be back in the day.

I have no idea what you mean by "back in the day." but I have never been asked for money up front and would do what some posters have said and say: No thanks!

[Despardo]

I have no idea what you mean by "back in the day." but I have never been asked for money up front and would do what some posters have said and say: No thanks!

In the 1970s the mantra was, "payment up front, cash only."